Rainbow Bridge: Tan With White Chest Staffordshire Bull Terrier Cross Female

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2016-10-03 21:41 DogLostSharon - Social Media Volunteer

So sorry for your loss
Run Free Uby. X

2016-10-03 21:21 ClaireC

I think now may be a good idea to not post anymore comments and indeed agreed the same with Steps that everything is becoming too much. I think Steps will have a clearer idea in the morning. Thanks for tel.nos Millys mum.

2016-10-03 21:09 Happiness yorkie lover xxx

R.i.p little one xxx

2016-10-03 21:08 Millys Mum

Finding out all this today in an email must have been just the worse way of receiving the account of what happened to Uby. We all understand how you are feeling and perhaps (hopefully) you may feel clearer about what you would like to do in the morning, especially if the right people can help you. If you do need Jim Dowd's contact details, they are: 020 8699 2001 (constituency office) or 020 7219 4617 (parliamentary office). His email is: dowdj@parliament.uk. Cllr Kate Lymer's contact number is: 07834 418 236 or email: kate.lymer@bromley.gov.uk.

2016-10-03 21:01 Unknown

I recorded the conversation with mcgowen on friday :0) its just been 1 excuse after another. Well who ever got bit had to go hospital hope they can proved medical report unless they was bitten by someone elses dog & now saying it was mine! Wouldn't put anything pass these liars now

2016-10-03 20:51 Unknown

My dog would have been jumping up them for attention i've had rspca in my house with the police in past & they had no issues & could see how. If that was case he'd have told lady @ battersea about this attack! Had all weekend to think this rubbish up haven't they :0( hence why on friday after saying he was going to call sdk & call me back he didn't but he called sdk 100%

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2016-10-03 20:46 Unknown

Yes milly but whats the point now? This is a low blow & even what gillyp is saying is discrediting my dog. I cant be bothered with this rubbish anymore

2016-10-03 20:46 Millys Mum

In my opinion (and it's only my opinion), I think you should be allowed the odd swear word to describe the people who dealt with Uby! How strange this account has now finally come to light after all this time. Poor Uby. As you say, she must have been so very scared. I can't understand how an 'approved' kennel's' staff would be put at risk when dealing with stray dogs. Surely these holding kennels would have had fail-safe facilities in place to allow all newcomers to settle before being subjected to stressful testing. And apart from that, why didn't SDK connect your lost dog report to their found dog report in the early days. And seemingly, it's only now that Jim McGowan is starting to accept that Uby might actually belongs to you!!! The Portfolio Holder for Public Protection and Safety is Cllr Kate Lymer. She's a Conservative Councillor for the Bickley Ward which Peter Fookes would be able to confirm. Have you got any family, friends, neighbours, etc who would be able to verify Uby's temperament? And what about her vet? Would he or she support you and also confirm that they found Uby to have a good temperament.

2016-10-03 20:45 Hollieberry

Steps I do not believe any of the comments or excuses that you have been given by the Jim McGowan ,for one thing how would a member of the public find & restrain an aggressive dog with no collar no way. I am sure a lot of people like me will have found this distressing knowing that your poor dogs life ended like this.

2016-10-03 20:43 Unknown

Any dog can become reactive in kennels. She was probably scared and disorientated. Unfortunately whoever assesses the dogs are not aware that the most placid loving dog can change due to these circumstances. Such a shame.

2016-10-03 20:30 ClaireC

Millys mum are you able to provide Steps with contact fone numbers for the people you have mentioned please. Thank you in advance

2016-10-03 20:25 Unknown

They've all been colluding with each other over the last 2 weeks mark my words. This is rubbish its gone from its not mine to she attacked someone no way no way in hell & you have to believe me she wouldn't i need to find out who classed her as a Schedule 1 as shes a cross bred no test just an opinion this is absolute rubbish. Its just an attempt to discredit me & her omg

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2016-10-03 20:12 Unknown

Sorry for swearing but in the 4 years shes never attacked anyone or thing she even sits there when cats in garden.. this is BS of an excuse she bit no one what a bunch of lying bastards she must have been frightened to death. Shes been looked after buy others been stuck in vest etc she wouldn't display anything apart from love! Funny how now its my dog & more excuses when the shits about to hit the fan?

2016-10-03 20:07 Unknown

All i can say to this is hell no


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Dear Mr S, further to our telephone conversation on Friday.

With regards to the stray dog the council collected which you believe to belong to you, this dog was found by a member of the public in Penge, Bromley on the 17th September 2016 and subsequently collected by our dog warden contractor.

The dog had no identification nor address tag and no micro-chip was found when it was scanned, as the law requires and therefore unfortunately there was no means of contacting the owner.

Additionally there was concern at this time that this dog may be a banned breed in terms of the legislation.

This dog was taken for formal identification by a Police Officer qualified to identify banned breeds and was confirmed as a Schedule 1 dog and therefore a banned breed.  Once formal positive identification of a banned breed is confirmed, the Council is not permitted to rehome nor release such a dog back to the owner without the consent of the Police.

As part of a service for owners to trace their lost dog, details of this dog were entered on the publically accessible web site that the Council uses to enable dog owners who have lost their pests to identify if their dog has been found by the Council.

The dog was subsequently delivered, as required to the Councils local kennelling contractor for care,  at which point our dog warden contractors responsibility ended.

During this period of kennelling there were incidents where dog handling staff were attacked and one of the handlers was bitten by the dog.  The dog also then began to physically the kennel in which it was being held.

The dogs temperament deteriorated whilst with our kennel and was judged by the Council to be at risk of harming both itself and members of kennel staff. In consideration that the dog was unchipped with no means of owner identification, was a banned breed and therefore not legally permitted to be re-homed a Council decision was made to euthanase this dog.

