Lost: Staffordshire Bull Terrier In South East (ME1)

  • Dog ID 10276
  • Status Lost
  • Registered 26 Jul 2007
  • Name SCRAPPY
  • Gender & Breed Staffordshire Bull Terrier
  • Age Adult
  • Colour
  • Marks & Scars
  • Tagged Unknown
  • Microchipped Unknown
  • Tattooed Unknown
  • Date Lost 26 Jul 2007
  • Where Lost North London
  • Lost In Region South East
  • Lost In Post Area ME1
  • Date Reunited
  • Other Info
  • Listed By Jayne - Founder Doglost.
  • Views 1861
  • SCRAPPYPoster Image
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Sightings and Information

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PaulaK
Will have Scrappys poster on Doglost stand at Byfleet Farmers market again tomorrow xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
just to update on scrappy the police have rang they have got the boy he was in court last week he has gone not guilty to stealing scrapps hes back in court on the 11 dec if he still goes not guilty it will be a proper court case were witness will be called other than thatg ive heard nothink on scrapps wereabouts Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Sally Nicholson-Fisher
any news?Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
hi just to update everyone on scrappy no news im afraid the police rang again last week the boy has run away again he still not been found yet to attend hes bail so hes classed as wanted and missing the car wash the met has informed me it does not exist so tyhe poloice our out of leads thank u again for everyone whos still looking for scrapps xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
PaulaK
will have scrappys poster at Farmers Market in Byfleet this SaturdayLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
No kmore news since last posting from Nik. i think the young man in question did not turn up for his bail- hence her last posting about the police as still waiting to hear whether they will prosecute. I have left a message for Nik to update but as its half term she may be away. CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
any updates on this fella x x xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Patsy
On Friday, I went to Battersea Dogs Home, London Branch, to check for any of our local missing dogs. (I live in Surrey). The staff v. kindly took me all round the holding kennels behind the scenes where all new arrivals, those being assessed etc are kept. So very many staffies and quite a few white ones. It is worth checking at Battersea in person regularly, or asking a friend who know Scrappy to do so for you. I know he is chipped and Battersea staff are v. efficient - but mistakes do happen. Do hope you have good news soon. PxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostGlynafon
know this is unauthodox but tonight has been found running around in our street a white bull terrior. it has no collor and we cant catch it. the police and rspca have been informed but please if you know this dog or know antone around the kings road, gorleston area who has one, please make sure there dog is there. thankyou for talking the time to read this. you can also knock at 67 kings road as she is the lasdy who found him. thankyou http://www.dogpages.org.uk/forums/index.php?s=7ac473ad8ddc8b6c214285da3de90017&showtopic=153764Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
hi went onto the web site neither of them was scrappy thank you anyway still no news from the police im losing hope in getting him back know take carfe scrapps were ever u are missing u loads xxxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostGlynafon
There appear to be two white Staffies on www.rainrescue.co.uk (look down right hand side of page for WORKSOP dogs, no details shown, just photos. Tel NO. 01909 731792Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
scrappy i have got your poster up in work and i will not take it down untill you are home and safe x x show your self boy x Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
cattern
return home soon scrappy,hope that lad gets all he deserves for taking you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostGlynafon
Nicky, Ive sent you a pmLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Jan Hyams
Ok, I have done a follow up phone call to the man who left the message about seeing a white SBT near Sleaford in Lincs. I actually spoke to the wife who was the one who had seen it properly and most. The dog was very nervous and wouldnt come close at all. They live on a farm and they think a couple of times may have slept in the barn, as she saw him leaving a couple of mornings. Hasnt been seen for a week or so, but they will inform me if there are any sightings at all. They did feed this dog aswell, leaving food down near the barn for him. Lets not give up hope on Scrappy. JanxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
hi just an update on scrappy the boy was due at the police station on monday for hes bail he never turned up he didnt want to so the police are picking him friday he will then be charged for taking scrapps as for the car wash the police believe it never exsisted the police have said when they pick him up friday they will try to get the lad to take him to were he took scrapps i want hold my breath xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Not known
Email sent to owner to advise them of the postings of the found dogs.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Sally Nicholson-Fisher
I hope one of these is Scrappy. He's been gone too long in disgraceful circumstances.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostGlynafon
Homepage > Environment and Environmental Services > Environmental Health > Animal Welfare > Stray Dogs Photo Library > VR4333 VR4333 Full size version (0.1MB) VR 4333 is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier Dog ( Castrated) white with black spotting showing through on his shoulder ears and face found in the Leftwich area wearing a black webbing collar and is Micro chipped. Found on 18 September. This is on www2,valeroyal.gov.uk (don't know whether Scrappy is castrated?) Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostGlynafon
