Reunited: Brindle Staffordshire Bull Terrier Male

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2017-09-09 15:14 Unknown

Wonderful news for you Helen. What a kind gent to give you him back I am sure he will take on another very soon. Staffords are so hard to rehome owning to the fact there are so many in rescue every day .They do not do well in kennels as they are very needy and sadly so many are put down. you are very lucky that the kennels do not do this or he would of been lost forever. As Bobble says please get chip sorted asap if not done already. wishing you a wonderful life Mr.Bim you are one lucky dog to have not one but two People ready to cater for your needs lol xx

2017-09-06 19:12 DogLostBobble - Area Co-ordinator - Somerset & East Sussex

So pleased for original family and Mr Bim to be reunited.

Get that microchip sorted as a priority.

Sorry for the new family, but as Helen says there will be another dog out there needing a good home and by returning him they have put the dog 1st.

2017-09-06 08:28 Skywalker99

Brilliant, shame the dog warden couldn't have been more compassionate and pragmatic when Helen called on the 18th August. Worrying the dog seems to have ended up distressed in the pound.

2017-09-05 23:48 BigGSDPatlucky

Well done new owner allowing him to go home not all adopters do
Brilliant

2017-09-05 23:25 Georgy Porgy

Admire your tenacity Helen. Well done & welcome home Mr Bim

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2017-09-05 22:10 LH

Helen I'm so happy for you and Mr Bim! Your perseverance paid off. The lovely gentleman who adopted Mr Bim will hopefully go on to save another dog from a life in kennels. This has made my day! xx

2017-09-05 21:41 SimonH

Credit to you Helen - I'm glad he's back home with you, microchipped tagged and loved. He's a lucky dog.

2017-09-05 21:29 Julie Gee

Although I haven't commented before I've been following this story. Helen I'm so pleased you've got Mr Bim back home with you. Well done and respect to the gent who had adopted him and gave him back to you. Happy days ahead! x

2017-09-05 21:13 Helen

Thank you so much guys , i can't stop crying from happiness! From the bottom of my heart I wish new owner to have another dog as he deserves it!!! Honestly when you went through people without heart, it proves there are lot of us human with heart . Don't stop believe and never give up ! Love you guys , thank you so much for your support and responses ! Thank you for suggestions and your time for writing comments ! Thank you you do a great job!!!

2017-09-05 21:09 Helen

One of the happiest sights in the world comes when a lost dog is reunited with a master he loves. You just haven't seen joy till you have seen that.

2017-09-05 21:09 Campion3

Wonderful news. Hope the gent finds another dog who doesn't have a home very soon.

2017-09-05 21:02 DogLostMillypod (Chris) - Administrative Volunteer

Aww Great news :) Welcome home MR BIM.x

2017-09-05 21:00 Helen

After the dog was shipped on 18, he was rehome place and then on monday the 21, he has been re home by new owner . The new owner said that he walked on Monday and this dog was in big distressed he showed him paw band it was skin and blood to the bone after Waltham Forest kennels as confirmed by rehome place dog came in such distress that for the sake of the dog they let him go on Monday . Simon mentioned dogtrust so I call them and said that Waltham Forest kennels gave me details about the dog ( but they' didn't) by pure Luck it was the place and people again was amazing , they contacted the owner for me to give him a chance to make desicion . And the guy without hesitation called us. When we met him it was a man with heart , he said I put myself in your shoes. So we compensate re home place and the new owner and I wish him best of luck to find the dog . As he is a real dog lover . That's basically the end of the story. Happy end . Never give up ! Never if you love someone follow your heart! MR BIM is with us and his mum!!'

2017-09-05 20:52 Helen

Thank you Mary, all done l. Chipped on details and lesson been learnt! The new owners was amazing people, big heart people and god knows what could have happened .

2017-09-05 20:25 Mary

Very pleased you have got MR BIM back. Well done to the lovely new owners for giving him up so unselfishly. I hope they are soon matched with another loving dog needing a good home. Helen make sure you update the microchip with your details and get a new tag for him with your name and telephone number on, so you can be contacted should MR BIM ever go missing again.

2017-09-05 19:32 Helen

The moral of the story : There is people with big heart on earth , like owner who despite the love to our dog called us!! And there is people without hearts! But the Love raise , will always win ! Will post photo later !!! Thank you everyone for your comments and help

2017-09-05 19:32 DogLostSandra Watt

OMG Helen - how wonderful - you really deserve to have him back with you - after your hard fought fight. Please let us know what happened. Welcome home to your family MR BIM :)

2017-09-05 19:29 Helen

I have got my dog, he's name is MR BIM! We always call him MR BIM!! We are reunited !! He is with us, new chapter of life!!

2017-09-05 19:27 Helen

Dear everyone , when you love someone don't ever let them go, fight to the end!!

2017-09-05 15:58 SimonH

You'd have to ask the owner Helen who made that statement or the DW / pound involved yourselves their rehome policy - Every council / dog pound is different.

Last edited: 2017-09-05 15:58:48 by SimonH

2017-09-05 13:33 Skywalker99

I know Doglost can't help but I would like SimonH to clarify something for me...do Waltham Forest rehome direct from the pound rather than via a rescue? Because I am struggling to understand how the warden knows it was rehomed to an OAP. Probably just ignorance of the system on my part but I would like to understand.