I assure you that the council is aware that this will be very difficult news for you, as this may have been your dog. As you believe this to be the case,  if you do have some photos you could share, it would help to confirm that this dog was indeed yours.

If I can be of further assistance, please do let me know.

Kind regards,

Jim McGowan
Head of Environmental Protection| Environment and Community services
London Borough of Bromley
Tel:  0208 313 4651
www.bromley.gov.uk<http://www.bromley.gov.uk/>



She never turn on anyone & if thats case i want proof

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2016-10-03 19:57 Unknown

Yeah i will be in contact with him its just hard to explain whats been going on & whats happened!? Nobody seams to be able to get hold of jim mcgowen now & he's not returning anyones calls lol.. got a few names i could call him but it wont get me anywhere & im still waiting on wheldon law to call me back it just feels bit personal! But i guess there busy

2016-10-03 19:41 Millys Mum

I don't know Peter Fookes and have never spoken to him or come across him on my travels but I believe he's a very good and caring person. He has a good reputation and knows his stuff as he's been a Ward Councillor for many years.

2016-10-03 19:37 Unknown

Thank you hollieberry not a bad bone in her body & full of love :0)


Thank you skywalker

Doglost team

janiejewel1649

Tracey Freddies mum

JANI

Captain

Millys mum

nickyjm

& anyone i've missed as quite a few to mention sorry

2016-10-03 19:36 Millys Mum

It's good to hear that you are getting comfort from all of us at this unbelievably sad time. We are all feeling your obvious and raw pain. Just to let you know, I've just checked and Jim Dowd is MP for West Lewisham and Penge and so would cover your address. I spoke to his office a few months ago on behalf of a work colleague and the gentleman I spoke to was very understanding and helpful. His office was also very helpful when my friend's daughter had her passport, credit cards, money, etc stolen and found herself stranded in NZ. I believe he's a Labour MP although it doesn't seem to make much difference these days...

2016-10-03 19:26 Unknown

I will milly

im going to ask to make appointment as i never got round to emailing him today with all thats happened. I just need solid details which im getting so i can give him facts thank u x & i think it is jim dowd but im just going to talk to other guy as seamed interested & willing to help

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2016-10-03 19:23 Unknown

Thank you all so much its even more upsetting to see how many of you care its bringing a tear to my eyes.

Its a shame these animals can't be put down like my dog & sorry for that statement they will still tell me nothing & still say its not her? Cruel & wicked :0(

2016-10-03 19:23 Millys Mum

Steps - make sure that you don't forget to update Cllr Peter Fookes because he definitely needs to know what's going on at the Council he represents (albeit that it's a Conservative run Council). Often Ward Councillors hold regular 'advice surgeries' where hopefully you can speak with him face to face. Also, I presume your MP is Col Bob Stewart and so he also (as far as I know) holds advice surgeries at the Beckenham Conservative Constituency office in Rectory Road close to Beckenham Junction station / the tram stop / Marks & Spencer. I recall that the constituency boundaries changed a few years ago and your road may be served by Jim Dowd, MP (think that's his name). Fight for the good name of your beautiful girl.

2016-10-03 19:02 Hollieberry

I am so sorry for Uby she did nothing wrong ,I could see by her eyes there was no malice in her .Such a shame I am so sorry Steps .

2016-10-03 18:36 Unknown

So very sorry to read this sad news
Sincere condolences to the owner.
Run Free at the Bridge Gorgeous Uby until the time comes when you are reunited with those who love you so very much, never again to be parted

2016-10-03 18:05 Millys Mum

Oh Steps, I'm so very sorry to hear this awful news. Like others have said, please don't blame yourself. You did all you could. It was the Council and SDK (or whoever made the decision to put your beautiful girl to sleep) who are to blame and NOT you. I feel so angry on your and Uby's behalf. If you are able and feeling strong enough, please take this further, if only to stop this happening to other dogs. May Uby rest in peace. Thinking of you.

2016-10-03 17:53 Unknown

Sorry im just tired & para over thinking like its a conspiracy :0I it says reunited 3rd Oct..

sorry didn't mean to question anyone im sorry & im greatful for the help! I cant get my head round the way myself & uby have been treated! God bless u guys & god bless uby x

2016-10-03 17:19 DogLostAngus

I don't think the date are changing - registered date is when this dog was listed as found the reunited date is when changed over to the rainbow bridge - very sad story -i am very sorry for your loss Steps

- the lost page that the owner listed is here http://www.doglost.co.uk/dog-blog.php?dogId=105299

2016-10-03 16:48 ClaireC

Maybe our fault and date is in wrong part and should be in another place as when we were notified! IT IS AN ADMIN ERROR.Sincere apologies for our error. If youur fone is displayng incorrect date then you need to turn off and then it should reset to correct dates!

Last edited: 2016-10-03 17:17:13 by ClaireC

2016-10-03 16:21 Unknown

. Starting to feel like im just being messed about here aswell :0(

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2016-10-03 16:21 Unknown

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2016-10-03 16:21 Unknown

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2016-10-03 16:21 Unknown

Why is the dates & details now changing on here? She was found on 17th September now its changed to 3rd October? Why?

2016-10-03 15:35 Skywalker99

No Steps it is not your fault, you must be devastated at the moment but it is not your fault. You did everything you should have done to find her.

2016-10-03 15:27 Unknown

Steps. No! It is not your fault You must mot feel that way

2016-10-03 15:10 Tracey Freddies mum

My god ,this is just so cruel
Fight for her rights and find out wh is responsilble
for this dear girl
disgraceful,shame on them
beautiful girl x my thoughts are with her owner x

2016-10-03 15:09 JANI

so very sad "run free now sweetie" x

2016-10-03 15:04 Captain

I am so very, very sorry Steps. What has happened is appalling. Keeping you and your beautiful girl in my thoughts and prayers. Run free little one, God Bless xx

2016-10-03 14:27 Unknown

Had no right to do it & to be so disrespectful :0( feel kinda lost as this isn't spose to happen? I can't feel anything just bit numb n spaced out! Thanks for the help & support i hope there is action i can take. I have nothing now & way she's been treated is disgusting. It my fault feel cold its really upsetting

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2016-10-03 12:57 Skywalker99

So very sorry...so unfair.