Message Posted on: 23/09/2007 16:13:00 FOUND . white dog may be staffordshire bull terrier we live on a farm this dog has been around aprox a week limping on right side has a coller but unbale to get close to it so dont know if there is a identity tag. This is on www.lostyourpet.net Dog seen in Sleaford area, LincsLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Sally Nicholson-Fisher
No further news about Scrappy? Bloody disgrace.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
cattern
well scrappy what can one say,i have read everyones messages,so much love and care from all,except from the little *******!!!!!! alien that took you,what an unfeeling,uncaring horror[for want of a better word to call you]this person is,we hope and pray you return safe and well to those who love you scrappy xxxxxxxxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Jade:)
Lets not give upp .. xx also lets looks at other dogs which are stil missing .. xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
Riverlady yes maybe sometimes they are quick but most of the time utterly useless !!! Want anything done do it yourself !!! Scrappy needs more coverage !! show your self sweet heart !! Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Sally Nicholson-Fisher
Just been catching up on Scrappy, and very disappointed that there is little progress. I'm a senior social worker and every day come into contact with kids like the one who stole Scrappy. Now, kids do need their rights protected, which is why we have the Children Act (no 's' on the end) - it's a good piece of legislation and has saved lives. All of us need the Human Rights Act, and animals need a specific Act relating to their rights too - not to do with human responsibility, environment etc, but to do with the fact that they are sentient beings, and should therefore be protected. The criminal law must also protect them, and that clearly has not happened here. Also, I would just say a word about the somewhat lax attitude towards the boy's behaviour by his social worker, carer and the residential home. The word is "slack", and here's another couple - "poor practice". It will never be in this young person's interest to let him get away with breaking the law and hurting people. If I were his social worker, I would be doing a piece of work with him about responsibility, morals, and would be demanding that he put right what he has done. It's called 'reparation' and it aims at turning out responsible adults. Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Nicky check the white staffy in found. She could have been moved out the area! CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
This is close to area where the lad was in care. N10. Any helpers that way??? Are there posters up in that area?? CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
just recived a call from the police scrapps was last seen in muswell hill north london so any1 in that area please please look out xx Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
if its any consolation the police did recover a stolen dog up our way. A young lad was walking his bull mastiff pup and was ambushed by some young lads who stole the dog. We postered but in the end the police did find the dog and the youths charged. They are slow but sometimes they do get results. The owners son tho doesn't walk the dog alone anymore. Do you think the dog could be in the Gravesend area? near where the lad got done for theft??? You are doing a great job ,keep the pressure up. Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
This is so wrong !!! I don't know what else to say !! Please be strong scrapppy will come home !! So much for the police a !! I have got no faith left in them , i have lived within the law all my life never ever done nothing wrong and they don't want to help us but want to help these SCUM !!!! This World is so F-ed up i hate it ! The pc on here was not amused at this site well i tell you what maybe if he had something stolen from him something he adored, loved dearly then maybe he would know what we are going through and maybe do something about getting scrappy home !! This world is so twisted why have a police service when you can do more less what ever you want and get away with it !!! We need to put more posters every where and anywhere !!!! posters need to go as many places as poss !!!!! x stay sfae scrappy xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
OK. Data Protection we understand. But in order for you to be satisfied by that, they need to have told you that they were following up the leads given by the boy. Did they ?Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
hi all the police have just rang the boy has been questioned again bailed again for another 4 weeks still not charged he has giveen a few names to were scrapps may be ive asked the police to tell me the area scrapps may be but wont tell me date of protection act what about scrapps protection ive begged just for an area wont tell me but it doesnt look like it's in the hornsey area ive asked him to ask his boss so we can put posters up in the area waiting for a call back xx Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
doglover123
It must be so infuriating for you when the people who should help just pass a dog off as being nothing important. I just hope it never happens to them. They probably have not got any pets anyway, to take that attitude. GRRRRRRRRRRR some people. I hope you are safe Scrappy sweetie. xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
scrappy you was top of my board yesterday at pedham place farm kent !! amount of people that stopped and looked and took doglost number and email !! so many people didn't have a clue what doglost was !!! hopefully might jog someone's memory x stay safe xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