2017-09-05 11:18 DogLostCJ - Police Liaison & SE Regional Coordinator

This dog will be taken to unknown after today as there is nothing we can be do to help as this dog went through the system as a found dog.

2017-09-04 18:43 Unknown

Ok. We cannot help. The council are under no obligation we know that. Sadly this is an all too familiar occurrence. Lessons to be learnt regarding chips and tags. Sad situation and I cannot say how I would feel as my animals have up to date chips and tags and this would not happen to me. The law is the law and the kennel nor council are under any obligation to disclose information. The dog is safe, well and cared for

2017-09-04 17:10 SimonH

Skywalker99 - From what I've read the owner knows what's happened to her dog as the council appear to have told her all they legally need to - maybe you could advise as to the FOI she needs to ask? They legally don't have to reveal the kennel the dog went to - check it out it's on line for you to find - took me 30 seconds ...

2017-09-04 17:05 Skywalker99

Simon, Helen must explore all avenues to find out what happened to her dog, and that includes an FOI, and best to do this in parallel with the talking to people nicely approach. It also means the council have to do some actual work rather than fobbing off on the phone.

Last edited: 2017-09-04 17:05:44 by Skywalker99

2017-09-04 15:46 Helen

More to this story I was there when his mother dog gave birth , I was there from his first breath , from the moment he was born. And he lived with his mum all his life , and We loved him dearly for 8 years. It shows you the Waltham Forest counsel team , must handle their notice as there is no love and compassion to the animals or humans . They could at least said the rehome place to give us a chance to rehome back our dog, I will go to the top make sure that people would never deal with animals . The acted awfully and rudely. It must be law against cruelty against them too.

2017-09-04 15:09 Helen

Each and every animal on earth has as much right to be just like you and me!!! For me A house or an apartment becomes a home when you add one set of four legs, a happy tail, and that indescribable measures of LOVE that you call a DOG!!! DOG is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself ! And I want my dog back I am sure as much as he wants me !!!

2017-09-04 15:03 Helen

Dear Simon, I will go to the end and I will get my dog back. I will post our happy reunion shortly! And I will prove to you that Love always win even if the law against it. Law that against Love and Wellfare of the animal and humans . What law is that?

2017-09-04 14:31 Helen

As we had amazing 8 years together and we want him to be with us !!! What I will never understand how the law can be against Love and humanity? Rapist murders , killers don't get destroyed after 7 days. And poor animal by circumstances got 7 days. We all know animals got biggest heart on Earth, they love us as we are. They so much better than humang being and they don't deserve that 7 days law.

2017-09-04 14:12 Helen

Guys, I have found the rehome place and ask the people to explain everything to the new owner . The hope still with us that the owner will understand and reunite us. If he is a real dog lover he should think about the dog first, where it will be best for him.

2017-09-04 09:49 LH

Helen I agree with you. Legal jargon, rules, policies and jobs-worths aside, there is a "human" element to this! There must be exceptions to the rule?? Staffies have a hard time as it is, yet this one has a loving family who want him back and through bureaucracy can't have him. Yes, the council might have re-homed the dog in a satisfactory manner, by the book, but this case should deserve a review. I don't know how Helen is coping - I know I wouldn't cope at all.

2017-09-04 08:36 Helen

It's stinks and stinks a lot! Whatever way you look and bring up the law. People we are humang being and animal had a life with owners . Counsel send us email that dog been rehomed in corecct satisfying manner.

2017-09-04 08:33 Helen

Simon, you have met my dog? Right? It's a strong, big , powerful stuff! The new home he went to - its old pension. Is my dog right mach? Did they find the right owner?may be pool old man doesn't realise how strong is the dog? Dog is in distress it will be different dog .

2017-09-04 08:30 Helen

Thank you guys from all my family . If people concearn about dig qekk being , I am sure he will be better with his owners , he spent 8 years with us. And council dog team should give us a chance to rehome my dog.

2017-09-04 07:18 SimonH

Good luck Helen - the law isn't on your side but skywalker99 thinks you will get somewhere with FOI's and Lawyers - I sadly don't.

2017-09-03 23:30 Skywalker99

An FOI would achieve the facts, how do you know he is still alive, how would the dog warden know he has gone to an OAp? Do the council rehome direct? It appears he was still with the warden on the 18th, the day Helen phoned, he wasn't 'rehiomed' until 21st, plenty of time for the dog warden to apply common sense and let him go home. Are you saying Helen should give up on her dog? I am sure a lawyer would tell her to submit an FOI.

2017-09-03 19:27 SimonH

Skywalker99, the councils do sometimes work closely with rescues and rehoming - I've been to the pound in E4 and collected dogs to take to rescue albeit not in the last year. I doubt anything dodgy is afoot - we are talking about an 8 year old entire male brindle staffie - the hardest dogs to place in rescue and rehome as there are so many of them. To Helens credit the dog is described as very dog friendly and lovely natured - probably why he's still alive. What would a FOI achieve? We know the dog was found early morning on the 10th and on the 18th he belonged to the council - the new home details are Data Protected. I'd suggest contact All dog matters Helen and speak nicely to their staff.

