Lost: Ginger, Brown And Black (White On Chest) Collie Cross Male In North West (L33)

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2019-08-12 17:56 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

https://doglost.co.uk/dog-blog.php?dogId=147249

Have had lots of alerts re a FOUND elderly dog in Kirkby as a possible match for BEN, DL ID 147249. The dog is not BEN and it would be a miracle if it was as he was 19/20 years old back in 2012. An elderly maybe the owner of the FOUND dog which is in very bad condition.

It would of been great to of found BEN, he brought so many people together and we are all still in touch doing what we all love best. So much time and effort went into finding BEN. Sending him big hugs wherever he is.

2013-09-17 22:14 Chris W

Still sending massive HUGS to Ben's Owners. Fingers crossed that they find closure soon. xxx Hugs xxx

2013-07-25 18:07 DogLostreggiemollieros

There is a Found dog at Leigh cat and dog's home has a look of Ben reference: St Helens 02412 I know Ben is chipped so make this less likely but if you want to check here is the link and you need to scroll across the photos http://leighdogsandcatshome.co.uk/straydogphotos.html

2013-05-15 23:30 J MO

Still looking out for Ben. Hope he is happy wherever he is

2013-04-29 19:13 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Cannot believe it is 12 months since Ben went missing. There are lots of people still looking out for him.

Thinking of you Ben wherever you are. xxx

2013-04-29 08:48 AnnieSparky

Poor Ben been missing a year now, hope he's happy wherever he is......still keeping a lookout xx

2013-03-01 20:52 Unknown

can anyone give a look please:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200135102972826&set=o.456551071082724&type=1

2013-01-06 00:14 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://www.doglost.co.uk/dog_blog.php?dogId=47103

FOUND on DL looks very similar to Ben but not him. Hope this gorgeous found boy is reunited with his family soon. xxx

2013-01-02 23:18 J MO

I hope the New Year brings some news on Ben. Still look out for him x

2012-09-21 20:31 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

liver1047 thanks for posting on Ben's page. Sadly he is still missing. Many thanks to everyone who is still looking out for him and cross checking found dogs. xxx

2012-08-20 21:09 liver1047

is ben found yet,,

2012-07-29 19:18 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/315409_266943473407533_597532405_n.jpg

This one is in Leigh and has been checked by Liz and she has confirmed it is not Ben. Thank you to everyone who is still cross checking and looking out for Ben, greatly appreciated. xxx

2012-07-22 00:08 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Visited Halewood RSPCA and BEN is not in there. There are a couple of elderly ones which maybe alerted for possible match for Ben.

Great to see you all still looking out for him. I've never known such support for a NW dog before in my neck of the woods helping on the ground searching. A MASSIVE THANK YOU TEAM BEN. xxx

2012-07-06 20:37 ClaireC

Hi just checking in for any update on Ben. Keep your chin & spirits high Liz even though it is hard. Please don't blame yourself as dogs do the "darndest" of things at times and we never really know why! xx

2012-07-01 20:03 AnnieSparky

Through Ben I got to know about DogsLost and have told so many friends and family about it we are all looking out for other missing dogs now too. But always know we are still looking out for Ben. We drive through Kirkby and Bickertaffe regularly, have poster sand leaflets in the car to put up and also check websites. xx

2012-06-28 00:02 spaniellover

oh ben just popped on to your page to see if you wrer home yet but your not, so i just thought id check on here just in case, thinking of you liz chin up girl, come on ben boy sniff your way back xxxx

2012-06-25 22:23 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thank you to the person who contacted Admin yesterday re an elderly dog in Halewood RSPCA, I called into the kennels this afternoon and there is only one elderly dog which could be mistaken for Ben, it is the same dog that was followed up Thursday 21.06.12, this dog is also a female.

Keep your chin up Liz, we are still on the look out for Ben. xxx

2012-06-25 13:11 liz

Thank you everyone. I am still heart broken,I am also upset about other dogs missing. Also Badger Boy and Kip. I miss him so much and still blaming myself for taking my eyes off him for a second.

