Reunited: Black & White Border Collie Male

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2012-01-29 17:10 k9chum

Well its only taken 12 months to get to the point where Crunchies were raided by the RSPCA. I believe it took them a long time to deal with a certain farm in Amersham to, and look what happend there!

2012-01-24 17:01 Andyroo

I have offered the BBC our pictures if required

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2012-01-24 13:29 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Hi bbcox Have passed on your contact details to our local co ordinator Sheree aka Christi who will be ringing you shortly.

2012-01-24 12:58 bbcox

Would you mind calling us to talk about it - id be very grateful. We've been down to the site today... alternatively you could email us on oxford@bbc.co.uk

Last edited: 2012-01-24 13:02:13 by bbcox

2012-01-24 12:23 Pepper

Not sure how to PM from here?

2012-01-24 11:19 bbcox

Hello - im calling from BBC Oxford - we are looking at the story you mention pepper - can you PM me or call us 01865 889099

2012-01-24 10:21 Pepper

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-16696364

Crunchy's Animal Rescue has at long last been raided, no one arrested but animals seized.

2011-01-31 13:30 colliebird

I'm so pleased this saga has a happy ending for Toby. I had him on my website http://bordercolliesneedinghomes.weebly.com
on the Lost/stolen/found page, and I was updating the page, checking on doglost and phoning owners, and was sooooooooooo happy to read the good news of Toby.
Phew! Well done to all of you who wouldn't let it go. That's what I call dedication and tenacity:-)
x x x

2011-01-28 23:30 Chappers

I've just ploughed through all these post & I'm horrified & disgusted at the kennels. I wonder how often similar things have happened there before. How often does this happen via other councils? I wonder if more info can be found via the "freedom of information" act.
If you want publicity why not contact Beverley Cuddy at Dogs Today Magazine. She is never afraid to handle anything controversial beverley@dogstodaymagazine.co.uk
I really feel for Toby/Barney's original owners who went through such a traumatic time - as if it's not bad enough having to rehome your dog in the first place. Well done to them for going about it in a responsible way.

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2011-01-27 17:17 Petman

Have been watching the comments and pleased that it has had a satisfactory outcome for Toby/Barney. Have just noted that thier web site is not online as "bandwith exceeded"!! Coincidence? Can't confirm that the greyhound has been chipped as we haven't had a chance to scan him yet.

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2011-01-27 15:04 BC

Notice as well the two white marks on his front left foot (as you are looking at photo), which both kennels denied he had, I wonder just how many dogs this has happened too, also a greyhound that was at the rescue was also microchipped, but apparently the details are still with the Kennels, why would they want to keep that???

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2011-01-27 04:56 Libertine

Been hooked on poor Toby/Barney's story.Glad it all ended happily for the poor baby. Hope his new people are as lovely as they sound. Just out of nosiness looked at the kennels website. Found it ironic that they offer micro-chipping - after all the business of no-one bothering to read Toby/Barney's chip. Also is it usual for a kennel to charge extra each time they walk your dog?

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2011-01-25 17:51 Shereen

Would love to meet him k9collie what a lovely shiney coat he has.Gorgeous Boy!

2011-01-25 15:54 k9collie

Wishing Barney and his new family a lovely life together. He is a stunning young lad. Shereen you summed it up well as I do feel that I know him although I never met him.

2011-01-25 11:28 Goldenfrodo

Be happy in your new home Barney xx Good luck lovely boy x

2011-01-25 08:21 DebsAndGreg

Good luck in your new home Barney, such a handsome boy.

2011-01-24 21:51 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Will update his name, thanks for posting earlier Matt and well done for rehoming him he is one famous boy. Jan x

2011-01-24 21:36 Shereen

Thanks Majorjet for doing the photo!.Gorgeous Boy Toby now has a new name 'BARNEY'Cute! just like his picture.Welcome to your new Life and Thanks Matt for giving him a lovely home.x

2011-01-24 20:47 Unknown

Toby is really handsome. I hope the home check goes well but am horrified that everything that has happened the way it has. I feel sorry for other people who may not know where their dogs are but have probably gone through this rescue and other rescues that are acting in this manner. Something needs to be done about this as soon as possible. I hope that if a big spread does go in a magazine or paper that people will read it and question where there dog has come from and more dogs may find their rightful owners. I hope Toby has a wonderful life and does not run off again!!

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2011-01-24 20:39 DogLostNina

Wonder just how many dogs have not been as fortunate as Toby. Money must have changed hands for many of the dogs. Wonder what their records and book keeping has been like.

2011-01-24 20:18 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Photo now uploaded of the gorgeous Toby in his new home. Wishing him and his family a very happy future. Lots of hugs and cuddles to Toby from everyone. Jan x

2011-01-24 10:32 BC

Matt contact South Oxfordshire Council, Mr.Paul Holland.
Brilliant post by you Matt, im sure the home check will go well, and glad Toby is with someone who obviously cares

2011-01-24 10:08 BC

On Tobys facebook page, there is a chap called Andy who has posted with regards to a dog he got from the rescue and the lies he was told about his dog, and the state she was in when he picked her up, last night whilst they were on a walk, someone tried to snatch the dog from him, she was found later with blue rope tied to her collar, he is on his was to the police as we speak. So Matt keep a close eye on Toby, ive left you a message on your phone

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2011-01-24 10:08 BC

On Tobys facebook page, there is a chap called Andy who has posted with regards to a dog he got from the resue and the lies he was told about his dog, and the state she was in when he picked her up, last night whilst they were on a walk, someone tried to snatch the dog from him, she was found later with blue rope tied to her collar, he is on his was to the police as we speak. So Matt keep a close eye on Toby, ive left you a message on your phone

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2011-01-24 06:22 DogLostAngus

Welcome on board Matt and a big thanks for posting on Toby's page - I hope that the homecheck sails through for you and Toby tomorrow so that both of you can move forward and enjoy your lives together, what a shock it must have been to have that call from Thames Valley Police about him.