2017-09-03 19:23 Skywalker99

here are details of how to submit an FOI request https://www.walthamforest.gov.uk/content/make-freedom-information-request

2017-09-03 19:00 Skywalker99

I have just looked at that Facebook post, it says the council normally rehome via All Dogs Matter, Helen should contact them. http://alldogsmatter.co.uk/
Once a dog has gone to rescue how would the council know (or even care) who it is rehomed to, so why would the warden tell Helen it has gone to a pensioner unless something dodgy is afoot?
Suggest Helen joins the group and comments on the original post to say what has happened. OP says still with wardens on the 18th, so if Helen phoned on the 18th warden could have been sensible.

Last edited: 2017-09-03 19:04:20 by Skywalker99

2017-09-03 18:55 Skywalker99

Helen needs to do a freedom of information request, and share her dogs details on facebook as much as possible too.

Last edited: 2017-09-03 19:08:26 by Skywalker99

2017-09-03 18:54 Skywalker99

SimonH, if Helen had been trying to contact the dogwarden (as it says in previous posts) and they did not respond then I think they have done wrong....
Helen, this rescue does a lot of staffies might be worth contacting them http://www.rescueremedies.co.uk/

2017-09-03 18:38 skyninchar

could this be him at babbington rescue

http://www.babbington-rescue.org.uk/rocket.ir

2017-09-03 16:50 LH

Yes I know it can be a quick turnaround - I'm a dog walker at a local rescue. It's the time between the pound and rescue space that's quick, but once they get to the rescue where I help, they have to be assessed, neutered, etc, and some dogs wait for weeks to be chosen by new owners. On a personal level for Helen being fobbed off, unable to get the truth is just awful.

2017-09-03 16:42 SimonH

LH - Decent "pound pullers" will be working from day 1 to get the stray dogs a rescue space as many pounds are so full the dogs can be PTS because there is no where else for them to go - A dog can be neutered/spayed as soon as he or she gets to rescue and be rehomed relatively quickly. The council had the dog from 10th August - he went to rescue as stated the 18th and was reserved and rehomed the 21st it seems. I don't see at any point wrong doing on the part of the council - unless the dog was microchipped and details were up to date and no letter was sent - Helen hasn't commented on that point as far as I can see.

2017-09-03 16:32 LH

It does seem very quick for a dog to be re-homed, especially if like most rescues dogs are spayed or neutered before being re-homed and most rescues do home checks too. I wouldn't leave any stone unturned until you get to the bottom of this. I can't understand people in "authority" being so unhelpful (i.e. dog warden/council) - I know there has to be rules but it's clear to me that things have gone sadly wrong in this case.

2017-09-03 16:30 SimonH

Helen - Your dog was found at 0820am on August 10th

August 10 at 8:20am · London
I found a beautiful dog up by Chingford mount cemetery about an hour ago. Lovely boy, very friendly and looks well cared for.
Took him to The Vet Waltham Forest in Highams park where he is waiting for the council dog warden to collect him.
No chip, lead or collar. Good with other dogs.
I had no other option but to call the dog warden as vets couldn't take him in but agreed to keep until he is collected as I couldn't stay with him due to work commitments.
Please if anyone can step in and help before the wardens come that would be great
This is the link https://www.facebook.com/groups/walthamforest4dogs/permalink/902770026556238/?comment_id=904795079687066&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R4%22%7D

2017-09-03 16:19 Skywalker99

Helen, write to Waltham Forest council, head the letter 'freedom of information request' and ask what their rehoming procedures are and the name of the rescues they send dogs to. I would also ask specifically what happened to your dog...it is possible they are covering up because they put him to sleep. They are obliged to give you a response within 20 days. People here can only give you advice.

2017-09-03 16:11 Helen

Anybody knows rehome dogs procedure ? Can you rehome an dog in 3 days? Assesment, castration , healing period , find the right owner?

2017-09-03 16:09 Helen

Thank you guys so much, I did ask council for the place the dog went and he stayted clearly it's their property and he won't tell anything . His secretary was very compassionate and stated the dog was shipped on 18 and on 21 he had an owner. 18 Friday , weekend No one work and 21 he had an owner . It's another story to dig in. My dog never been castrated, if you met him he was strong and powerful dog and he went to the old pension owner who is not the right owner for this dog. He requires walks min 2 a day . Thank you will try any avenue , time to engage the lawyer here as the Phil Nash ( Manadger of dog team) in awful manner told us their property and end of chart.

2017-09-03 15:45 Skywalker99

I would also make a freedom of information request to the council asking what their processes for rehoming unclaimed dogs are and which rescuers they use. The response won't be quick but I believe they are obliged to give you the information. It may also be worth contacting this group http://www.walthamforest4dogs.co.uk/about/

Last edited: 2017-09-03 15:46:24 by Skywalker99

2017-09-03 15:34 LH

If many avenues of inquiry are blocked at present, maybe if the rehoming kennels is on social media, eg facebook, then perhaps Helen or a friend could appeal for the new "owner" of her dog to make contact. Anything to help in this awful situation.