2016-10-03 12:55 DogLostreggiemollieros

Am devastated for you Steps xx

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2016-10-03 12:53 ClaireC

PLEASE LEAVE MESSAGES OF SYMPATHETIC NATURE. CRITICAL WILL NOT HELP AT THIS TIME AND NOT A FORUM! You may all be angry as we are as well!

2016-10-03 12:37 Unknown

So sorry. My deepest sympthy to her owner. Nightie, night. sleep tight, and have fun at the bridge where no one can hurt you. Nightie, night, sleep tight, and have fun at the bridge with your aty when pals, RIP+ God Blessx A~~~Candle~~~~burns for you sweet girl. One day when the time is righ you will be reunited with your girl and cross the bridge together; never to be parted. She is still with you in spirit, and thoughts. You ,may feel her presence still which will give you comfort.

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2016-10-03 11:59 ClaireC

Steps and I have just held a long conversation and I have given advice to try to speak to Solicitor to gain further information as to why his dog was sadly put to sleep. I would hope that as Steps has and still is so very confused as to what to do as he is obviously upset that people just offer their sympathies and not critical comments offered! RIP beautiful girl xx

2016-10-03 11:55 Mel

Poor Baby, It makes me actually feel ill with such an injustice, so sorry 😢 xxx

2016-10-03 11:49 Unknown

I reluctantly shall put her into the blue. So unfair. X

2016-10-03 11:47 DogLostNicky - Area Co-ordinator London, Home Counties & Police Liaison

Oh I am SO sorry Steps. I have been following and hoping. Thinking of you

2016-10-03 11:46 Mallory'smum

How very very sad.

2016-10-03 11:46 Unknown

So sorry to hear about your girl. Hopefully you will get answers. Fly high girl xxx

2016-10-03 11:29 DogLostSandra Watt

Oh dear Steps, I am so sorry for your loss. Shame they left you all over this weekend without letting you know. You have a lot of evidence to prove their wrongdoings ! I dont know your personal circumstances, but if it was me, I would take them through the courts and make them pay.

2016-10-03 11:19 Unknown

She's been put down :0( Mcgowen told lady at Battersea on friday but when she said are you going to tell owner he was rude to her & more or less said he's not telling me nothing. They've not followed a single procedure not informed Battersea like they should have Battersea have had issues with Bromley in past & have made complaints about it. Double standards, lies & minipulation yes & dishonesty. Bunch of scumbags

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2016-10-03 11:18 ClaireC

Steps please can you text me your contact phone no to 07887652916

2016-10-03 10:51 Unknown

Steps...

You would be able to go into the council offices and ask to see the stray dog register as this is public information, this should give details about what has happened to her and where she is.

2016-10-03 09:50 Unknown

Gilly or Claire

Need bit of info in relation to LBB post for my lost dog. I've seen the email you sent. Was there a picture or was it just a written post that they listed? Question as if case Mcgowen had no right to question when i stated it was my dog!by saying my picture isn't clear if they didn't have one of there own!? & even one posted by finder isn't clear but i can tell its her

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2016-10-03 08:49 Unknown

Contacted peter fookes have to email him some details & he said he'd look in to it :0)

I'm all over the place. I might have made a mistake this morning by leaving message on woodlands telephone machine!? Just said im looking for a missing tan & white dog didn't go in to it but left my number. Lets see what comes of it!

2016-10-02 21:40 Bo

It's the contractor according to this http://cds.bromley.gov.uk/documents/s50029069/Dog%20Kennelling.pdf

2016-10-02 20:46 Millys Mum

We are also unfortunate enough to also live in the London Borough of Bromley. I'm aware of some of the Council's employees but, I'm pleased to say I've never come across Jim McGowan and, as for him being Head of Environmental PROTECTION...is that some sort of sick joke? I do hope it turns out to be 'just' a communication problem (which they are very good at) and that this gorgeous and sweet girl will be located languishing in a holding kennel. I really do think you need to contact one of the Councillors because they are in office to represent residents in their Wards and they should be able to get to the truth. Steps, you were right not to leave a message with Woodlands because, as you so rightly say, it will only give them a chance to liaise with SDK and the Council. I do hope that tomorrow brings about some good news. Afterall, someone knows the truth about what has happened. Keeping everything crossed for you.

2016-10-02 20:34 Skywalker99

Do hope there will be a doglost cord tomorrow who can help steps.

2016-10-02 16:19 Unknown

Thank you jayelle :0)

mr Mcgowen has already tried to say i'd not mentioned this fact when it was one of the first things i told SDK about. I told him if they haven't made notes then its down to there poor service & he's just as bad!


Gilly thanks for that comment now all i need is to find out whos at fault & if & whos in charge of this matter Mcgowen or sharon barrow of sdk :0( but them two are just passing buck back n forth.

2016-10-02 14:58 BorderCol

How can there be any argument over identifying her when she has a 6" operation scar on her rear hind leg?

2016-10-02 14:41 Unknown

Got them thank you x Monday tomorrow starts all over again. Have hospital appointment. Need to go battersea to see what Mcgowen has said to them after what he said on friday. Their not impressed but they can't do much! If it wasn't for them i'd still be none the wiser. If it wasn't for them i'd still not know & they would be getting away with it.