hello no still no news on scrappy boy should be questioned again he has to go back to the police station for hes bail know that he's had a nice holiday police should ring me again this week for an update a story went to press last week had no news on that yet dont seem right there has been no sightings of him its been 6 weeks know come on scrapps come home xx ] Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
any more news on scrappy ?? xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
PaulaK
have printed scrappy posters to take to carboot on A3 tomorrowLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Stephen H
AWW GEE ! AREN'T OUR BRITISH POLICEMEN WONDERFUL... ..."Sniff" - "Makes y' really - really proud - doesn't it ?!" " hahahahahahahahahahahaha *breathes* hahahahahahahahahahahaha " Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Keelah
press release appealing for those in hornsey and haringey who have info on scrappy to come forward.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
It is the word 'responsibility' that I want to hear because that is the question....who was 'responsible?' Stay safe ScrappyxxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
pass the buck !!!!!!!! What can i say !!! SCRAPPY show your self sweet heart x Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
Medway Council have asked us to post the following statement: "We wish Nicky luck in finding Scrappy. This is a criminal matter and we would advise Scrappy?s owner to contact the police. A child being fostered in Medway could be the responsibility of another council anywhere in the country, as the child may be fostered through a private agency. Medway Council does not employ either of the named social workers. We do hope Scrappy is returned to his rightful owner without delay." Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
Hi nicky who has told you to stop harrassing the social worker etc?? But it is alright for that lad to turn your life upside down , steal a member of your family and nothing happens to that lad, where is your justice !! All they needed to do was bring the dog back when they new where he was and that would of been that in a kind of round about way but no he had to go and cause you more upset by selling the dog on !! He has got away with it so far he even gets to go on holiday while you have cancelled yours due to scrappy being stolen by this youth ! And they expect you to stop harraising them it is not harrasing it is being concerned about your dogs welfare and want him home he is your family member and need him home how dare them say you are harrasing this is a family member a very much loved family member not a item or a bag or a book it's a family member !! This world is so wrong so many very sad people in this world !!! What they going to do to you arrest you for harrasment ?? Like i said this world is so wrong !! We will get scrappy home wheather the police want to help or not !! Be strong and never give up !! fight all the way and good luck riverlady x Nicky sending you all our luv and strength !! Where there is a will there is a way ! Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
hi river lady the youth is 14 ive been told to stop haressing the home and social worker there saying they have moved him i think there saying that so i stop ringing lol and that he has a new social worker but he was still in there care at the time so they are responsible for his actions havent heard from the police this week so im asuming the youth is on hoilday even after saying he shouldnt be allowed until my scrapps is home or tell us where he is but no one listens xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
We want scrappy x x we want scrappy x we want scrappy x come home soon boy x Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
Is the youth nearly 18? He must be if they were going to put him in a hostel.....because when he turns 18 he is an adult then social services will him like a ton of bricks....as an adult he will be on his own...and chargeable with theft,non compliance with the Animal Welfare Act and deception. He must be 16/ 17ish ????? But if he turns 18 any day its all change. The very best of luck . Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
Sit and write letters of complaints, formal complaints.The social worker is at the bottom of the ladder, go to the top. The foster carers earn loads plus expenses and should be made aware they made a big mistake. Have no pity for them as they are all trained to do their jobs by the letter of the law. They have all broken the law and should be told so by their Head of Social Services.........simply so they dont do it ever again plus they are still in daily contact with the youth and they might get more info?? Keep at it the computer is a useful tool.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostGlynafon
Things get worse and worse in this country. When is common sense and decency going to return. Yesterday a murderer who deprived a family of a father and husband allowed to stay in this country on his release because of his human rights. The Act should have been called The Human Rights Act of Criminals, that it seems is all it is. Until the police force and lawyers etc. recognise that it is criminals who must be punished, not the innocent there is no hope for this country. Keep fighting Nicky 1! the only hope is maximum publicity for every single case of this kind until those who have the power to stop this insanity get off their backsides and DO SOMETHING! Sorry you are missing your holiday Nicky but can understand how you feel and I would feel exactly the sameLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
the press rang today there also want to ring around all the car washes valeting ect so hopefuly north london paper will do a story on it so i hope some one out there reading it and know were scrapps is we can get him home were he belongs ive cancelled my hoilday for next week does seem right to go without him xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