As dog lovers we all owe it to Toby and others like him to ensure that if we as owners take the time to microchip our pets that the authorities and their agents comply with their duty of care and with their own publicly stated policies and actually scan stray dogs for microchips, it seems too easy for dogs to go missing in the system due to a lack of good record keeping, maybe a way forward would be for all licensed holding kennels to have to keep detailed records with photographs of all found dogs and display them on the councils website for everyone to see or be encouraged to use our free facility to do so (as a matter of interest local kennels who use our listings have found an increased reclaim and re-home rate and therefore a reduce rate of dogs PTS as well) - many councils do this as a matter of course but maybe this should looked at right accross the country.

Last edited: 2011-01-24 06:24:47 by Angus

2011-01-24 00:57 Shereen

Hi Matt,Thanks for leaving a message on Tobys page.We all appreciate it,although we never met Toby we feel like we know him!It certainly sounds like Toby was one of the lucky ones,although he was exteremely unlucky on the day he decided to scale the Gate!and have to spend Christmas Alone im sure!
He looks a lovely dog and im so glad hes found somewhere he can settle as hes only a baby realy.Best of Luck tomorrow on the Homecheck im sure it will all be fine,and would love to hear any updates ,and maybe when you get round to it a photo of him in his new home? Take Care and Big Hugs to Toby from everyone at Doglost.xxx

2011-01-24 00:03 matthabens

Hello all, its nice to hear everyones concern about tobys welfare. Allow me to introduce myself as the the person who had the wool pulled over his eyes when i bought toby from crunchys on the 28th december last year. More so my surprise when i received a call from thames valley police explaining the history of a problem which seemed to have got seriously out of hand. I would like everyone to know that toby is well and healthy and i'm awaiting the homecheck from collie rescue which should be tomorrow afternoon to allow the correct adoption procedure to take place which should allow toby to enjoy his new home. Both crunchys and honeybottom will wish they had been honest and co-operative once i get dug into to the legal matters of this, i've read every post on this page and its unbelievable to think all this was going on without any of this being informed to me by crunchys. I can confirm that he was in a state when i collected him, took me nearly an hour to clean him, he did have the light blue collar mentioned, he is not neutured also. I will be speaking to the council also even though i have nothing to do with oxford council as i live in winchester but i feel i need to rope them into joining the legal side for their irresponsibility. Any questions you want ask feel free, i'll try my best to help.
Regards
Matt

2011-01-20 18:30 Teddys Mum - Area Volunteer, West London

Have just sat and read the latter posts. I take my hat off to you BC.(you're a dog with a bone) Glad Paddy is safe and remhomed with what sounds like nice owner. BUT... I have to say... these Kennels need investigating and serious issues addessed forwith or better still close them down. They sound awful and clearly manned by LIARS...

2011-01-19 13:24 digbysmum

Hope you'll be happy in your new forever home, lovely Toby x

2011-01-19 08:25 DebsAndGreg

Sounds like a happy ending for Toby, thanks to all the hard work people have put in. Must be such a relief for all concerned.

2011-01-18 23:01 Shereen

Well what can I say that hasnt already been said! I am so sadened for all of our missing dogs in this Area if they are being treated like this...The fact that they are having to deal with poor conditions and be moved onto homes that may not be suitable due to no homechecks and not given the chance to be reunited with thier familys,Which could be so simple if we all WORKED TOGETHER! And what for?...Toby was advertised for £80!! he Wasnt neutured which i thought was standard practice for a proper rescue,before they are rehomed.Which in the wrong hands just adds to the stray problems we have.
Thankyou BC for caring and lets hope this is the beginning of Reuniting many more dogs in this Area!I realy hope Tobys Homecheck goes well,His new owner actually sounds nice so ive got my fingers crossed for him.I bet Tobys old owners are pleased to know that he isnt and hasnt been running loose in all the bad weather we had over Christmas,but it would of been nice to of put thier mind at rest though on day one when he was handed in as a stray.

2011-01-18 19:49 natalie

I thought this may have something to do with a friend of the rescue/kennel staff. That would make more sense in the sense that this would explain why more effort wasn't made to get Toby home and why you were lied to so much. Something definitely needs to be looked in to at Crunchy's, something just doesn't sit right about this whole situation. Toby hadn't been stray for very long at all when he was picked up so i agree there was not much reason for him to be in a mess when he was rehomed? How did the home check go? I really hope Toby is happy and healthy wherever he is, Natalie

2011-01-18 19:46 BC

I have also contacted Dogs Monthly and Your Dog Magazines, i have emailed them the story about Toby, and hopefully they will print something to make sure the public do to the kennels to see if their dogs are there, not just take the word of kennel staff, youd think when we sent the kennels and rescue the photos, they would of owned up that they had both made massive mistakes, but no, they carried on this charade, to make us believe this wasnt Toby

2011-01-18 19:37 ML

Thanks Radar Ears, I knew I had missed something somewhere along the line!
Fantastic news that he has been located and has gone off to a new forever home. Shame that all of these lies have been told and I hope that these kennels get looked into. Well done BC for all your hard work. xxx