2017-09-03 15:33 Skywalker99

I know Ronmaxtye, some dog wardens are sensible and compassionate and others are just jobsworth (expletive deleted)'s. I really hope Helen has phone records showing she tried to get through before seven days was up...

2017-09-03 15:19 Unknown

I agree skywalker and i have nothing but contempt for the way lots of wardens act and i agree they are wrong in this dogs case, but there is nothing we can do, Helen must deal direct with the council not us, it is just wasting her time as there is nothing we can do for her

2017-09-03 15:11 Skywalker99

And if Helen has evidence that she tried to contact the dog warden before the 18th (and if you read the posts it says she did), then there is a real problem with the way the dog warden has acted. It can be difficult when you are out of the country to contact organisations back home (time differences, lack of Internet access).

2017-09-03 15:11 Unknown

We understand that Helen, but we did not find the dog, it was found by a member of the public who called the dog warden, the dog warden put it on here as soon as they could, we have not seen or dealt with the dog, if you look at the photo on the page it is from the dog warden service not us, we would have scanned the dog if we had picked it up and got it back to you or put it on our site or other local sites quickly, i understand your distress i lost a dog which is how i got involved with doglost so i understand what you are going through but only the council can do anything for you

2017-09-03 15:06 Skywalker99

Helen, you say you have the mother, please take her to a vet, get her chipped and get the chip registered to you. This will avoid this happening if you other dog goes missing. Chips imply work if your details are stored on the central chip database. Unfortunately the council acted within the law although I agree rehoming a dog after three days is a bit risky as behaviour has not been assessed and home checks unlikely to have been done. I also don't think it is unreasonable that if the owner comes forward and the dog has not gone to its new home (which seems to be the case here) that it should go back to its owner...better for the dog. You need to contact www.doglaw.co.uk, they have a premium rate advice line so they do not charge a fortune for an initial consultation. Good luck. If he has been rehiomed locally it may be worth an advert in the local paper...

2017-09-03 15:01 Helen

Thank you guys for your help , sorry Simon and others if I upset anyone of you. I am gutted !! Absolutely in pieces with this situation .

2017-09-03 14:59 Helen

We all got responsibilities , even as a volunteer you were supposed to share information with the owners on a day you found the dog!! Not kindly 3 days or weeks later. If you found on 11 and bit telling people how on earth can they know that Waltham Forest borough got the dog?? Not Epping not Refbridge ???

2017-09-03 14:56 Unknown

Ok people, lets calm down the conversation, Helen we are sorry about your dog but it IS the council dog warden service you need to deal with and talk to them, we are not part of their service and we are all volunteers trying to help owners as best we can, we understand there may be a problem understanding the way things work but really there is nothing we can do, you must talk direct to the council concerned, sorry but that really is all that can be done now

2017-09-03 14:35 SimonH

No one here found the dog Helen - clearly there is a language barrier. I hope you get the answers you want from the council involved - next time I suggest you put a tag on your dog and perhaps leave your dog with someone who will report the dog missing right away if the dog goes missing. You're pointing the finger at the wrong person - perhaps it's time to take responsibility yourself for what's happened .

2017-09-03 14:33 DogLostSandra Watt

Helen - we are all volunteers here and have nothing to do with Walthamforest or any dog warden. Most of us believe that the 7 days is not enough time for owners to locate their dogs but unfortunately that is the law. We do sympathise but Dog Lost cannot get your dog back. As SimonH suggested below, maybe you should take legal advice from Dog Law or someone similar. If I was in your position, I would also be fighting to get my dog back but Dog Lost is not the right place to do that.

2017-09-03 14:32 Helen

That even more interesting now ... Do you aware that that 3 days was priceless for my dog? That's wrong , found the dog register. phone call was made before the time expired for my dog on 18. So again acted against the law. Don't try to cover the guilt of people.

2017-09-03 14:27 Helen

Why not to share the day you found especially if you aware of 7 days dog law? The website procedure states

– Register your dog on DogLost.co.uk, and check their ‘Found Dogs’ section. DogLost’s amazing volunteers will swing into action to help.
– Inform your microchip company, as they will flag it on their system.
– Post a photo and details on our Facebook page, so our members can keep an eye out.
– Log your lost dog with the Waltham Forest Dog Enforcement Team via the council’s call centre on 020 8496 3000, and your message will be referred to the DET to action asap. Make sure you get a reference ‘T’ number. (You can send an email as back up to dogteam@walthamforest.gov.uk including the ‘T’ number, but the initial report must be made with the call centre for the report to be logged.) The DET must keep all found stray dogs for seven days, before passing them on to a rescue centre or putting them to sleep. If they consider the dog is BSL-type (breed specific legislation type), they may hold the dog and take legal action. A register of their found dogs is now available at reception at Sycamore House (behind the Assembly Hall) and open during normal office hours, and is updated weekly. They are also now tweeting found dogs @wfcouncil. Part of our latest campaign is to make this a more comprehensive online service.

2017-09-03 14:26 Helen

So you trying to say if you didn't kindly share the information above I would never found my dog?