People make me sick !! Worried about that little sts rights , what about ours rights scrappys mum has had her home invaded and had been burgled (scrappy stolen) same thing ! and that doesnt matter , that youth is going to be in and out of care untill he is what 16 - 17 ?? and then get benfits everything put on a plate for him and no one gives a flying toss about us !!! Scrappy has rights are these people thick !! Have you been to the rspca so they can inform his social worker about scrappys rights !! If you are a good citzen you have got no chance !! Hopefully this st will get whats coming to him ! and there is no excuse in what he has done , if he is doing this now what is he going to be doing when his in his 20's !! sick kid he dont need social services !! PUT HIM IN THE ARMY ! Me and my husband come from a broken home etc but we didn't turn out to be little sts !! so sont even use that excuse !! you will get scrappy back be patient and hold on with all your might !! And to the old bill do something good for a change and help the good guys out you might think it is just a dog but it is not just a dog or a family member it is also a !!!!!!!!!!!!!!STOLEN DOG !!!!!!!! See the difference !!! Family Dog ! !!!!!!!STOLEN STOLEN STOLEN FAMILY DOG !!!!! I wish there was something i could do for you we all do on this site but we are only human sadly enough xxxxxxxxx Scrappy will be home soon hold tight xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
Ring defra 084559 33 55 77 and email helpline@defra.gsi.gov.uk say that your local authority and police and courts are ignoring the new Animal Welfare act 2006????See what the gov has to say??Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
The social worker will be thinking of the youths rights .....thats why we have such problems under the Childrens Acts they have more rights than royalty....they each have an army of social workers, solicitors and barristers t to protect them...... what you have to moan/nag insist on is that under the Welfare Act 2006 Scrappy has rights, the question is who was 'responsible'?? who took scrappy away from his regular diet and routine??? A mature dog settled and now anywhere....I'll have a search on the net tomorrow and stay in touch with Battersea, you can do a lot with the computer, email vets, rescue centres, RSPCA, Blue Cross hospitals,find the local free papers. You must be devastated stay strong Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
thanks river lady he was a the time liveing in coppets road post code N10 jane has the post code i have spoken to hes social worker around 3 wks ago he was no help he's attuide the boy has not got to tell where the dog is also said the police won't be any help because it's not like a human being i rowed with him and said just because he doesnt speak and hasnt got 2 legs he still has feelings and he was my dog this youth stole ive been told by the police if this goes to court he will only recive a caution i shall ring this numbers tomorrow thanks again xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
and another Strawberry Bubbles 0208 348 8444 Pembroke House, Pembroke Rd, Hornsey, N7......I just yahooed Hornsey N7 car wash and approx 10 in a radius. Any idea where the hostel was??? Couls start there , local vets, sortig office in case he sold him to a local.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
Found one .....The American Car Wash Co, 0207 609 2267, 455 Caledonian Road, LN7 9BA ring them see if they have email??? Good luckLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
Well I'm glad the police read it and if I'd known I'd written a bit more. The Police need the pressure kept on them to link up the North London lot. I am livid with the Social Services, they had a 'duty to care' and failed and I'd be asking them what are they doing about it??? Maybe they could link up with North London services and try to rectify their stupidness. If no HornseyN7 helpers reply I could trek up on train for day and go padding about postering asking about cr washes.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
doglover123
So the police are not amused .WELL neither are we with the slaphazard way this whole case is being handled. How about doing the right thing for the sake of the dog for once or is there no feelings for the animal . I am slowly losing respect for the police where animals are concerned. BRITAIN IS AN ANIMAL LOVING COUNTRY....piffle.!!!!!Come back home Scrappy where you belong. xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
hi all im finally in thanks jane also thank u emmabellady for all ur support and messages and every one else who has took time to write in as u know im scrappys mum im hoping the police do go to london next week to were scrapps was taken not holding me breath the polie will but fingers crossed we get closer than we have in the last 5 weeks will let u know how i get on thank you again every1Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostGlynafon
www2.valeroyal.gov.uk - then search for stray dogs/dog wardenLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Cannot find this valegov- tried in search engines- where did you find it? NB Scappy is ALL white so a dog with white markings is probabaly not him but worth a check-if I could find it!! Did you have a direct link- if so please send me a pm with it. Cheers. CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
staffy girl
THERE IS A MALE DOG WITH WHITE MARKINGS ON VALEGOV.UK (STRAY DOGS PHOTO LIBRARY) I KNOW SCRAPPY IS MICROCHIPPED BUT I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH FAITH IN HUMANS AFTER SOME OF THE REPORTS I HAVE READ ON HERE BEFORE HAVE ALOOK ONLY YOU WILL KNOW XXXLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