2011-01-18 19:21 BC

Both the Kennels and Rescue, have told lies all the way through this, the rescue said this person was a friend of hers, and he had been waiting for over a year to adopt a collie from her, which seemed strange when we checked the dogs she had rehomed in 2010, and there were quite a few collies, so why didnt he have one of those, if what she was saying was true. They agree with everything the kennels were saying, that he didnt have a collar, when he even left the rescue centre with the exact same collar Toby was wearing, they are both as bad as one another, I think the rescue need taking a look at, apparently the dog came out of there in a an appauling state, filthy dirty and stinking, he had only been at the rescue for one day, so why was he in such an appauling state, perhaps the kennels need inspecting as well

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2011-01-18 18:55 Radar Ears

ML,
Toby's owners could no longer keep him and were acting responsibly by signing him over to Border Collie Rescue.
Just as he was about to be signed over, he did a runner, that is why his owners were so worried.
Although they couldn't keep him for whatever reason, they still loved and cared about his welfare and wanted to ensure that he went to a very good new home.
That is what all the "hoo ha" is about, because he was found and handed into kennels, who denied that it was him, didn't check his microchip and he was re-homed somewhere where no-one knew where he was.
Fortunately they do now and the new owner (completely innocent of all the shenanigans) is being homechecked, so all should (hopefully) be well for Toby from now on.
Well done BC for getting it sorted.

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2011-01-18 18:13 ML

Sorry, I have probably got a bit lost along the way in what sounds like a terrible mess but is Toby not able to go back to his original owner? xx

2011-01-18 17:50 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

BC you have done a FANTASTIC job and we all applaud you. LOL When you get your teeth into something you do not back down and are not one to mess with, your perseverance has paid off and you have got a brilliant result, WELL DONE and THANK YOU.

Thanks to the Police and everyone who has been involved in finding Toby.

Hope everything goes well with the home check and Toby can start a new life in his new home. We would love to see an up to date photo of him. Lots and lots of hugs and cuddles to the gorgeous Toby from everyone on DL. Jan x

2011-01-18 17:36 DogLostAngus

BC - you have done a great job here - one where many would have given up at the first or second hurdle - you have completed a marathon here to finally get the information which should have been forthcoming straight away.

We as responsible owners put our faith in Microchipping our dogs as we all know collars can come off/ be removed but the microchip is supposed to help in a situation like this but if the authorities and their agents continue to fail in their duty of care to simply scan a stray dog and then call the registered owners.
Who gives them the right to deny an owner their correctly identifiable dog from going home.

I must say that if I lived in this catchment area I would be contacting the councils Cheif Exceutive officer and demanding an enquiry into the councils policies - The kennels and the Wardens are being funded from residents council tax so surely this could be classed as misuse of public funds and could involve an audit of the relevant department ? furthermore if this did not bring the correct results I would take it to the press

This is wrong on so many levels.

I am however very pleased that Toby is safe and I also feel for the new owner who has innocently been dragged into this mess.

2011-01-18 16:35 Deb4gsd

Well done BC for your hard work and persistence and determination to get to the bottom of the situation with Toby and these centres. Disgusting that they have lied consistently instead of being honest, holding their hands up and admitting they had rehomed Toby before they were legally allowed to! How many other times has this happened???
Glad Toby has been found and is safe and hope the new owners are suitable after the homecheck! Well done once again!

2011-01-18 15:26 BC

Shereen, i just cannot believe the LIES that have come from the kennels and the rescue, its an absolute disgrace, they should lose the contract for the stray dogs forthwith, i will certainly be speaking to paul holland from the council, but he is a very hard man to get hold of.

2011-01-18 15:12 Shereen

Well done BC!!!!
I think ill comment on this later!

2011-01-18 13:46 natalie

oh my gosh i cannot believe The rescue gave a false address, this is despicable! I am so glad we now know where Toby is and can check that he is safe and in the best possible home. I really hope the police are going to take action against Honeybottom kennels/Crunchys for what they have put you, Toby's owners and anybody else involved through. I don't understand at all why they have continued to lie, when he was obviously wearing a distinctive collar, was not neutered and was MICROCHIPPED. it's beyond me. They must realise that they have crossed the line here and places like this, as you say, just cannot be trusted! Please visit the kennels yourself if you lose a dog as i bet this is not the first time this has happened. I honestly think they just rehomed him as soon as they possibly could and then lied to you because they realised they had made a mistake, and hoped you wouldn't chase up the dog found and rehomed thinking it must be Toby. It was obviously easier for them at the time to LIE and say it wasn't Toby. it's so disgusting that this could have happened before and somebody's beloved pet could be rehomed within a few days OVER THE XMAS PERIOD when there is nobody even there to answer the phones! and their owners could go on searching for them for years, it's beyond belief. I am so glad that you have chased this up BC you've done a wonderful job.

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2011-01-18 13:14 BC

Why were THE KENNELS AND THE RESCUE telling lie after lie to conceal this dogs identity. The photos which they said 100% was not Toby, The Distincitve Collar which both said he did not have on, the fact that Toby was NOT neutered, and they were saying he was, and THE KENNELS telling us that he had NEVER been at their kennels. LIARS, LIARS LIARS !!!!!I asked the person who had got the dog from the rescue if the dog had a collar on when he picked him up, he said yes, a pale blue collar with small silver bones on it, the exact collar we had asked the kennels and rescue about many times. What are they trying to cover up here, are they in some sort of scam together on this. So we have now established they are both Liars, but are unsure of their motive in this, but a warning to anyone losing a dog in the South Oxfordshire area, do NOT take the word of the Kennels that your dog is not there, go there and insist on seeing the dogs they have there. There is no excuse for this sort of conduct by a well known kennels and a not so well known rescue, even when we provided photos etc they still said the dog was not in the kennels or rescue, what the hell is going on here.