2016-10-02 13:58 Unknown

For the record SDK do not have the authority to make the decision to pts. If this sadly has happened the council would have to pay for this to be performed so they would definitely know. Hoping this isn't the case. Steps I have e mailed you a couple of times x

2016-10-02 12:11 Unknown

Millys mum i will call them to see if they can help first thing in the morning thank you

2016-10-02 12:06 Unknown

Hi skywalker mate yes contacted DDA a nice lady i spoke to is trying to help :0) bromley & sdk think their smart & trying to be clever. They are ignoring what i think but i no thats my dog!

Thanks again claire & gilly

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2016-10-02 10:15 Skywalker99

hmm...Bromley council sound like all heart and empathy. It should not be difficult to tell Steps what happened to dog reference lbb170916-0903, and isn't the owner the best person to know their dog?
Have you phoned Ddaw steps? Doesn't matter what you think, it is what Bromley council and SDK think that is important at the moment. Thanks for making me laugh by coming up with something that SDK could stand for.

2016-10-02 09:49 Unknown

Have e mailed details to you Steps.

2016-10-02 07:53 ClaireC

Steps ive emailed GillyP re your request

2016-10-02 07:02 Unknown

I hope i'm wrong she's not a status dog she my house pet like my child but bit scatty :0) Does she even look dangerous lol & pls the person who found her. Are you in chat?


& yes i was in hospital but i called SDK from the hospital bed 3 days after she went & told them what she looked like & next day sent them the picture. Its a women manager that i was in contact with right from the start & she lied from the outset!

2016-10-02 06:52 Unknown

Thanks reggie, claire, skywalker & all the others trying to help i'm greatful pls don't think otherwise :0) Gillyp can you send me sdk original listing info pls.

How much will it cost to sue these uncaring animals. Wheldon law never called me back friday!


all they keep saying is pictures are not clear, its this posted picture that not clear as cant see white chest! BUT the marking on her nose white little skin patch you can see its the same? Mcgowen still insists HE doesn't think its my dog giving both of us no chance.

I tried calling Kennel number one of you guys left but nobody picked up & if they have murdered her didn't want to leave message to give them the chance to make up more excuses! I don't drive or i'd be there. This now 2 weeks is making me a little unwell. I feel quite bad i let her down big time

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2016-10-02 06:38 Unknown

Not given up needed to rest :0) just can't deal with the lies Mcgowen call friday made accusation about my dog being emaciated & just went round the houses said he'd call back after speaking to Sadistic Dog Killers & didn't. I left him a message telling him he has blood on his hands he couldn't care less they killed her lied to me all along! I hope i'm wrong about it but no news isn't good news! DONT EVER HAND A DOG IN TO SDK IF YOU HAVE TIME TAKE IT TO BATTERSEA

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2016-09-30 21:14 Millys Mum

Just had another thought, especially with the weekend upon us. I presume Steps lives in the Penge & Cator Ward and so call the Ward Councillors: Kathy Bance - 07943 062 569, Kevin Brookes - 07710 386 929 & Peter Fookes who lives in nearby Beckenham and who has been a Ward Councillor for many years - 020 8658 7498. At least one of them should be contactable over the weekend. Steps please remain hopeful as there is still hope. Penge & Cator is a Labour run Ward, not that it should make any difference. Please, please don't give up on this precious girl.

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2016-09-30 20:12 Millys Mum

Just the most awful and sad story. Has anyone called Woodlands Kennels (01732 462 216) or dropped by their kennels. They are open tomorrow but closed on a Sunday, as far as I know. But they are absolutely atrocious at returning phone calls, unless it's to book in to their kennels! And, as far as the London Borough of Bromley are concerned.... just useless. Cut backs after cutbacks and virtually impossible to speak to anybody. They all hide behind their answerphones.

2016-09-30 19:52 Campion3

Thank you ClaireC. There are times when people just need practical help. Knowing that someone else will pick up the phone and fight your corner must be a tremendous relief as it is difficult to function when emotionally overwhelmed. Such a sad situation.

2016-09-30 19:11 ClaireC

I have asked admin if a doglost Coord could take this up on behalf of Steps to try to find out what has happened to his dog.

2016-09-30 18:16 Skywalker99

Sorry Steps, people feel upset and angry on your behalf which is why they have commented so much. Please phone DDA watch, they can help in ways a solicitor can't. Their website is www.ddawatch.co.uk. Gillyp has proof that they had her now so they can not deny responsibility. I hope after some sleep you will want to carry on trying to find her.

2016-09-30 18:14 BorderCol

Lots of helpful advice and info has been given but Steps has been in hospital. Carrying it out may be all too much for someone who has been, and might still be, unwell .For an owner who was unaware of chipping requirements and lost dog websites, then trying to get through all this minefield must be next to impossible. Is there any way to help make all this happen from afar?

2016-09-30 18:14 BorderCol

Lots of helpful advice and info has been given but Steps has been in hospital. Carrying it out may be all too much for someone who has been, and might still be, unwell .For an owner who was unaware of chipping requirements and lost dog websites, then trying to get through all this minefield must be next to impossible. Is there any way to help make all this happen from afar?

2016-09-30 17:52 DogLostSandra Watt

Steps - I really feel for you, you have been treated appallingly by SDK and Bromley - don't let them get away with it! Please contact DDA, Weldon Law or even try the Woodlands kennel (maybe they will be more sympathetic and hold better records for the dogs in their care).

2016-09-30 17:48 DogLostreggiemollieros

Sorry Steps it must be over whelming.
I wont comment any more but if I get any info I will email it to admin@doglost.

2016-09-30 17:20 Unknown

Don't give up your girl needs you to fight for her. I have now got the original listing details by SDK.

2016-09-30 17:07 Unknown

I give up & leave you all to it

2016-09-30 16:18 DogLostreggiemollieros

It might have more clout if it comes from Doglost email address.
Mine tends to end up in Spam.