The pc was not amused !!! NEITHER are we !! Maybe if people took us seriously than these comments would not be on here !! My cousin was cheif inspector and was a very good police officer and alot of them are but there is also alot that are not bothered about us or our dog's ! x come home soon scrappy !! not long sweetie pie and you should be home soon !!Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Just had a further update from Nicola. The police have visited again . It seems that the court case is to be postphoned as the youth in question is ]] wait for it]] being sent away on holiday.!!! If we knew the area maybe we could get out an alert!! The pc who visited was shown this web site but the onwer askjing him to take stock of all the dogs that go missing- many stolen. He did read the commnets on this thread and ' was not amused'. No comment. The annoying thing about this whole episode is that if the foster parent or social worker had acted in a sensible manner and found out more about Scrappy by alereting a dog warden then he would have been home the same evening!! ALL WE DO KNOW- is that Scrappy was sold to a friend of a man who works in a car wash. if anyone in the area around Hornsey N7 borough of harringate knows of ANY hand or automated car wash places would they please take ina poster and ask them to show staff or place it on the premises. you can tell them the dog was stolen and someone working in a car wash has passed on the dog. HELPERS please post if you can do this. thank you. CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
How unusual for the old bill ! Another youth bites the dust !! So how do they expain the situation to the owners of scrappy ?? Oh sorry we gave him time to do the right thing, we thought we would him give the chance to bring the dog back and do the right thing BUT !!!!! Some times i worry what kind of world we live in ? The old bill couldn't organise a booze up i a brewery !! Mind you thats where they like going after work so they might just manage that !!! Forget about them looks like north london needs a good looking at and more postering to get scrappy home ! Someone must know something!!! He must of been seen !! Scrappy come on boy show your self x keep safe untill you are found very soon xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
This is a bit similar to little Rhino's case why are the Police so slow? In an age of instant technology? And the Courts!!!Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
It seems the police still have done nothing and now they are unsure of the whereabouts of the youth!! Dont suppose it has anything to do with the fact he is due in court soon for another charge- did they think he would stay put???Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
so do the police know where he is still xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
The police can be helpful sometimes.....especially the PCSO's Police Community Support Officers who ride about on bicycles in yellow ....they talk to the youths, patrol the estates and they can be reached on-line, slowly you could look up each London borough then email them a poster, the real coppers are a different kettle of fish and regard dog theft as low level crime also the PCSO's nose into back gardens , check alleys and make it their business........by complaining you will find them behaving differently, prompt and polite coz its all logged down and goes towards statistics and they want to be top of the league if they can.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Stephen H
Y' know what?! - It AMAZES me, the way the Police are so disinterested if a Dog is stolen! HOWEVER - if a CAR is taken, we're MORE than welcomed to watch televised high speed chases, involving God knows how many Police cars, from the comfort and view of a Police helicopter! WHO CARES?! A car is oh-so easily replaced! - Merely an inconvinience! WHEN A BELOVED DOG IS TAKEN: So is a piece of your heart, life and soul! - Your very being in fact! Now - how easily is THAT pain and time replaced? - It ISN'T! With, er - "respect" - our Authorities/Police need to wake up to that! - It might even make "people" think twice about stealing/taking irreplaceable members of our "families !" - AKA "property?!"Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
found some solicitors, on line ......specialising in Animal Welfare Act www,securelaw.co.uk 0292044 5697 and they work to get COMPENSATION but ring them for advice Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Thanks to everyone for all the advise. owner is logging in and reading and taking note. CJ.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
doglover123
Good Luck !!xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostGlynafon
GOOD LUCK FOR TODAY SCRAPPY'S MUM, ITS TIME DOG'S RIGHTS WERE BROUGHT TO THE NOTICE OF BUREAUCRACY AND THEY RECOGNISED THAT THEY ARE LIVING AND FEELING BEINGS NOT JUST UNIMPORTANT POSSESSIONS TO BE IGNORED!Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Owner unable to reply- Im trying to find out the reason. Thanks for all your messages. She is going to be phoning around and getting armed with all this info then will be phoning police etc and try and get some movement on this !! CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
They are breaking the law........The Animal Welfare Act 2006 check defra.gov.uk . The Act came into force 6th April 2007 and max fine is ?20,000. Get ready for monday morning then threaten them all, the Police, the youth and head of Social services with legal action. The Social Services will be blindly following The Childrens Act but you must open their eyes to the fact that animals now have NEW rights as well as children. They MUST ensure that ALL the welfare needs are met........it is the owners or keepers responsibility......and they MUST be protected from pain, injury, suffering and disease. They admit they know the whereabouts of the alleged keeper therefore they are under the law required to ensure SCRAPPYS welfare rights and needs are being met. Look up defra, read about the Act then quote it to them. the very best of luck.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nellie
please try putting your story in www.dogworld.co.uk or www.ourdogs.co.uk news papes ,iv seen a few articals in there from doglost , so hopefully they will run this xxx good luckLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Sally Nicholson-Fisher
we must have action to make the police do the appropriate work!Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
anymore news ?? come home scrappy xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