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2011-01-18 13:02 BC

Yesterday we had a letter from Identichip saying that someone was trying to change Tobys details, this information was passed to Thames Valley Police. The Police visited the Rescue, and were given a false address by them, luckily we had the information from Identichip. The Police contacted the person who got Toby from Crunchies. and he has just telephoned me, we now have the address where Toby is, and are arranging a home check as we speak. We have been told lie after lie by THE KENNELS AND THE RESCUE IN RELATION TO TOBY.

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2011-01-17 12:20 BC

I have removed post regarding the info recieved today in case kennels or crunchys are monitoring doglost or facebook, as the police are making enquires today, will repost soon

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2011-01-13 00:30 Shereen

Thankyou Angus...with your hard work, you have had this great results with forest lodge...and im willing to go in voluntarily to wherever our council are sending thier dogs for photos or to have them emailed to me,as we can see there have been results and it works.BC...you have worked tirelessly to find out what happened to Toby,as after all these dogs are living breathing beings, with feelings at the end of the day thats why we do it ...we know these dogs are effected by what happens to them...and thats what we care about!!!

2011-01-12 21:13 DogLostAngus

BC - you have done a fantastic job here - If Paul Holland wants any back up information I am sure that the owners of Forest Lodge Kennels in Northants will back up the amazing strides we have made since doing the weekly photographing (and this can be done by a volunteer which will save the council money) - Forest Lodge have 8 DW contracts and a massive turnover of dogs they have noticed an improvement in the number of owner reclaims and also the number of rehomes from the kennels and coupled with this a lower number of dogs having to be PTS when their time is up - this is a trifold win win situation for the council & the kennels and we have had a number of dogs reunited as a direct result of their pictures being posted here.

Although the situation is not sorted we do at least now know that Toby is safe and not 'out there living rough' and that is one good point - hopefully the remainder of the story will fall into place in time

2011-01-12 20:36 BC

Hi Natalie, i said to paul holland today, everyone is possible of making A mistake, but not four, one the dog is microchipped, he was not wearing a normal leather collar, and he is definately NOT neutered, and that 100% it wasnt Toby, i dont think can be excused, yes one maybe, but not all of them, and even after speaking to her and voicing my concerns,. she still ademently stuck to the fact that this wasnt Toby, and we know now that it was him

2011-01-12 20:21 natalie

Surely the least the kennels can do is let you know the truth, if they have made a mistake then they have to admit it, and they can tell you what kind of home he has gone to and everybody's minds will be at ease! That is great news about the strays, more found dogs need to be photographed and put on sites like this one, there are so many people's dogs rehomed or PTS because 7 days is just really not a long time to report and recover a lost dog, having photos on site of founds dogs as soon as is possible will surely help a lot of people. I'm glad Paul Holland has listened to your concerns BC, finally! I didn't know that about the rescue, that is quite worrying about them not homechecking. Looking forward to hearing what the kennels have to say next week, definitely need some answers for what on earth happened. Natalie

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2011-01-12 20:08 DogLostNina

Well done BC for your perseverence. I beleive it does the powers that be some good to hear from people that know what is going on in the world. I am often suspicious that where money or fees can be involved that things can sometimes go wrong.

2011-01-12 19:51 BC

Ive had a long chat with Paul Holland from the Council this afternoon,trying to condence a 20 miniute phone call onto here may be a bit difficult, I think i eventually manged to get my point over to him, he is going to speak to The Kennels owner early next week, so see if we can come to an mutual agreement over Toby, obviously we will meanwhile continue our action through the Police against the Kennels for the theft of Toby. One good thing to come out of the conversation is over the strays in south oxfordshire, soon the contract is coming up for tender, he is going to make sure that digital photos of all the stray dogs are taken as part of the contract, and they will be put on Doglost or the Councils own website or Both. He is unable to speak to the owner of The Kennels until early next week, and he will ring me once he has spoken to him, possibly Wednesday or Thursday. He has also taken on board our concerns that the council strays are going to The rescue that do not home check, just proof or id and address is sufficient to remove a dog from the rescue, i said to him that the council had a responsibilty to make sure the dogs were homed properly.

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2011-01-11 17:45 natalie

hi BC, gosh this is such a bad situation. Obviously this IS Toby then from what the finder has told you, and to me this means the council have been lying to you. This really does give people no trust in the council or in kennels to check the dogs coming in to them for either a microchip or against their reported lost dogs. The council had been told of a missing dog with a very clear description and there is just no excuse. He was microchipped!! it's just dreadful. Do you think there is a chance he has been rehomed within the kennel staff because i don't understand how he could have been rehomed during the christmas period? So many unanswered questions! And for the man from the council to insult you like that is just disgraceful when these people have been giving you the run around for 2 weeks and people have been searching for Toby and he has been rehomed. They certainly have made a mistake, a huge one! Why WHY would they go through all of this to rehome a dog that already had a space at a BC rescue when there are so many other dogs that need homes and that they could have found homes for? I really hope somebody gives you some answers soon BC as i am so desperate to find out why and how something like this could have happened!!!