2017-09-03 14:20 SimonH

Helen - This website just shares from others - your dog was picked up by the Dog Warden on the 11th - a volunteer kindly took that information and shared on here on the 14th - look at the above and note Date Found - 11th August. - if a dog is picked up at 1000am on a Friday - 7 days later at 10am on a Friday - that's 7 days - the dog can be rehomed as belongs to the council.

Last edited: 2017-09-03 14:21:22 by SimonH

2017-09-03 14:16 Helen

This website , it says found on 11 and registered on 14 of augest . I went back on www. walthamforest 4dogs, then I click on on Urgent help, then I click on if you have lost your dog procedure :


– Register your dog on DogLost.co.uk, and check their ‘Found Dogs’ section. DogLost’s amazing volunteers will swing into action to help.
– Inform your microchip company, as they will flag it on their system.
– Post a photo and details on our Facebook page, so our members can keep an eye out.
– Log your lost dog with the Waltham Forest Dog Enforcement Team via the council’s call centre on 020 8496 3000, and your message will be referred to the DET to action asap. Make sure you get a reference ‘T’ number. (You can send an email as back up to dogteam@walthamforest.gov.uk including the ‘T’ number, but the initial report must be made with the call centre for the report to be logged.) The DET must keep all found stray dogs for seven days, before passing them on to a rescue centre or putting them to sleep. If they consider the dog is BSL-type (breed specific legislation type), they may hold the dog and take legal action. A register of their found dogs is now available at reception at Sycamore House (behind the Assembly Hall) and open during normal office hours, and is updated weekly. They are also now tweeting found dogs @wfcouncil. Part of our latest campaign is to make this a more comprehensive online service.

2017-09-03 13:56 Mary

Helen - You have to register your dog as missing with the warden, they will then contact if he is picked up, still best to check on a daily basis. The warden registered the details on this site on 14th in the hope of finding the owner before the 7 days was up.

2017-09-03 13:16 DogLostSandra Watt

Helen - you state the dog was registered on 14 - to which site are you referring?

2017-09-03 13:12 Helen

They registered the dog in 14 , that's where I know where is dog so the 7 says should apply now . If they got dog but Noibe brother to register till 14 and my days are ticking how does this works?

2017-09-03 13:10 Helen

Thank you very much Mary, I will contact my vet on Monday . Trying to understand the law, I leave in between Refbridge borough and walthamforest . If they didn't registered my dog in 11 how do I know they got him?

2017-09-03 12:57 Mary

Helen - 11th counts as the first day, so seven days are 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th,15th,16th,17th. By 18th this dog becomes the property of the kennels. If your dog is microchipped please take SimonH's advice.

2017-09-03 12:46 Helen

Thank you guys so much for all your comments ...I appreciate it so much from the bottom of my heart . I believe it's so wrong , Waltham kennels know that we are the owner. We email them and done 1000 calls willing to recompensate everybody . Also I believe the law is awful . Owners can be ill , sick things happened and 7 days period unfair for the dogs( as it can be destroy) and for the owners .

2017-09-03 12:39 Helen

The truth are : dog been found on 11 of Friday , registered only on 14 and been shipped on 18! Are we talking about reunion? Dogs welfare ? Law started after 7 days period , math 11+7=18 Day after 18 means 19 when the dog is their property , so the people acted against the law!!! Didn't do their duty on Friday to register the dog as stated on their site www. Walthamforest 4dogs . If you lost you dog register him on doglost.co.uk and forward your call. But my dog was only registered on 14!!!

2017-09-03 12:25 Helen

Thank you so much Simon, I totally forgot about the vet , that's right they got all the information .

2017-09-03 12:22 Helen

11 of Augest it's Friday !!! Friday they do work Fridays,

2017-09-03 12:19 Helen

People acted against the law : read carefully

The law requires, under the Environmental Protection Act 1990, local councils to treat all unaccompanied dogs on public land as strays, regardless of whether they are wearing a collar and disc or have been microchipped. The council must seize such dogs and if they cannot be returned immediately to their owner they must be taken to the council stray pounds where they are held for a mandatory period of 7 days. After the 7-day period, the dog legally becomes the property of the kennels and the kennels can either rehome the dog to a new owner, keep the dog at the kennels or, following veterinary advice, put the dog to sleep.

2017-09-03 12:15 Helen

Hi Jenkins , thank you very much from r your answer . 11 of Augest it's Friday , and the 7 days law including the day they don't work ? Pls clarify if you k ow the 7 days law? Even if they got my dog on 11 by law it becomes their property after 7 days so in 19. But it's has been shipped on 18 when it was not their property yet. The law apply to the working days or to any days ??? If they didn't registered my dog in Friday the 11 how do I know they got it? I leave in between Redbridge borough and Walthamstow? They people who looked after reported the dog but didn't register in web site . I was out of the country and on social network as well . .

2017-09-03 11:33 DogLostSandra Watt

Helen - I totally sympathise with your predicament, however I should point out to you that Dog Lost is a site run by volunteers to try and help owners find their lost dogs. Some Dog Wardens (not many) help by registering found dogs but there is no onus on them to do so. Your dog was found by the dog warden on 11th August and dog wardens normally do not work weekends. However this Dog Warden very kindly registered the dog on 14th August but no owner came forward so the dog became the property of the kennels on 18th August. I understand you were on holiday returning home on 17th and reported your lost dog on 18th August. Who was looking after your dog when you were away and why did they not report him missing when you were away. Not sure what happened re the microchip but maybe SimonH's suggestions might help. Microchips have been known to move and not register when scanned.