2016-09-30 15:56 Skywalker99

NickB - I thonk Bromley Council/SDK had enough information to reunite this dog with or without a microchip. They just didn't bother.I have a bad feeling about what has happened to her, suggest owner tries ringing woodlands kennels.
also...if anyone googles 'Jim McGowan contact Bromley' they should get several hits with his work email address if anyone wants to try and intervene on Steps behalf.

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2016-09-30 15:45 Unknown

Mmmm. She has dropped off the SDK page although another I listed on the 17th has not.

2016-09-30 15:41 Unknown

NickyB once again please keep your thoughts about chipping and tagging to yourself. It's hard enough for owners of lost dogs as it is.

2016-09-30 15:34 Unknown

NickyB should keep negative comments to themselves plenty of people have not realised the new micro chip laws & regardless of chip or not she was handed in same day she went missing thanks :0( being messed about by SDK & local dog wardon has nothing to do with a chip & hope she's ok & i still am none the wiser

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2016-09-30 15:23 Skywalker99

apparently Bromley use woodlands kennels in chevening

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/holding_kennels_for_stray_dogs_207

http://www.woodlands-petcare.co.uk/

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2016-09-30 15:20 Skywalker99

does that mean you have spoken to them Claire?
Need to contact Jim McGowan again and ask him why his dog warden can't match Steps description to found dog LBB-170916-0930 (I guess steps don't have this reference forst time). Ask what other information should have been provided to enable his dog warden to make the match and why his dog warden did not direct Steps to look at www.lostdogsuk.co.uk. His current reply just outlines their process and says his warden was trying to be helpful.

2016-09-30 15:08 ClaireC

BBC local news team to Bromley may well make contact with Council!

2016-09-30 15:06 DogLostreggiemollieros

Sorry Steps missed your question
statusdogs@met.police.uk is the email address I used.
Is the one they guve out on their phone line as they can't guarantee to answer all calls.

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2016-09-30 14:53 DogLostreggiemollieros

NickyB Beats was chipped and up to date and held by Met Police who did not contact owner so althougjh it improves your chances it is not foolproof. Beats is on Doglost safe as far as we lnow but not home yet. A local policeman helped get the info for us but was not simple.
It really worries me how many dogs slip through the net.

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2016-09-30 14:48 DogLostreggiemollieros

I am so glad GillyP put the reference number as it is decent proof of SDK having her plus this whole page too.
Personally I would ask DDA Watch to contact Jim McGowan - Bromley coumcil.
Scroll down to where Steps copy pasted the letter Jim McGowan sent to Steps.
I have contacted him but have no power.

2016-09-30 14:45 NickyB

i hope the microchip law is making dog owners realise how important is - so their dogs can be identified and reunited. here we have yet another dog whose future looks very uncertain - i do hope there is a happy ending

2016-09-30 14:40 Seeks

Steps please ring DDAW

They do this kind of thing extremely well and sadly far too often....

Get in touch with them and they will help you find out If this is your baby and what is happening.

Please ring them xx

Their numbers are 0844 844 0802, 0844 844 2900, 0844 844 2990,

2016-09-30 14:35 ClaireC

If this were my dog and without doglost badge i personally would be introducing a National newspaper such asThe Sun as they like to highlight problems or Panorama and local MP to either your home area or Bromley Constituency and certainly tellCouncil officer and SDK as nobody wants negative publicity! Tell them this is what you propose to do. Remember its Fri afternoon and no doubt Council.will finish early!

Last edited: 2016-09-30 14:37:52 by ClaireC

2016-09-30 14:17 Skywalker99

I would phone DDA as Seeks advised...they may be able to act quicker than wheldon law...
I think Chief executive of SDK may be called John Davison, I would guess his email would be something like john.davison@sdkenvironmental.com, or jdavison.sdkenvironmental.com. I sincerely hope they do not have a contract with Bromley that makes it 'beneficial' to them to destroy dogs.
You need to tell DDA you lost your dog, it was picked up, SDK branded it 'type', you told Bromley council and sdk and gave them full description and that they denied having her despite her being listed on their lost dog website which they didn't bother telling you about. DDA have links with the authorities they may be able to find out what happened.
I assume she was listed on the SDK lost dog website and Gillyp didn't just conjure her picture and details from the ether.
The fact that sdk use a number of holdig kennels makes it difficult to follow doglost advice to visit the kennels.....

2016-09-30 13:58 ClaireC

Deedee that maybe one of the problems as not sure which holding kennel dog was taken to and then which vet service they use!

2016-09-30 13:46 deedee15

I am wondering if at all possible, someone could find out which vets SDK use. They must have a vet service in case a dog falls ill, whilst in their kennels. Once the vet can be found, the owner could contact them and ask them questions, and see if he can find answers from them.

2016-09-30 13:45 DogLostSandra Watt

Steps - suggest you call Weldon Law again now (I know you are waiting for call back), explain that it is Friday and everyone will be closed for weekend - you are very worried that your dog has been destroyed and need to know one way or other - beg for help TODAY. Then deal with the aftermath and take action against Bromley and SDK.

2016-09-30 13:33 Unknown

Reggie ive not heard from police about status dogs issue. Who did u contact pls. This is BS they don't have the right to act like this.

2016-09-30 13:30 Unknown

Battersea have details reggie sdk have washed there hands & just sending people back to local dog wardon!? I have feeling police wont help saying it civil matter but my dogs stolen vanished! & could be murdered

2016-09-30 13:11 DogLostSandra Watt

I think it is absolutely shocking what this obviously caring owner is going through to get his precious dog back - and time is of the essence ! It would be great if somebody at SDK would take ownership and sort this out !