2012-06-23 18:00 Sandra and Murphy cat

Liz,hope you are managing to keep your spirits up.

you and Ben are in my thoughts x

2012-06-22 15:45 J MO

Been out and about today around Mill Dam Park, Saxon Way Estate and Bickerstaffe. Lots of postersposters still up. Will be out 2moro leaflet dropping the Ormskirk side of Bicketstaffe for Bess so will also leaflet drop for Ben x

2012-06-22 12:28 Tri's Mum

At last i am back on D/L..I have had my star paper since yesterday..most will get them today & tomorrow..so thats when we might get some calls for new sightings on Ben. All Paws Crossed !!! xxx

2012-06-21 23:22 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Visited Halewood RSPCA this afternoon and had a look around the kennels. Did see the found elderly dog which was posted on the AW site. Hope it is reunited with its family soon. x

2012-06-21 21:21 AnnieSparky

Was out and about tonight in Bickerstaffe area.....keeping a look out for Ben. Have more posters with me to keep putting up. Fingers crossed the St Helens newspaper article brings good news xx

2012-06-21 20:45 Millys Mum

Hi Jan! Was just checkng in on Ben's page (good news about the latest newspaper article) and couldn't help but notice that the first mobile number mentioned appears to have one too many digits (possibly an extra zero after the code?). If so, it might give them a good 'excuse' to re-run the article next week! Hope that this latest piece of media coverage brings about the phone call Liz has been waiting for.

Last edited: 2012-06-21 20:57:16 by Millys Mum

2012-06-21 19:47 J MO

Hope the article on the St Helens Star brings that all important call. Will continue to drive around the area and poster around West Lancs x

2012-06-21 16:03 liz

Thankyou for your enduring support and love. Thankyou to Tri's mum & thankyou & Jan & everyone who has supported and helped. You have lifted me up again with your positivity in a really tough heartbreaking time. xxx

2012-06-21 13:42 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Great The St Helens Star have covered his story again and it is now in the actual paper and also online. Many thanks to them for putting it in and Tri's Mum for contacting the editor. Keeping everything crossed it brings some news. Good luck. x

2012-06-21 13:38 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/9772429.Have_you_seen_Ben_/?ref=mr

Have you seen Ben?

A TEAM of volunteers is desperately trying to track down a stray dog, which has been seen in St Helens.

The 19-year-old collie crossbreed, called Ben, has been spotted in Rainford, after disappearing from his home.

Jan Cavanagh, a volunteer for DogLost, said Ben’s 44-year-old owner Elizabeth Jenette is distraught. “The Star has been brilliant in the past in helping get missing dogs back.

“Ben has cataracts, he’s deaf and has stiff back legs, but for his age is very agile.

“He is ginger, brown and black with white on his chest and is medium-sized. He is microchipped, neutered and was wearing a red collar with address, but the telephone number is not in use.

“Please help look out for Ben and, if he is sighted, call one the following numbers 074030 039220 or 078385 48618, or contact Doglost either by phone on 0844 800 3220 or email admin@doglost.co.uk.”

2012-06-21 12:44 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Apologies Glynafon I pinked your post until it was followed up. Thanks for the alert on the found which Dee passed on via email, thanks Dee. :)

The found dog has now been checked out and a helper visited Halewood RSPCA to look at it and it is NOT Ben. Many thanks for taking your time to go to the kennels greatly appreciated.

There was also another found we were alerted to but completely different breed, again this one was followed up.

I spoke to the RSPCA earlier and the found had not been booked in but we did not think it was Ben. They do still have his poster up in the holding block along with other NW dogs. But we can put the onus on the kennels to match as they are very often busy and do have a lot of dogs going through the kennels. Thank you to the RSPCA for letting helper visit before they opened to check the found one out.

I will be calling into the kennels later this afternoon to have a look around.

Liz we are all still rooting for some news on Ben. xxx

2012-06-21 12:06 liz

Thankyou everyone and thankyou Jan. I am so grateful to all your help. Stress does funny things to a person. I know Ben got himself lost because his mind wasn't the same. I just hope he's in someone's house waiting for me to come and get him, if only they read the paper and make contact.

2012-06-21 10:46 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

I will be calling into Halewood RSPCA to look out for Ben and other missing NW dogs.

If there are any POSSIBLE MATCHES can they be emailed to Admin and not posted on Ben's page so we can follow them up and not build Liz's hopes up and cause her more stress. x

2012-06-21 09:47 Meru

Still sharing Ben on my FB page and will continue to do so.
Thinking of you and Ben xx

2012-06-21 06:17 DogLostGlynafon

Has this one been checked?