2017-09-03 11:01 SimonH

Data protection won't allow the rescue who rehomed your dog to tell you. If your dog was microchipped and the details up to date then the Dog Warden has to legally write to that address informing you they have your dog. Ask via email if this happened. Your dog was found and taken to a vet to be scanned (according to the Twitter saying he had been found) on the 11th August - legally he did belong to the council on the 18th.
I'd suggest get the dogs microchip paper work - screen shot it or photo copy them and email /write to the council asking for a copy of the letter sent out to you - assuming you didn't receive it as you haven't mentioned you did. You may then have a case - if your dogs microchip didn't work then you still have proof he was chipped. Usually vets check dogs /cats microchips still work at their annual check up. Perhaps get your vet to verify and also ask your vet to ring the council to confirm all of the above - I'm sure your vet would be willing to help considering the circumstances ...

2017-09-03 10:52 Helen

That's what we ask , we was willing to pay recompensation to all parties , including new owner . But they don't tell us anything . My 3 kids and another dog, who is his mum in tears. Dog just lay by the door waiting for her son, kids in tears and can't wait to have him back . That's what I thought every dog lover , even if you just adopted someone else's dog should think firstly about the dog, he had family for 8 years , take a 8 year kid and tell him to love another mum and dad . Secondly it can be you in the same situation as me. Put yourself in my shoes , it's life and things happened . We didn't send him for re home , we lost him and we love him dearly and want him back. And I am sure he misses us as much as us. It's so wrong so wrong

2017-09-03 10:41 Helen

Dear volunteers or people who found my dog, why my dog hasn't been registered on this website on 11 of Augest? The day you found him? As this 7 days law should apply they day you registered? Why they hide my dog for 3 days?
The dog was found on 11 why it hasn't been registered in 11? It's says it has been registered on 14? Their 7 days start when they got my dog , but they didn't register till 14 of Augest ? How the 7 days law works?

2017-09-03 10:39 LH

Hi Helen, I noticed that the "found" date was registered as 14th August so you need to clarify dates of moving to kennels etc. and keep on with the dog warden/kennels.
We adopted a lovely dog from kennels, he'd been there for 3 weeks via the dog warden and I can honestly say that if his rightful owner had approached me in those early days I would've (sadly) given him back to his family in a heartbeat - as I think most decent people would.

2017-09-03 10:22 Helen

He had a colar on him, I believe( but I honestly can't say for sure) he has been chipped we had him for 8 years. Also I stayted I am happy to pay any penalty , also for every day the dog was in kennel. But when they found the dog he had no collar on him. They found the dog on 11 of augest , but the dog was only registered in this website in 14 of augest and again he has been shipped in 18 of augest before the 7 days law expire . On 21 dog left re home house with new owner By law it becomes their property after 7 days . After not in a 7 days . Also no one answer their phones their , you leave your message to believe they will call you back . I was away till17 when all this happenes, Days run out . I strongly believe they don't care about dog wellbeing and cruelty of all animals unbelievable : destroy or rehome. If person I'll, sick in hospital? If it's older generation who can't use social network . We live in 2017 world but people lost Humabity and love . When I ask for the address of rehome house they didn't gave me any information they treated me with such a disrespect , saying it's their property . The secretary wasn't allowed to talk to me only Phil Nash can answer the question . Why? If there is nothing to hide ! It's wrong , it's so wrong , I will go as far as I physically can , I will do anything I can as it's not my dog it's all lost dogs . That's how they treat all them . None take law into consideration , and people . My family had dog for 8 years , 8 years of love he gave to us and we gave him back . 8 years that people destroy in 7 days. Is it a law? It's a joke and people who work their can't treat the owner the way they treat . Go to rehome website , check the price to rehome the dog . Cash , money , dirty world !!!

2017-09-02 21:53 SimonH

Helen - Was your dog tagged and microchipped with your details up to date?

2017-09-02 21:52 Helen

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2017-09-02 21:51 Helen

I have called the Waltham Forest dog warden I was willing to pay for everything , revompansation to them new owner etc. I was told after 7 day it illegally their they can't tell me the re home he went to . Also his secretary was told not to answer on any of my questions . And it tells you what? Cash makers , money makers. I will engage my lawyer to dig underneath . And I am sure my dog not the only case. They got no attention to reunite you. And it's wrong , you look after dog for 10 years and after 7 days they can decide to destroy or re home . It's wrong , it's so so qtkbg

2017-09-02 21:41 Helen

Remember him and never deal with him in your life ...
Philip Nash.
Manager Dog Enforcement Team

London Borough of Waltham Forest
Neighbourhoods & Commisioning
Lowhall Farm
South Access Road
Walthamstow
London
E17 8