2016-09-30 13:07 DogLostreggiemollieros

Steps make sure you have the ID number for SDK when you speak to Battersea and anyone else as they will need it in order to speak to Bromley council.
Bromley counciil can't wriggle out of this as that reference is proof. Or direct them to this page.
Sorry for repeating myself but I don't want them to get away with fobbing you off.
LBB-170916-0930

Last edited: 2016-09-30 13:11:25 by reggiemollieros

2016-09-30 12:34 Unknown

Thanks reggie. She cant just vanish! Ive made it clear from day 1 what she looks like & that shes mine im not getting nowhere

2016-09-30 12:33 Unknown

Blue cross say cant help call weldon law & await call back! Battersea are trying to find out also whats happening. Im on way to police station to report this & will call other numbers given!?

2016-09-30 11:48 DogLostreggiemollieros

Status dogs at Met police emailed to say pretty certain they do not have this dog.
I have left a message for Bromley Council quoting SDK reference. If they get back to me will let you know.
Maybe Blue Cross will have access to a lawyer?
I do hope so.

2016-09-30 11:24 Skywalker99

agreed...needs professional help.
I think if this were my dog once I had established what had happened - or just not been able to get past the blockers - I would be very tempted to take action against Bromley Council and SDK provided I could prove that they had information that should have enabled them to identify my dog or tell me they had a possible match within the 7 days. Beyond me why they can't email owners pictures of possible matches or tell them to look on the sdk lost dogs website (how much effort does that take?). unfortunately the only thing that will get these organisations to improve is if it starts to hurt them financially. should be possible to make a claim through the small claims court (https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/overview) fees vary depending on how much you claim..and you don't need a solicitor

2016-09-30 10:51 DogLostreggiemollieros

Steps hope you don't mind but I tried SDK abd they stone walled me. Tried status dogs email dor Met Police byt they were unable to help said to go back to SDK who said to go to Bromley Council.
Think it needs a professional who can get past the red tape.
Make sure you quote the SDK reference at the very bottom of this page in any correspondence as the found reference is the best hope of getting info.
LBB-170916-0930
Sadly status dogs at Met police do not use same reference.

2016-09-30 10:30 Skywalker99

Steps, phone ddaw. They can help. You may also want to ring the advice line here www.doglaw.co.UK, it us a premium rate line so no big lawyers bills.

2016-09-30 09:22 DogLostSandra Watt

Can someone explain to Steps who DDAW are? I am not sure what they can do but hopefully they could help him. Their numbers are 0844 844 0802, 0844 844 2900, 0844 844 2990,

2016-09-30 09:15 Unknown

Skywalker i have tried now they are just dismissing me & have told me to contact Bromley & jim Mcgowan!? Just palming me off.

I've contacted rspca going to blue cross where shes registered & reporting it there & also reporting it to police & battersea dogs home. I cant do much more if im not being told anything! Will also call the numbers given to see what can be done but they have delayed me with intention of murdering my dog & they are still pretending its not her. All i get is excuses.


I can't look at this picture anymore its depression as i've not seen her look so unhappy before.

2016-09-30 08:21 Skywalker99

Steps, I think you need to speak to SDK and also speak to Ddaw as seeks advises. You need to find out what has happened to her because if she is still alive she needs help. SDK have been incompetent and negligent (I see from Uby's lost entry you gave them a full description) and you should tell them you will be taking legal advice - whether you do or not is up to you but you should tell them that.

2016-09-30 01:14 Unknown

For the last week or so they've been lying through their teeth sdk, she's been murdered they've withheld info on her with intent! They have judged her for nothing apart from their own view. Its to late she's gone & they still want to pretend they dont have her or know what im talking about :0( ive lost my dog in the worst way & they haven't re homed her they gave her no chance. I dont know what to do & where she was found is 5 minutes away from me. They knew it was her

2016-09-30 00:30 Seeks

Steps this is a nightmare for you but please contact DDAW and talk to them to....

Their numbers are 0844 844 0802, 0844 844 2900, 0844 844 2990,

If she is being held via Typing DDAW have a good working relationship with most authorities. They will support and help you all the way. What ever you do IF its a Type issue don't sign anything till you have spoken to them.

If its not a Type thing I would talk to them anyway ss the local authority had her as TBC so they think she is Type (even if she isn't)

Sadly TBC and Confirmed Type does mean they wont say where they are so that could be some of the problem..... It might not be either. Again its horribly hard to get details at times. We have rung so many Dog Wardens since Pup was stolen.... Some are fantastic, some are goog, some ok and some.....

I think your problem here is probably the TBC thing so get hold of DDAW as thats their area of total commitment and expertise.

Thinking of you as its all so hard I honestly believe fundamentally wrong xx

2016-09-29 23:20 Unknown

I don't think sdk will have her anymore. She will be with the dog status unit. Perhaps it might be worth contacting KALLIE'S owner for advice and support and the police locally.

Last edited: 2016-09-30 08:26:26

2016-09-29 21:55 DogLostreggiemollieros

Sorry I don't know. I waa hoping to see an update from Kenesha but it can take time even thougjh from the last post it seemed imminent.

2016-09-29 21:44 Skywalker99

Reggiemollieros, on a different note do you know if Beats is home yet?

2016-09-29 20:19 ClaireC

I agree reggiemollieros and Skywalker.

2016-09-29 19:59 DogLostreggiemollieros

100% agree with you Skywalker99.
I have helped at least 2 owners of chipped dogs to be reunited via here because SDK scanner did not work. It was before GillyP started helpfully adding them here.
Owners are so glad to get their dog back they rarely complain about it.
Steps it is not your fault. The system is full of flaws.
I hope you get a better response from whoever runs SDK as it seems they are hiding behind the council officials.

Last edited: 2016-09-29 20:12:40 by reggiemollieros

2016-09-29 19:44 Skywalker99

ClaireC - the problem with outsourcing is that organisations do it to save money, and it nearly always results in rigid application of rules and a loss of quality of service. steps needs to know what happened to his dog...and SDK should tell him...and even if they are poorly trained on breed recognition they have two eyes so should be able to see from photos that dogs are similar and let owners know they have a possible match.
It's not your fault Steps, it is the fault of the system and people who do not care enough about the dogs that pass through it.