Found Dog
20 Jun 2012
Cross Breed

Location: Liverpool L36
Gender: Not Known
Colour: Brown Tan
Markings: Black/grey
Size: Medium
Our Ref:270700

For further details call 0845 241 7253 (local rate)
to amend, email info@animalwardens.co.uk quoting our ref and full postcode, attach picture if available

2012-06-20 23:29 spaniellover

liz im on bens page every night looking for news, and i think of you every night cos i no you still got hope, and you keep that hope, untill you hear any thing different, i dont no why but i still think some one has taken ben in, keep your sprits up girl with bens story in papers you never no some might turn up, and keep your eyes open while going back and fore to work xx

2012-06-20 23:03 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/9772429.Have_you_seen_Ben/

Liz the dog in the flats was NOT Ben.

The St Helen's Star have covered his story again, this time looks like it is in the paper which is delivered to houses. Just read it online. Thank you to Tri's Mum for contacting the paper and pushing it again. Keeping everything crossed it brings some news. Good luck Liz. xxx

2012-06-20 23:03 pixies peeps

On animal wardens 20.6.12 Found in LiverpoolL36 Medium crossbreed brown tan with blackgrey markings.Gender unknown 270700

2012-06-20 15:49 tobysdad

Saw this and thought of ben might be a long way but worth a tryhttp://www.nationalpetregister.org/fp/40237.htm

2012-06-19 00:36 liz

I drove all round Bickerstaffe and Rainford for 3 hours tonight. It was pitch black and I went up to Rainford.

Last edited: 2012-06-19 09:05:08 by liz

2012-06-19 00:27 liz

I am actually wondering if he's now joined the dogs in Rainbow Bridge. I just want to know.

Last edited: 2012-06-19 08:59:54 by liz

2012-06-19 00:21 liz

Jan, so if the team saw the dog that lived in flats, is it him? It lives in flat? It more than likely isn't him. I am so down.

Last edited: 2012-06-19 09:14:33 by liz

2012-06-18 23:21 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Tri's Mum has been onto the St Helen's Star again and hopefully they will put something in this week.

There was a reported sighting yesterday morning in the Rainford area of an elderly dog on its own. Team Ben helpers followed it up and actually seen the dog which lives in flats. Thank you to the caller and well done to Team Ben helpers.

Liz we did not want to alert you and build you hopes up again, great people are still looking out for him and seeing the posters. x

2012-06-17 20:48 liz

Thanks for your comments spaniellover, AnnieSparky, Jan and J Mo.

I have found this, and Ben had most of these symptoms, apart from lack of appetite. No wonder he got lost.

Possible Signs of Canine Cognitive Dysfunction
Similar to Alzheimer's disease in humans, Canine Cognitive Dysfunction is caused by physical changes in the brain and its chemicals. Past studies have shown that some older dogs with CCD have brain lesions similar to those that physicians see in Alzheimer's patients. The result of these changes is a deterioration of how your dog thinks, learns, and remembers, which causes behavioral changes that can disrupt the lives of both you and your dog. If your senior dog doesn't seem to be herself, she may be part of the large percentage of dogs age 10 and older who experience some symptoms of CCD, which include various stages of confusion and disorientation. Your dog may have CCD if she has a number of the following behaviors:
• Becomes lost in familiar places around the home or backyard
• Becomes trapped behind familiar furniture or in room corners
• Has trouble finding and using doors and negotiating stairways
• Does not respond to her name or familiar commands
• Is withdrawn and unwilling to play, go for walks, or even go outside
• Does not recognize or is startled by family members, toys, etc.
• Frequently trembles or shakes, either while standing or lying down
• Paces or wanders aimlessly throughout the house
• Has difficulty learning new tasks, commands, or routes
• Frequently soils in the house, regardless of the frequency she is brought outside
• Sleeps more during the day, less during the night
• Stares
• at walls or into space and is startled by interior lighting, the television, etc.
• Seeks less and less of your attention, praise, and play
• Is hesitant to take treats, drink fresh water, or eat fresh food

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2012-06-17 13:44 J MO

I've been revisiting the West Lancs Vets and postering the supermarkets. We need to start postering Melling and Rainford

2012-06-17 12:59 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks to everyone who is still looking out for Ben. We are still trying to get something in the St Helen's Star, they did put it on their online version and it was too late to go into the weekly edition. Would really help if it does get published in the actual paper. xxx

2012-06-17 11:52 AnnieSparky

Am keeping a close lookout for Ben and still going out around areas when possible. Keep doing your checks Liz when you can....dogs home, kennels etc...xx

2012-06-16 16:17 spaniellover

just been looking at all your pics again ben boy they are lovely, liz thinking of you and ben, hope he comes home soon xx

2012-06-16 15:41 liz

Thankyou everyone. I am still distraught. I miss him so much & I don't know what else to say. Thankyou. xxx

2012-06-15 19:13 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks moonbear and welcome on board DogLost.