2017-09-02 21:39 Helen

Dear all, 11 of Augest dog got missing , unfortunately I was away and landed on 17. I reported in 18 about dog gone missing . Then if you will try to call it foes to answer phone and you leave your message and no one will ever call you back . I have been ringing for 3 h one day to say call me back urgently I left about 100 answer phone messages . Then on 18 my dog has been shipped ( against the law as it's only theirs after 7 days) so it prove they got the deal with rehome . If you go to rehome page on any website it's money . So this people money makes . Go further on 21 of augest my dog went to new owner . 18 has been shipped ,18,20 weekend they don't work and 21 new owner pick him up. To rehome the dog you have to advertise him first give dog assesment , owner assesment it doesn't take 3 days . And it's prove you they cooks . They sell them , they don't care about wellbeing , reunion or other shit. Money , they got their percentage that what it is. And it's so sad it's sad against animals , against owners . I don't care about their 7 days law that got no sence at all. Where is Love , humanity and animal well being considerations? If I am always , sick , ill , poor animal that gave you all his life for 2 options after 7 days: destroy or rehome . How cruel is that?

2017-09-02 21:29 Helen

Phil Nash
Philip Nash.
Manager Dog Enforcement Team

London Borough of Waltham Forest
Neighbourhoods & Commisioning
Lowhall Farm
South Access Road
Walthamstow
London
E17 8AX
The man who will answer to what he has done to every animal in a case , especially my. Don't ever handle any dogs to him. He has got no compassion and doesn't care about animal wellbeing. Sell the dog for cash ..: that what it is

2017-09-02 21:25 Helen

He shipped my dog to someone he has a deal with , they take their present age for sending the right dog they can sell . It's so so cruel . My heart is in pieces from sadness not just my dog for every owner who by circumstances has lost the dog . If the owner sick , ill and can't report that his dog missing : 2 options after 7 days . Destroy or rehome . And it's time to change the whole law . I will battle to the end what ever it takes and how much it takes . As I am an animal lover . And 100 petsantage they cooks for them just to sell the dog they got no intention in reunited . Or anything else . They new there is an owner but they made a deal and they had their money for selling the dog . That's why I just want to shout out to the whole world . A cause tmw you can be in my situation and it's wrong . It's so wrong, I want to peruse this matter so much further , I will dig underneath . And the love and humanity will win . Will win against them , and I hope my dog will see my 3 kids and his mother dog . It's life and things happened. But when I call them to say that I am the owner I was told I got no legal right they can't tell me where is my dog gone

2017-09-02 21:18 Helen

Thank you so much for your answer. follow further investigations my dog has been shipped to new home before 7 days law passed . And he has been rehome 3 days later. It already answe all the question .if you go in any rehome web site it's money to rehome the dog it cost money . You gave them deposit to secure the dog you like and after you pay the whole lot. Where the
Philip Nash.
Manager Dog Enforcement Team

London Borough of Waltham Forest
Neighbourhoods & Commisioning
Lowhall Farm
South Access Road
Walthamstow
London
E17 8AX

2017-09-02 20:04 LH

Helen, you really need to keep on at the kennels who rehomed your dog/ the dog warden - see what goodwill they have in this situation. I really hope you're successful. I agree that 7 days isn't long enough to wait and gives owners very little time to be reunited, harder if they're not chipped. I'm sure the dog's new owner would see what a horrible situation you're in - if you can find out who this is. Good luck.

Last edited: 2017-09-02 20:13:19 by LH

2017-09-02 18:48 Mary

Helen - If you approach Waltham Forest Dog Warden and are prepared to pay all their fees and any cost to the person who rehomed your dog, they may be prepared to ask the new owners if they will allow the dog to be returned to you. It is a long shot but there are many dogs in need of rehoming and they may be sympathetic to the situation you find yourself in and rehome another dog in need. With the law as it stands you are no longer the owner and are relying on the goodwill of the warden and new owner to facilitate this. Worth one last try.

2017-09-02 17:55 Hollieberry

So very sad for Helen & her family x

2017-09-02 13:53 Helen

Dear people , pay attention to whom you bring the dogs and other pets. This people got no attention of reuniting owners. Destroy or sell, they all Corrupted . Sell , dogs just it ma get rid of and to sell. I will find the truth I will dig so deeply Inside this for the sake of all animals in the world. 7 days law - then destroy or rehome. Where is the live and humanity law. Why no one take animal and owner into consideration? And you volunteer for some of them !! Phyll Nash !!! Everybody remember this name don't ever deal with him . I will dig under you !!!!i will dig deeply to see if you follow all the rules and how much money you personnalt recieve for selling my dog in cash!! I will find out the day the day the owner pay deposit to secure my dog and if it's during that 7 day period of time that you already sold my dog to rehome you will be in the place you have to be. For the sake of all dogs on this planet .

2017-08-31 19:09 Helen

Hi , thank you so much for your response. I did find out , it was Waltham Forest kennels , the main Manadger told me after 7 days , if they didn't find the owner my dog is their property . So on 18 they shipped the dog ( they don't say where) for a new home . On 21 the dog went to new owner . And they can't say where to . They mention it's a old pension owner . I can't believe it. It's all money , they sell good dogs, trying to get rid of them quickly. They don't care about animal wellbeing . It's 8 years old dog , who has life with kids and another dog . It's heart breaking situation .