thinking of you at this hard time, He will be home soon , keep on fighting for scrappy with all your might. Give this pc what for !!Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
jacky-uk
Calamity Jane, have sent you a pm xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Scrappys owner phoned last night as unable to loog in- (trying to find out why for her). The youth in question has now been charged and will be appearing in court At Chatham on 24th. The police recon they know where the dog is yet still will not tell the owner. the person they think has the dog is now away on holiday and not back until the 10th. The PC dealing with this case is not returning calls to the ownerand he does not seem to be updating the records so others are not aware of the full story!!. She is now trying her local MP. We have already sent the story to the national papers when we first heard but so far no response!! CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Hannah
Come home soon Scrappy. I have added his details to my forum Find Missing Dogs (http://findmissingdogs.proboards67.com/index.cgi), Terrier Talk & to Bull Breeds Online. xxx Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
Police are useless i would be pulling my hair out by now and i would be down the cop shop every minute of every day untill they buged i would give them hell, if they know where scrappy is bring him home !! What do you have to do ? DONT THE OLD BILL KNOW ABOUT THE RULES ON DOG WELFARE ?? MAYBE SOMEONE SHOULD EDUCATE THEM !!!! DEAL WITH HIM LATER BUT GET SCRAPPY HOME FIRST X XLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
Get in contact with your local MP, complain to head of Social Services involved because technically the youth was their 'responsibility'.....also isn't there a new law regarding the WELFARE of animals WHAT ABOUT SCRAPPYS WELFARE???...are the police, the youth and social services ignoring Scrappy's legal right to adequate welfare? My heart goes out to you. Kick up a stink at the top.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
doglover123
Why oh Why !!! are the police giving this lad extra time to bring the dog in. Can they not get the dog back home to its owner first and then deal with the lad accordingly. Something does not seem right here. Given extra time the lad could pass the dog on to someone else, so the police will not have achieved anything. I would go higher with this pursuit. If it was a human baby it would not be delayed giving it back to the owner. Fingers crossed you soon get Scrappy back with you. xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nellie
go to the papers ask them to run the story the police need to be named and shamedLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
Why are they given this youth time to bring him back ? They should make him bring him back asap and charge him? What kind of world are we living in ? The police knows where he is ? And they are giving this youth time ? Police make me sick one rule for one person and one rule for another ! If it was the likes of me or you we would of been charged by now! Come home soon scrappy x Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Recent update. Police gave youth till monday to bring dog back to avoid charges- this has now been extended to next week!! The police say they know where the dog is??? But waiting for the youth to bring him back ??? if not owner is insisting on pressing charges. Area is London so recon we need to concentrate on the area around the hostel. Those with local knowledge perhaps they would post to assist others of the area. thanks CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Please poster where you can! Any one on using stations poster if you can. Owner does not live in London but Meday towns- kent. She needs as much help as possible from helpers on this site esp the ones in this area. Owner has also placed the details on gumtree as there seems to be a lot of people from London who read this site. We need to find out who is holding this dog. CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
If the youth went up to North London they jump on and off the North London Line which ends up in Richmond it might be worth postering the stations. The North London Line is separate from the underground and is usually shown as a white line on underground maps. Lot of people use it.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Stephen H
TO SCRAPPY'S OWNER, (and J & CJ) Thank you for being so kind and thank you for being so grateful! I'm SO SORRY it wasn't Scrappy, but being able to see and "play" with this dog (Max) it was so obviously not him! This one was about 9 months old, and the young lad had only had him for a little while. Which suddenly made me realise "of course" that's why I'd never seen a white staffy before! I'm TRULY SORRY if I'd raised your hopes, but, well... (I am sorry!) Hang on in there though, won't you ?! Thank you one n' all! Stephen H (xxx)Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
Have spoken to stephen who saw the dog again today and went and had a good lokk with the poster in his hand-unfortunately it is not Scrappy but a much younger dog and he did not respond to the name either. Thanks Steph for looking out-much appreciated.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
doglover123
Checking to see if any more news on Scrappy. Stay safe sweetie. xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
In answer to your question. If you spot a missing dog with any one potentially undesirable would suggest keeping a safe distance and follow- without looking to suspicious. If they then go into a house then take note of address.At this point you must NEVER put your self or others at risk. Police should be involved as tbis dog is stolen property. if you get to this stage contact someone at doglost. C.J.- PS there are 2 Janes on this site- Jayne the founder of doglost at HQ. Im the other one- Calamity Jane.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Stephen H