Last edited: 2016-09-29 19:46:50 by Skywalker99

2016-09-29 19:34 ClaireC

Steps I do think you should still be entitled to an explanation to find out what has happened to her. What I have posted should not stop you pressing for information and you deserve an answer.

2016-09-29 19:29 Unknown

Didn't know she had to be chipped & last couple of sessions at rspca which do free chipping i missed but just found out battersea do same. Shes not gone missing before. 3 other people have dogs that look bit like mine round here & i dont think they have chips or taken away :0I

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2016-09-29 19:24 Unknown

I contacted them 3 days after she went & the delay was i'd been admitted in to hospital which i even told them! Over the last 2 weeks they done nothing but waste time not been helpful & still not being helpful. Funny how only 1 hour after being listed on lostdog shes been found & SDK have had her all along.

Shes gone isn't she :0I i luv my uby & its all my fault.

People thought i'd dumped her i bottle feed her from a baby & wiped her bum i'd never do that.

2016-09-29 19:14 ClaireC

Steps was your dog chipped?

2016-09-29 19:11 ClaireC

Skywalker SDK have various holding kennels! The point to bear in mind, that SDK staff may only have a limited amount of training and very probably will not know all the breeds! Not at all satisfactory in my opinion.

2016-09-29 19:05 ClaireC

I have just had a similar conversation with SDK on dog id found 105034 which will give an insight into how this dreadful organisation operate! Councils it would appear don't know what happens to any of the dogs after 8 days as they "drop" off their screens. They are either rehomed, unless they have been assessed by the Status Dog Unit run by Met Police, if they decide is Pit Bull then the dog is PTS after a further 8 days of an owner coming forward but only if a chip is present! If they are not classed as a banned breed they are put up for rehoming. The admin staff only have left on their screens is if the dog is reunited with owner.

2016-09-29 18:59 Skywalker99

Given how badly the system works in some areas 7 days is too short. When owner speaks to SDK he needs to tell them he will be taking legal advice

Last edited: 2016-09-29 19:01:33 by Skywalker99

2016-09-29 18:55 Skywalker99

Anyone know where SDK take dogs from this area? 0/10 to Jim McCowan for sensitivity, (we don't think we had your dog, but if we did we may have murdered it). Just how difficult is it to cross match a description of tan staffie with a white chest? And apply a little common sense...tell the owner they have a possible match would you Luke to come and look.

2016-09-29 18:55 Campion3

Such a cold response from Mr Jim McGowan. I agree with allimac if the dog is still in kennels ownership will be obvious without a photo if the owner visits. Good luck.

2016-09-29 18:45 Unknown

I don't even know where she is :0( they've told me nothing & now sdk & bromley are just passing the buck!

2016-09-29 18:43 Unknown

See how long its even taken Bromley to reply? Disgusting :0(

2016-09-29 18:42 allimac

This sounds hideously awful!!
Can you not go to the kennels and ask to see her - if they see her go mad with recognition, they might actually react positively?

2016-09-29 18:37 Unknown

Really bad excuse & the picture is a match :0( sent today & just as bad as SDK. Look at this picture & one uploaded by Battersea you can see its same dog & same markings


As the Manager of this service, I have been passed details of your communications regarding the dog that you lost on September 16th and asked to make a decision and to reply.  The Council's policy is that any dog that is with us in kennels and remains unclaimed after 7 days is passed for re homing or euthanasia (if it is a banned breed). This would normally have happened on the 23rd September.



Having looked at the photograph you provided and the dogs that have passed through our dog warden service, I am unable to confirm from this picture,  whether any of them match your dog.  I understand that you are unable to provide any further photographs of your dog and therefore I would have to say that the Council does not have your dog in its kennels.



With regard to the various emails from the dog warden, she was trying to help you with regard to dogs that were lost over a week ago and may have been rehomed or put to sleep by the Council; she was most definitely not trying to waste your time and was trying to glean information that may help you to locate your dog.



If you are able to provide further photographs of your dog, we may be able to identify it and let you know if it has passed through the Bromley Dog Warden Service.   Failing that, we are unable to help further.





Jim McGowan

Head of Environmental Protection| Environment and Community services

London Borough of Bromley

Tel:  0208 313 4651

www.bromley.gov.uk

Last edited: 2016-09-29 18:40:48

2016-09-29 18:14 DogLostOwl

Thanks Jayne, had just picked up the phone to call you.

2016-09-29 18:13 DogLostOwl

I am out of the area and have no knowledge of SDK so have posted a request for help on the co-ordinators' forum.

2016-09-29 18:09 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Have spoken to owner...please see thread that Battersea put on today for his dog UBY on doglost. Have advised him to call Battersea again tomorrow...And I will attempt to get hold of Tara the dog warden and |Gillyp.

2016-09-29 18:08 Unknown

Called doglost they say SDK have a habbit of not being paticularly helpful to people when dogs been found!? First thing i'm going back to Battersea dogs home to tell them whats happening & will contact blue cross where shes registered! I can't believe they have had her since 17 same day she went & haven't told me? Thank god for this web site & Battersea

2016-09-29 18:03 deedee15

Can anyone please help Steps.they are going put of their mind with worry. Thank you. Should I advise them to contact DDA and Wheldon law? I have no idea how SDK works. So can't advise them

2016-09-29 17:45 Unknown

Im have called no help at all from SDK 10 days ago took them 7 days to call & still given no details on missing dog or if she was found just brushed off bromley the same. Shes a house pet not a bad bone in her body! Now im worried about what you people have been talking about. Nobodys returning my calls which is frustrating & making me angry as its been over 2 weeks & by looks of it they knew she had been found!?