2011-01-11 16:54 BC

I have four or five emails from Emma at the Kennels, saying that the dog did not match Tobys description, which obviously is not true. The spokesman for the council also went on to insult me by saying that the only reason i could possibly be persuing this matter was for FINANCIAL GAIN , i immediately contacted the Chief Executives Office to tell them what he had said, and i am waiting for a call back from them.
The spokeman for the council said " the kennels may of made a mistake" ???
I have since contacted Thames Valley Police and have a crime number for the Theft of Toby by the Kennels

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2011-01-11 16:48 BC

Ok, here is the update, On Saturday I managed through Larkmead Vets, to locate the finder of the dog picked up in didcot, they had left a found report with the vets. The vets kindly contacted the finder and asked her to contact me, which she did within a matter or minutes. She confirmed the dog she had taken to Honeybottom Kennels, was a BC, approx 1 year old, wearing A PALE BLUE DIMANTE TYPE COLLAR, and the dog WAS NOT NEUTERED !!! She also logged the same information with the Council on the 19th, and told me the council had been in touch with her the day before to confirm the details, obviously they do NOT match the details given to us by the kennels. I forwarded her a photo of Toby, to see if he was the dog she had taken to Honeybottom, she called me back to say that it WAS DEFINATELY THE DOG THEY TOOK TO THE KENNELS. The are absolutely astonioshed that the kennels are saying he was wearing a plain collar and was neutered. I have since been trying to contact the council and managed to speak to a man today in paul hollands office, he said i was sending them a barrage of documentation, obviously i had done so, to try to establish the dogs identity, and by way of emails proof that the kennels had told me, that the dog they had in on the 19th was not Toby

2011-01-10 21:12 BC

Hi Natalie, the rescue nor the kennels knew that toby was going to be rehomed, so its not that. The kennels and rescue are still denying that Toby is the dog that was handed in on the 19th December, but i know 100% that it was him, and can prove it.

2011-01-10 17:39 natalie

Perhaps through embarrassment, as they now know that Toby is microchipped and that he was wearing a collar when he was found. There is absolutely no excuse for them not checking for his chip and for them rehoming him. Perhaps they knew that he was going to be rehomed from his family and so didn't think it important to let them know, but this is so disgraceful, if he was a dog that had been lost in any other situation and his chip had not been checked and then he had been rehomed then somebody would have to answer these questions, so why just because poor Toby was being rehomed should nobody care? People have still been searching for him and his owners are still very upset about him being lost, and he was not rehomed from the rescue that they wished him to go to. Not only this but they were not even told that he had been found and safe they must have been worried sick. It is very disappointing to know that things like this can happen and i hope you get some answers from the person dealing with this when he is back tomorrow. Thinking of Toby and hoping he is safe wherever he is. Natalie

2011-01-10 14:26 BC

All I can say at present, is that i have definative proof that the dog that went to Honeybottom Kennels was DEFINATELY TOBY, i have numerous emails from Honeybottom kennels saying the dog they had in on the 19th December, was NOT him,and that i should be looking elsewhere for him, I will post the information as soon as i have been able to speak to South Oxfordshire Council, unfortunately the person dealing with this is not in until tomorrow. Why are they trying to conceal Tobys identity ????

Last edited: 2011-01-10 14:27:27 by BC

2011-01-09 19:05 natalie

Hi BC, is there any news on Toby, i have been very worried about him.Natalie

2011-01-09 11:33 BC

Thanks k9Collie, much appreciated

2011-01-08 14:53 k9collie

Hi, we have put up quite a few posters around the places where we have seen other dog walkers. The fleet meadows estate is quite big and includes the road where Toby went missing from. May need more posters doing but I will wait to see what the developments are. BC could you email me k9hotdog2000-dl@yahoo.co.uk please

2011-01-08 11:22 BC

Massive developments today, Shereen can you ring me, i cannot say too much at the moment on here, but will update asap

2011-01-07 15:00 BC

Also who instructed the finder to take the dog to Honeybottom Kennels, ive requested this info also from council, if they have

2011-01-07 14:28 BC

Funnily though, when the dog arrived at Crunchys rescue, the dog had NO Collar, so what happened to the collar they "believe" the dog was wearing

2011-01-07 14:26 BC

Just had an email from the council saying they have spoken to the kennels and they say they "Believe" the dog was wearing a normal leather collar, and they "Believe" the dog that came into them was Neutered, surely they would have to record this information??? as proof of the dogs identity, they think the collar may of been leather, lol Also spoken to the Rescue who say the dog they had from Honeybottom was definately neutered, so if all this is true, then this couldnt possibly be Toby, im still convinced its him, just a case of proving it

Last edited: 2011-01-09 11:39:23 by BC

2011-01-07 11:10 BC

Spoken to council today, the chap i was speaking to originally will not speak to me as it is now being dealt with by Paul Holland, he would not even confirm whether the dog was wearing a collar, Paul Holland isnt in today, but is apparently answering his emails, so i have emailed again asking the collar details and whether this dog was neutered

2011-01-07 00:07 BC

Thanks K9collie and Shereen, for all your help, if we can get the poster up by the fields where the dog was found hopefully the person who found him, may be a dog walker, will come forward, if i can find out about the collar from the council tommmorow, i will let you know, thanks again

2011-01-06 23:37 Shereen

K9collie,Thanks for your offer of help,would be great if you can put some posters up!...
Ill still go on Saturday to put some up too.

2011-01-06 22:41 k9collie

Hi, I live in Didcot and can put posters up. I actually saw the owners own hand written notice and rang them just before xmas and advised them to put him on doglost. The lady that I spoke to said that she had internet (I asked as I would have done it for her) but as I didn't see him on here I just presumed that he had been picked up locally and reunited. I have been following this since he appeared on here. If there is anything else I can do please let me know. I have been really concerned for him as he seems to have got lost in the system, if it was him that was taken to the kennels.