Why thanks Jayne !... ...As I said, I've not come across with "clarity" as such ! I know EXACTLY what to do regarding "rounding up" a stray dog... On July 31st 1999... there was a gorgeous GSD walking the streets 'round here, so I simply followed him to the park, where I was able to calmly call him to me - put a "Bonio" on the ground, and confidently/(p'haps stupidly ? - nah !) put a spare lead gently over his head, and brought him home ! - Where he stayed for around 21 days !... I contacted the Police - USELESS !! - Dog warden - USELESS !!... ...(Also, in 1999 the 'net wasn't as useful as 'tis now !) After 21 days of sharing time, and caringfor this wonderful looking and wonderfully natured 10month old GSD... there he was, in an advert in our local paper ! (Sorry if this is really boring ?!) Anyway, what had happened was that a new local school-taker had moved to this area, and on that day (during the move) he (Max the GSD) simply went "AWOL" ! - The family WERE genuine dog lovers - owned a (senior) Dalmation and had two very nice kiddies - (it was kinda strange, 'cos as we said our goodbyes, there wasn't a dry eye to be seen ?! We, (m' girlfriend n' I,) were SO happy that, well, y' know... we ALL lived happily ever-after ! Also, I approached an escaped Rottie last year... and managed to get him to trust and approach me, and happily walked him ("Tyson") and returned him to where I'd seen him escape from ! I was told by onlookers, I wasbraveinsaneorstupid ! (I know I'm not brave, so)......... Sorry everyone - (that took forever to say so little !) - apologies ! No Jayne... what I actually meant to ask (in fewer words) was taking into consideration, yes I ALWAYS carry a slip lead, and I'm very comfortable with ALL dogs...(I stupidly haven't a care or fear in the world with them... no, the fearful situation I dread, is (taking into account, that the Police 'round here, are SO disinterested about dogs)... ...WHAT should I do, if I happen to see a Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Tracey Freddies mum
just checking on scrappy someone has him.its just a matter of time before hes home.stay safe sweet chap our frdeeie is white with a patch on eye.hes a dear chap too and they need to be home and safe.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
With all the hundreds emails sent out I was hoping for more sightings of this one by now. If any one in area has had email and has posted please let me know either on here or send me a pm. Hoping for lots of action on this one to make him a well postered dog! CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Stephen - thanks for keeping a look out!! If you do see this dog again- or procedure for any lost dog. Try and catch- have handy one of lose slip over leads to make it easy. Any found dog- report to dog warden and police. If you are able to get the warden ask them to call & scan the dog- or take to a near by vets who will assist. If you are able to look after any dog found you must inform them you intend to do so. if this is scappy he is chipped. If clollar is still on it is red leather with studded silver bones . If you need further help I have sent you a pm with my contact number. CJ Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Stephen H
Hello ! I live in EAST HAM London E6. This is the first time I've addded a comment on here, so apologies if this hasn't the "clarity" that other messages have ! About six o'clock (just now - Saturday) I've seen some , er... "kids" around 9 to 12 years old, opposite where I live, and YES, there was a cream/white Staffy with them... They really n' truly were NOT behaving, as though the dog had anything to do with them ! The kids - 3 white children (?) and a half caste child ! It seemed to me, that a dog was a kinda "novelty ?!" to them... ...running back n' forth without a lead on him, so he'd chase them, whilst the half caste kid was, I'd say, stamping his foot suddenly, so's to provoke a reaction ! By the time I'd grabbed m' keys etc, they'd gone ! My girlfriend went through the streets around here, which actually lead to a park/recreational ground ! No luck ! What I shall do, is print out some posters/whatever, and put a few around and IN the park ! In the mean-time... I damn well know, I'll be hanging of the window... ...(Wall End Rd. East Ham E6 London !) And keeping an eye out for him... ...that's a promise - You are absolutely correct in stating that he certainly DOES stand out, being white ! May I just say, ALL of the dogs (and their owners) will be in our thoughts n' prayers ! BTW - Without wishing to get your hopes up... ...In 1988, I spent EIGHT WEEKS (April 22 - June 18 1988) looking for m' beloved dog - and FOUND her ! (In Harold Wood ?!) So... ...Hang in there, eh ?! Hey Jayne... an important and serious question: What ON EARTH should one do, upon recognizing a lost dog ?! In this area - (East London !) - I've NO idea, what to do ?!: I can't really just grab a dog to check it's tag/whatever, or start asking some thick n' dangerous idiot about the dog - (and expect to walk away with my very LIFE ?!) - let alone a/the dog in question ?! It's something that's only just dawned on me really ?! Kids, that's a differentLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Tracey Freddies mum
any news on scrappy hes pretty distintivebeing white.please find him soon and get him back to his family................Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
With the weekend coming up plus school holidays i am hoping that our band of wonderful helpers will be out on the streets to make Scappy known. Owners do not live in the areas he may have been taken so will be relying on as much help as we can give. There is a possibilty that Scrappy could have been given to a man who washes cars -this could be in the Hornsey area but we cannot be certain about this information. CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
nicky1
im scrappy's owner and ive read through everyones messages id like to say a big THANK YOU to everyone for taking the time to write with ur support missing my little man massive its quite and lonely without him cant seem to pick meself up need you home scrapps and fast little j missingyou hes walking round with your chain how do you tell a 2 year old whats going on . andy needs he cuddles your he's loyal friend unconditanial love you gave us scrapps boys missing you to xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