2017-08-31 17:52 LH

Hi Helen, I feel your desperation - an awful situation! I'm not sure how far you've got with this already but is there any way you could find out which kennels your dog was sent to (where I live the local council use 2 different kennels where the dog warden places unclaimed dogs). At least you may be able to find out a bit more through them. I really hope you can get some local help to try and get to the bottom of things.

2017-08-31 17:39 DogLostSandra Watt

Helen - really feel your pain - it is obvious that you loved your dog:(
Unfortunately the law is that unclaimed dogs become the property of the kennels after 7 days. It's up to individual kennels regarding their re-homing policy.

2017-08-31 16:09 Helen

Can in 3 days they found out behavior issues? Can they found out what it took me a life? No matter how the hell professuinal you are the answer is NO.,, they way they treat animal it's an acceptable . Destroy or get rid of to anyone. What's my right as the owner?

2017-08-31 16:06 Helen

We love our dog to pieces... any help and advice would be really helpful , have researched all the google . The things is dog gone to a place for new home on 18 of August the day I registered then he has gone missing . Then 3 days later my fit, strong,powerful stuff gone to the Pension owner. The quotations are: how long it takes by law to assess the dog ? And do you get rid of him to any person who wants him? Or do you give him to the right person who will look after him ? Any advice any help of this matter I will appreciate

2017-08-31 15:48 Helen

How on earth can I get my dog back? Do I take a legal action against them? Take them to court? Do you know how many days by law it takes to asses the dog for new home? I don't believe it's 3 days? Do you give dog a 3 days rest while he is in kennel to asses? What my rights after looking after my dog all my life? Take everu single one of them to court?

2017-08-31 15:45 Helen

How on earth can I get my dog back? Do I take a legal action against them? Take them to court? Do you know how many days by law it takes to asses the dog for new home? I don't believe it's 3 days? Do you give dog a 3 days rest while he is in kennel to asses? What my rights after looking after my dog all my life? Take everu single one of them to court?

2017-08-31 15:43 Helen

Ok, I didn't realize it's not a Waltham Forest dog team. The things is I registered in 18 of August that I lost my dog . For 1 weeks I could not get through to them . And when I got through my dog went on 18 of August to a rehome place, then on 3 day they found him a home and they telling me it's a legal law that my dog after 7 days is their property . How can you comment this? I

2017-08-30 16:50 SimonH

Helen - This site has nothing to do with the stray dogs other than volunteers spend their time and effort posting the dogs onto the website. Ring 020 8496 3000 quoting ref WF4721 and ask where your dog is. I hope he managed to get a rescue space - or is still in kennels.

2017-08-30 16:25 Helen

To report that my dog is missing? I have reported exactly on 18 of August! Property? What's in earth is wrong with this world? It's so wrong so wrong !!!! Where is just humanity and Love? Animals love?Do we have to chip every kid in case it become someone else's property if you lost him in a shop ? People people wake up . Don't forget tmw it can be one of your dog , pet or kid. Sad , I can only shout out to people who has got our dog pls call me any reward 07791111396. I can't believe you can look after the dog all your life and then the law says: it someone else's property . I would appreciate if your team would come to explain it to 3 kids and another dog about your law. law against love and human being in this world. Law that breaks kids heart to pieces , law that separate animals , law law law . Open your eyes we all human being ...

2017-08-30 16:12 Helen

I have registered about missing dog on 18 of August with Waltham Forest and animal search U.K. My husband was trying to get in touch with dog team for the last 2 weeks , to day I have been calling non stop for 3h and leaving answer phone . How ele on earth do you want me

2017-08-30 15:58 DogLostSandra Watt

Helen - really sorry about your lost dog. Unfortunately, dogs are only given 7 days with dog warden / rescue centre and then the dog becomes the property of the rescue centre and usually are put up for rehoming. Unfortunately, Dog Lost have nothing to do with this process and won't be able to help. If you want to pursue further, you need to contact Waltham Forest Dog Warden on the number listed.

2017-08-30 15:58 DogLostLisaP

2017-08-30 14:54 Helen

Pls Dear dog team and others, and people who rehome the dog sometimes open your heart and help others . Imagine yourself in this position ?explain to children and other dog who are in pieces from sadness and I am sure the dog wioykd be in better environment where he brought up, we gave birth and first breath to this dog . Pls pls we would pay for the dog . Call me 07791111396

2017-08-30 14:48 Helen

I am the owner of this dog 🐶, who has been raised in love with 3 kids and another dog , who is his mum. We gave birth to this dog and was looking for him the moment he was gone. We all devasteyeyed that we can't have him back , another dog is dying from sadness the kids devasteyted . It's 8 years old dog who had his life and his family . And due to the poor work of dog team they give him away to a new home . Where is the humanity in this world? Where is Live to dogs and humans? dear people who has got our dog I beg your on my knees for the sake of my kids to reunited them. My number 07791111396

2017-08-19 09:29 Shelagh

There is a staff on animal search missing from 11 in e4 . Pic is very bad and dog is jumping up so can't really tell if this one. I will try to get somebody with a log in for that site to contact owner.

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