2016-09-29 17:40 Skywalker99

owner probably needs help urgently from doglost and someone who knows how sdk work

2016-09-29 17:27 DogLostSandra Watt

Steps did you call SDK on 03444828300 quoting reference LBB-170916-0930 as the message below on 17th September from Gilly?

2016-09-29 17:24 Skywalker99

Think owner needs to phone Doglost and ask for help...and maybe ring www.doglaw.co.uk

2016-09-29 17:20 Unknown

Please help me get her back she's as good as gold & i've had her since she was born! I have tried to find her have now even had posters printed by battersea only people that have helped me. I hope shes ok & thank you soooooo much for contacting me today


Deedee15 xx

2016-09-29 17:15 Unknown

Yes she's my dog & reason she had no coller on was she had just been washed & slipped out when i put bin out! Sdk are useless & im having nothing but problems with them & won't even give me any details. I was beginning to think the worst or that she'd been stolen! I reported her to SDK 10 days ago & they couldn't even be bothered to say if a dog or any dog that looked like her had been handed in & Bromley pest control have been the same. Useless & wasted my time only people that have helped has been Battersea dogs home who helped me today with this lostdog website

2016-09-29 15:15 Seeks

Please keep us posted DeeDee ...

The ears are at the right angle, the feet look right not sure about the head or markings on her head... Let hope though xx

2016-09-29 14:42 deedee15

I have spoken to the owner of doglost 105299, and have passed on the contact details. Fingers crossed it is her, and she returns home. Will update if the owner contacts me.

2016-09-29 14:15 deedee15

Could this be 105299? Lost on same day she was found, and in same area. Any updates on this girl.

2016-09-27 07:48 ClaireC

Thanks Seeks

2016-09-27 00:48 Seeks

NickyB I do a lot of sharing for the Poundies and promise you that although last year just over 126,000 dogs (know ones that is) were left unclaimed in UK pounds all but 10,000 found rescue space....

I know its still a huge and unacceptable amount but its a huge tribute ti UK Rescues so many got a chance.

The sad fact is that relentless indiscriminate breeding is a real problem now a days....We have a sub breed of dogs basically the poor mites born to die. I find it so sad, in fact deeply upsetting, yet there are worst things than death and some of the poor mites ....

Its the poor Staffy and Staffy crosses that take the brunt but I shared a ESS on death row as well as several other breeds you would expect to be claimed. UK Rescue is in or close to crisis yet they all still step in so often.

Because UK Rescue is so good most get out of the pounds......This baby.... she has 2 things against her just now .... Lets just hope xx

2016-09-27 00:32 Seeks

She needs her owner fast bless her.... Mind this is not a Type dog but it wont matter if she is an unclaimed stray.....

Will send her details to a couple of people who might be able to help though IF Typed the law is so restrictive.....

Meant to say sadly NOT Dee though thanks to the folk who have passed her on in hope xx

Last edited: 2016-09-27 00:33:12 by Seeks

2016-09-24 17:34 NickyB

found 17 september now 7 days later and still not claimed........... no id tag no microchip - surely not yet another abandoned dog?

2016-09-24 10:59 ClaireC

Thanks deedee.

2016-09-24 09:35 deedee15

Hi guys I have spoken to the owner of the missing tan staff in Sydenham, and they have found their dog. So it isn't looking too good for this poor girl. I hope her owners are found.

2016-09-23 12:06 Unknown

Have e mailed deedee15 to see if any news

2016-09-22 18:58 Hollieberry

Any news please ?

2016-09-22 06:56 ClaireC

Thanks Deedee

2016-09-21 23:05 deedee15

There is a poster up in Sydenham high street saying lost tan staff. I will go back down there tomorrow, and call the number. Hopefully she is the one, and the owner can collect her. I will update again once I have spoken to them.

2016-09-20 15:31 NickyB

following the mssgs for this dog - no owner has appeared yet........ keeping fingers and everything else crossed she will be in the reunited page any day soon.

2016-09-19 12:00 Mel

She looks full of love, you can tell by her eyes I think. Hope I don't come back as a Staffy, don't stand a chance 😢, Good luck to this little one, x

2016-09-19 10:34 Mallory'smum

Would it hurt SDK to give the poor dog the benefit of the doubt for once and not condemn them straight away with their stock phrase "breed to be determined". This dog looks a beauty.

2016-09-18 23:03 JANI

s/dogsfounduk x

2016-09-18 22:48 Unknown

Ditto Claire. We don't know circumstances. As said before mine does not have a collar on at home. Chips move not all that scan do the whole body. Hopefully this girl will be ok.

2016-09-18 19:21 ClaireC

NickyB in an ideal world every dog will have a chip and wear a collar but very sadly we dont all live in that world! Yes, sometimes people dump their dogs knowing there is no chip or collar with id! This may or may not be one! I most sincerelt hope that there is an owner don't get me wrong. If they are allowed their dog back then they will be forced to have a chip in place!

2016-09-18 15:49 NickyB

yet another found dog without a collar and tag or chip - what happens to all these poor dogs? one of the best things about doglost.co.uk is if you note the unique i.d doglost number you can follow her journey. hope its a happy ending

2016-09-18 07:14 charlie and sooty

Shared with hope that owner is found x

2016-09-17 19:36 Hollieberry

I fear for this poor girl she has such kind hopeful eyes .This stupid law that we all have to obey .

2016-09-17 19:00 Unknown

Hope owner is found soon. she look so sad, and lost. Paws xd.

2016-09-17 16:36 Unknown

Please note, that if your dog is not chipped you have 21 days from the date you claim your dog to get it chipped otherwise you could incur a £500.00 fine.

https://www.petlog.org.uk/pet-owner/compulsory-microchipping-for-dog-owners/

2016-09-17 16:35 Unknown

This dog has been cross posted from the SDK Environmental website and has no relation to doglost. Please call 03444828300 quoting reference LBB-170916-0930

www.lostdogsuk.co.uk