hilary2007
Been hunting through free add pages and found this http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-adverts.showadvert/index-1031198254/953d8f73.htmlLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostRiverlady
Why doesn't someone print out DogLost Scrappy forum......then with his own eyes he can see how many are looking for him plus Scrappy needs food and water ......good luck any way he looks a bit like mine bigger and older tho so we are on the look out. Battersea should be contacted just in case he was left on a train????Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
mashutterbug
i am now living in cornwall having moved from edmonton n9-staffs are rare down here so i will keep a look out-good luckLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
UNKNOWN
Hi there i have handed a poster into thamesmead pdsa as you never know !! hope he is home soon xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Yasa
Posters need to be displayed as soon as possible on notice boards, lamp posts, entrances to parks, dog bins and on cars. Take posters to vets, pet shops, postmen (for sorting offices), milkmen, dustmen, street cleaners, taxi drivers, schools, pubs, youth clubs, newsagents, post offices, takeaways, dog training clubs, supermarkets and car parks. Hand out reduced-down posters or cards to people - especially dog walkers - and deliver to houses and businesses. Police stations, Dog Wardens, the RSPCA and all rescue centres need checking frequently and preferably visited in person by owner or someone who knows Scrappy well. Stay safe Scrappy until we find you x Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
180 helpers e mailed in SE postcodes.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
150 helpers e mailed in E,EC and WC postcodes.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
110 helpers e mailed in NW postcode area.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
140 helpers in DA postcodes alerted.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
160 helpers in N postcodes notified.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Tracey Freddies mum
come on scrappy everyone is waiting for you to show your handsome face.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
We still have not received photo. Please e mail to admin@doglost.co.ukLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Gravesend dog warden now alerted. CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Dog is now logged on system at Haringey. all details have been taken. Mine as reporter of full story plus owners name and phone number. many notes as this one was so complex!!Info the home in Hornsey is in Coppetts road as it came up on their system when the post code was entered- N10 1HR. CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
Lets hope he bought him with him now he has been picked up in Gravesend- or has he hidden him in Hornsey??- borough of haringey - not as listed below( misheard on phone) CJLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Not known
Doglover I think you might be right there, the kid may have the dog hidden away somewhere.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
Have spoken to owner and the boy has since been caught in Gravesend so we will e mail helpers in this area as well when photo arrives.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
doglover123
Some Foster parents aye!! They must have known the dog did not belong to the boy. What were they thinking of. ? The boy is obviously emotionly disturbed and need kid gloves for the right type of person to get the info of where Scrappy is from him. He maybe has him hidden away somewhere. Children like this often are looking to love something. I do hope you soon get your little dog back. Stay safe sweetie. xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator
well What can I say on this one!1 just spoken to owner about this and it is a complete b**s up all round. A youth staying with foster parents near to scappy's home stole the dog from the garden. he took it back to his foster home after removing the disc on the collar. They kept the dog over night.( dont ask why or reason as i might explode in anger at their stupid lack of actions) Social services came to take the youth back to a hostel in london and took him and the dog back- no questions asked.( again why??????) arriving at the hostel- told no dogs allowed. Youth and dog run off again. youth returns minus the dog but will not say where he is. Police cannot make him tell what has happened depite all the facts. need a major poster campainge and will try to get press involved on this as well. Area is phone code 0208. Police station alerted is Hornsey N7 borough of harringate. Picture should be emailed to HQ today by son of owner.Scappy is wearing a red collar with silver bones on it. C.J.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Tracey Freddies mum
hurry home scrappy and be safe until these fab people from doglost get you home....Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
bubbleblonde20
hope u get ur beloved scrappy back soon xxxxx neo`s ownerLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Matherick
So sorry to hear about your scrappy being stolen. My thoughts and prayers are with you at this time. Stay safe scrappy until you are reunited with your real owner. Take care owner and don't loose heart, he will be back again soon. xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
carolmil
do you know whereabouts in north london, it's quite a bit area? Stay safe Scrappy xxLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Tracy2306
Stay safe Scrappy sweetheart!! x x xLast edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18
Unknown
Awaiting more details.Last edited: 2010-05-11 02:17:18

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