2011-01-06 21:30 Shereen

BC, I have about 10 posters left I was going to put up in Didcot nxt time im there,Unfortunately i ran out of ink ATM!!!,so I can only put up what Ive got left,I can ammend them by hand,The owners (I think ) have put some posters up,I could probs get there Saturday or Sunday.

2011-01-06 20:40 BC

Shereen, someone has just suggested that we put posters up where this dog was picked up, which is a brilliant idea, perhaps the finder might come forward, and we could find out about the collar that way, if we changed the poster slighty, and put something like "Did you Find this Dog", please contact, put my number, it was probably a doggie type person to bother, perhaps they walk their dogs there, do you live anywhere near by ??? or is there anyone else that lives near fleet meadow, just in case the council have not logged info on collar

2011-01-06 18:48 BC

How stupid Shereen not to ask if he was wearing a collar, why am i so stupid ???
My excuse is that i was trying to think of everything else i had to say to them !!!!

2011-01-06 18:47 BC

Thanks Shereen xx

2011-01-06 18:45 Shereen

Ill do some calling/emailing around tomorrow .

2011-01-06 18:33 BC

Im so stupid, i didnt even think to ask, such a simple thing AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGh

2011-01-06 18:32 BC

Ill ring the council again tommorow to find out

2011-01-06 18:31 BC

When the kennels give a desccription of the dog to the council would they not of mentioned the collar he was wearing???

2011-01-06 18:29 BC

Shereen, is there any chance you could do the remainder of the vets, we may find out then, which vets he was taken to to get him scanned, someone told me that Crunchys vets are either Frazers or Elliott, i wrote it down somewhere and cant find it now

2011-01-06 18:20 BC

I wrote to the Chief Executive of the Council yesterday,explaining what a mess this has been, they have passed it to Environmental Protection, so waiting for them to respond as well

2011-01-06 18:17 BC

This is really getting on my nerves (being polite of course), if for some reason this is NOT toby, we have wasted nearly a fortnight messing around with the kennels and rescue, i think we still need to get posters out just in case its not him, i know we are pretty sure it is, but if we hang around much longer then we may never track him down

2011-01-06 18:14 BC

Thanks Jan, how you doing ???
Ive tried all day to get hold of the rescue and sent emails and they have not responded.
Is there anyone that could get some posters up around Abingdon, i think Toby has been rehomed locally, perhaps we could put on the poster that he was rehomed via a rescue between the 30th Dec - 1st January, thanks if someone could sort that out it would be brilliant

2011-01-05 22:48 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Great work BC and everyone else, keeping everything crossed. Good luck. Jan x

2011-01-05 22:14 Shereen

That would be fantastic...Fingers crossed

2011-01-05 18:34 BC

Spoken to the Rescue concerned, they may agree to us meeting with Tobys owner, and the dog in question, to see if its toby, they have to put the proposal in front of the committee, so fingets crossed

2011-01-05 08:31 DebsAndGreg

Hope you get some positive news today. Toby looks a lovely boy. This situation must be awful for the owners who only want to do whats best for him, and my thoughts are with them.

2011-01-04 18:30 BC

Also I contacted the owners of honeybottom kennels, as they are very high up in the show world, thought possibly i might of got a more positive response from them, but they were very disinterested

2011-01-04 18:20 BC

Just spoken to the council, they have said there is nothing they can do, the kennels are under no legal obligation to scan a dog when it comes in to the stray kennels, even though this is the normal practice, they say it its unfortunate that when the owner rang them the council was closed due to the burst water pipe, im furious, perhaps the newspapers are the next step here

2011-01-04 18:06 DogLostAngus

watching for any news :-)

2011-01-04 16:44 Shereen

Ive just looked on Google earth....Fleet meadows is probably less than 1/4 a mile from where Toby went missing from!

Last edited: 2011-01-04 16:46:24 by Shereen

2011-01-04 14:31 BC

Not heard anything from council yet, will update asap

2011-01-04 13:06 BC

Ok, ive spokem to the council today, and it has been confirmed by them that the dog was booked in as a stray on the 19th December, the dog was picked up in fields at back of Fleet Meadow, which is where the owner walks him. The council have said that they tried to contact the owners on the 20th, the owner was in all day due to the fact that she was snowed in, and she had no calls from them, the gentleman at the council then went on to say it was the owners responsibility to contact them, which she did on the 22nd ot 23rd, which he says did not happen, i then contacted the owners, and she said that when she rang the council the section dealing with missing dogs was closed due to a burst water pipe within there office, and they said they would give them a message to say that she had rang. Ive called back to the council and he said that this did happen, but that the message had not been relayed to him, so i am now waiting for him to call me back. We are trying to get access to this dog to see if it is toby. The Kennels say that Toby has never been in there kennels, but funnily enough, Toby was boarded at Honeybottom kennels between the 2 - 9 th October 2010.
Radar Ears, yes the owners were going to rehome Toby due to a marriage split, but they did want him to go to Collie Rescue, and not a general rescue, this has been very distressing for them, they do not know if this dog is Toby or not, we just wish to clarify the matter, so we know whether to continue searching for Toby or not.

2011-01-03 18:59 Radar Ears

Hi Shereen, thanks for that, I have been following the thread, but just got confused.
It is nice to know that Toby's owners are still concerned for his welfare, they must be so worried about him, lets hope it is all resolved soon.

2011-01-03 17:40 Shereen

The reason for this is because they are owners who do actually care,they went to the trouble of finding the right rescue to sign him over to responsibly,They are still worried for his welfare and this dog still needs to be found.BC has more knowlege of the situation between the rescue and the owners,im sure she will post later.

Last edited: 2011-01-03 17:42:42 by Shereen

2011-01-03 17:21 Radar Ears

On "bordercolliesneedinghomes" there is a section for lost/found/stolen dogs.
There is a picture of Toby under "missing" but it says:
"Missing from back garden on the same day he was due into Border Collie Rescue".
I can't make this out, if they are saying (on that website) that he was due into the rescue, that means his owners were giving him up.
On this thread though, his owners are looking for him.

2011-01-03 16:54 Shereen

if South Oxfordshire district council dont do that area,then it will be The Vale of the White Horse,I tried contacting both of these ,but by the time we learned about Toby going missing,we were well into the holidays by then,i was told somebody would call me back but never got that phonecall!.Hope tomorrow brings some answers!

Last edited: 2011-01-03 16:59:20 by Shereen

2011-01-03 16:44 Shereen

I totally agree BC they definitely need one!!!

2011-01-03 16:32 BC

I Need a Job, perhaps ill apply !!!!

2011-01-03 16:32 BC

Hi Shereen, they said they did not deal with the area ox11, and the only thing we can do is contact the council of Tuesday, what chance have we got of getting any dogs back in this area, its stupid, it seems everything has been against us on this one, just hope i can get to the bottom of it tommorow, its driving me nuts. Oxford needs a dog warden, NOW!!!!!!!

2011-01-03 16:06 Shereen

SDK may not deal with Oxford dogs,as Oxford city council do.BUT they DO deal with OXFORDSHIRE dogs this side of Oxford as the council use contractors.SDK collected a dog that was found in Oxfordshire only a couple of months ago,so I know they do.

2011-01-03 15:08 BC

This is a ridiculous situation, the lengh of time a dog is kept over the holiday periods should be extended, how the hell are you supposed to find a dog when the council is shut until the 4th jan, and no one seems to know who deals with oxford dogs, even the helpline for the council gave me a number which was nothing to do with the dog warden, when you ring SDK they say they dont deal with oxford dogs, spoke to them this morning, , no where on the council website dose it tell you which kennels hold dogs for the council. Things need to be changed, normally when you only have 7 days to locate a dog its hard enougjh, but when you have all the added downfalls its almost impossible

2011-01-02 21:37 BC

Shereen, ive emailed Tobys details to vets as listed: Abivale,Brook, R.Elliott,Beaumonts,Medivets,not many have email addys listed, but these did, so ive done them, cheers

2011-01-02 19:05 BC

Have just spoken to Tobys owner, they have looked at the photo of the dog on pets 4 homes, and they are 100% sure its Toby

2011-01-02 17:44 BC

Ok heres the update:. We found out that Crunchys Dog Rescue take dogs for Honeybottom Kennels, after finding this information there was a dog advertised on Pets 4 Homes who matched Tobys description, in the picture the dog was wet, so we were not 100% sure it was Toby or not, the dog was at Crunchys. Unfortunately the dog has been rehomed before we got a chance to view him. i have spoken to Crunchys today, and they informed me that the dog had come from Honeybottom, but that they were told that he had been picked up by the dog warden on the 14th December, in Wantage, and that he had been scanned by the dogwarden, conpletely different from what we were told by Honeybottom, so at this point we are not sure what the correct information is. The only thing we can do now is wait until the council opens on the 4th Jan, to find out which version of events is the correct one, and we can go from there to try and establish if this is Toby or not. Crunchys have agreed to speak to the new owner of the dog and ask him to take the dog to a vets to get him scanned, and i have to speak to them again on Tuesday.

Last edited: 2011-01-02 21:38:28 by BC

2010-12-31 18:19 Shereen

Thanks BC

2010-12-31 14:47 BC

Shereen, ive updated Tobys owners as to the goings on at the moment

2010-12-31 13:56 BC

Honeybottom are not responding to any emails sent to them, which worries me

2010-12-30 19:29 Shereen

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2010-12-30 19:13 BC

Do you know where Honeybottom send their dogs, they will not give the details of the rescue, and say its too late as he has already been rehomed, but if it is Toby, he is microchipped, and if the council had been informed that he had been handed in by a member of the public to a stray holding kennel they would of contacted the owner, who has been in contact with the dogwarden???

2010-12-30 19:11 BC

Ive been in touch with the council, waiting for dog warden to ring me, emma said that the dog they had was smaller than Toby, but need a bit more than that to convince me its not him, same area, same date, same description, same age, same temperment. How could the dog of already been rehomed, he wouldnt of been able to leave the pound until the 26th Dec, if it was booked in as a stray, and they would not of been able to rehome him for 28 days, if not booked in with the council, so still doing some digging

2010-12-30 13:30 Shereen

BC, Emma from honeybottom is just checking emails,and is going to let you know one way or the other,as i have to go out in a minute.

2010-12-30 13:18 Shereen

BC,all the councils are closed till 4th Jan!!!im waiting for somebody to callback from the out of hours numbers..... SDK enviromental contractors who deal with the area...08444 828337 if you could try them please,I emailed posters to the kennels i know they use two days ago,and im sure I would of heard if Toby had been there,ill give them a quick call now.

Last edited: 2010-12-30 13:20:15 by Shereen

2010-12-30 12:27 BC

Shereen do you have a direct number for the dog warden please

2010-12-30 12:25 BC

I have just contacted all the kennels in Didcot and surrounding areas, and i think i might of found Toby, i have sent the kennels a photo of him, and they will be confirming shortly, he has been sent to another rescue, as his time was up, if the dog warden has been contacted,and he is microchipped, then why havnt the owners been informed of this dog, will update asap

2010-12-30 10:50 BC

Has anyone managed to speak to the local dog warden yet, can anyone give me a list of the kennels in the local area, and i will start ringing them all, thanks

2010-12-29 13:50 DogLostRiverlady

Have put on twitter + will circulate.

2010-12-28 22:10 BC

Thanks Shereen, i agree shirley, definately would be taken for a cross breed, thanks to everyone for their help

2010-12-28 21:43 Karenn

Aw glad images are sorted, let me know if a hand is needed for leaflets/posters.... xx

2010-12-28 18:28 Shirley4Collies

I certainly agree with Natalie, and would make sure that dog wardens, vets etc are just asked to contact if they find a 'black dog' .. I am sure they will label this dog as a crossbred.

2010-12-28 16:12 Shereen

I made a report with network rail yesterday...will send all vets posters tomorrow.

2010-12-28 15:53 BC

Looks a really nice dog, hopefully he will be found soon, could someone check with highways and railway, as the owner said there are railway lines close by, just to cover all eventualities, being that there have been no sightings of him, perhaps someone has taken him in and decided to keep him, could we poster vets in the area, in case he turns up as a new pet with someone, thanks

2010-12-28 14:51 natalie

I would definitely keep an eye out for found dogs listed under collie cross/flat coated retriever as he looks to have something else other than border collie in him, Natalie

2010-12-28 14:41 Shereen

Thanks Jayne

2010-12-28 14:39 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Poster e mailed to helpers in OX11,12,13,14,

2010-12-28 14:33 Shereen

Link to poster now emailed to owners friend so it can printed directly from page.

2010-12-28 14:22 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Updated the details to show up on the DL poster, we need the actual area he has gone missing from putting in the details. Poster is now ready for emailing out. Jan x

2010-12-28 14:18 Shereen

Thanks Jan thats much better.x

2010-12-28 14:16 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Photo/s done, I've done a headshot to bring him even closer. Keeping everything crossed this lovely boy is found soon. Good luck. Jan x

2010-12-28 14:06 Shereen

Thanks Jan ill email it now.x

2010-12-28 14:00 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Shereen email the photo over and I will have a look. Jan x

2010-12-28 13:47 Shereen

Photo recieved,trying to make photo clearer ATM

2010-12-28 12:36 Shereen

Thanks Karenn,ill give council a call tomorrow to make sure theyve loged that,I was going over to help with photos but owners have passed camera on to friends who are going to help make posters,they are having trouble getting photos from camera to pc at the moment,but once this is done the friend is going to email me a photo so it can be put on here.

2010-12-27 16:53 Karenn

Have sent an email to the council with the relevant details and numbers.

Hope all goes well for Tues

Last edited: 2010-12-27 16:53:41 by Karenn

2010-12-27 15:53 natalie

hi there, there is a found border collie male at rochdale dog rescue, under the urgent dogs list, approx a year old and fits the description of Toby so please take a look. I really hope he finds a lovely home when he is found, Natalie

2010-12-27 11:20 BC

Thanks Shereen, look forward to update

2010-12-26 21:54 Shereen

Ive managed to contact owner,cant tomorrow as owner busy but im going over tuesday to download a photo as owner has no internet access at mo,will get some posters/flyers made up and get some out...it sounds like somebody has probably taken in Toby as anytime hes got out before,he knows his way home,Owners left access open for him to get bk in with food out etc.
He is wearing a blue diamote collar,he is quite long haired with A bit of white on his chest area.hes Tall and big for his breed.Will also call the council tomorrow.

2010-12-26 20:22 Karenn

I will give the dog warden a call to be sure its confirmed unless can someone can do so before.

2010-12-26 19:42 BC

Owner says he has contacted the dog warden, if anyone knows the dogwarden in this area perhaps they would check with him or her, so see if the dog has been reported missing, thanks

2010-12-26 19:41 BC

Thank you both for your help, perhaps if someone else could ring the owner he might supply a photo, i spoke to Kate from Doglost she was going to ring him, but havnt heard whether she managed to speak to him or not, he has internet access

2010-12-26 19:20 Shirley4Collies

I have crossposted the link to Facebook and several email groups I am on .. hopefully that will mean more people on the look out - I have all fingers crossed that he is found safe and well very soon indeed. Stay safe. I have also posted details on website ~~~~~ http://lostandfoundbordercollies.weebly.com/lost-collies.html

2010-12-26 18:58 DogLostAngus

alerts have been sent out to all OX postcodes - hopefully we can get a similar picture on asap

2010-12-26 10:55 BC

Dogs name is Toby and he went missing from Didcot

2010-12-26 10:44 ESSJ - Area Co-ordinator Rutland

What town/postcode area has Spot gone missing from?

2010-12-26 10:36 BC

If anyone has any sightings of Toby, could they also inform the Rescue on 01344 450206 or 01545561711 as well as the owner, thanks

2010-12-26 10:32 BC

Toby was due to come into the Border Collie Spot Rescue, but went missing from the owners garden the day he was due to come. I have spoken to the owner and asked him to put Tobys details and Photos on Doglost, but noticed it was still not on here, so the info i have is a bit sketchy. He is 10 months old, not neutered, microchpped, and was wearing a tag, which may of come off. He is Black and White. Given normal info to owner, but not sure much is being done to find this dog, as he was being given to rescue.