There is a found GSD on DogLost ID 40397 I've been alerted to as a possible match for Ben, it is not him.

Thank you to everyone who is looking out for Ben. xxx

2012-06-15 18:34 Sandra and Murphy cat

I have just recently joined doglost but can't help with the search for Ben as i live in Scotland.It makes me really sad reading about all the missing dogs but Ben has touched my heart as he is so old and vulnerable.I can't begin to imagine what you are going through Liz but i hope you manage to stay strong for Ben.I really hope he is okay and will be home with you soon.x x

2012-06-14 23:06 spaniellover

still hoping your in some where warm and being fed and loved ben

2012-06-14 13:36 Lankeela

Just checking in to see if there is any news. Still thinking of poor old Ben and Liz.

2012-06-12 20:42 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

It has been confirmed the elderly found dog in Ashfield is not Ben. Thank you to those who followed it up today and the poster who alerted us at the beginning for sending myself a photo and message...........

No sorry it's not..he was much darker in colour..sorry if I raised any false hope xxxxx

2012-06-12 12:25 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

If there are any possible matches for Ben can they please be alerted to admin@doglost.co.uk, posted on the FB group page or contact one of the contact numbers so we want check them out? This is to take the pressure off Liz. Thanks. x

2012-06-12 12:23 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks for posting re the found dog we are aware of it and it is being checked. Ben went missing in Kirkby MERSEYSIDE and this found one is KIRBY in Ashfield and as already mentioned miles away from where Ben went missing. x

2012-06-12 09:34 Paw

Don't want to dash your hopes but Kirby in Ashfield is in Nottinghamshire, miles away from Liverpool where Ben is missing from, so unless picked up by someone in a car it's very unlikely to be him. Keep up the good work searching Team Ben.

2012-06-12 08:42 DebsAndGreg

Please let it be Ben. Fingers & paws crossed

2012-06-12 08:18 Trish at K9 Dreams

There is a post on Majorjet FB page.Old Dog found 10/6 Greenwood Drive area of Kirkby. Taken by Ashfield District dog warden. Longish brown hair, collie type.

2012-06-10 16:59 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, great you have visited Leigh C&D Home in person to check, we know it not nice to see all the dogs in kennels but it has to be done, it cannot be down to the kennels to make matches. It is important kennels are checked by owners or someone who knows the dog's at least once a week to cover the 7 day stray pound period. The two main kennels for the areas Ben could be in are Halewood RSPCA and Leigh C&D Home. I do go into Halewood when I can and MojoPeanut was in there the other day. x

2012-06-10 14:44 liz

Just back from Leigh Dogs & Cats Home and as soon as I saw his Missing Poster along with the others, that was it. I just started crying again. After looking at the dogs, I asked one of the assistants, and he took me to a padlocked area where the strays are kept seperate. He wasn't there either, but the faces on all those dogs who just want to go home, was just heartbreaking, and the ones looking for a home.

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2012-06-10 11:49 liz

Hi Foggy and JMo, yes it makes sense that he would've been taken there if found. I am going in next half hour with my mum. Still haunted by dreams of him and thinking of all the other people who's dogs are missing. Thank you Sasha and to everyone helping to find him. xxxx

2012-06-09 19:38 Sasha

When it was thought Ben was around Mill Dam area I was going after work in the mornings, unfortunately now the search has moved I cant go but log in each day to keep updated. I just wanted to say I think you re all fantastic dedicated people,and Liz my heart goes out to you + each day I hope you get the news we re all praying for, you have a tremendous support group. xxx

2012-06-09 18:29 J MO

Liz, foggy is right and I've heard of other owners who have called to be told there dogs weren't there but when they visited their dogs where there.

PLEASE GO xx

2012-06-09 18:04 foggy

Liz you must go to Leigh cats and Dogs home in Leigh, dont just phone them. Twice last week on two different peoples dogs that were lost, when they phoned they were told that there were no dogs fitting their descriptions, when they went up their dogs were there. So my advice would be to visit there and not just call x

2012-06-08 22:37 liz

Thankyou Jan, Kath, MojoPeanut, AnnieSparky. MojoPeanut, I haven't tried Leigh Dog and Cats home, so will call them tomorrow. Thankyou for looking everyone and postering. xxx

2012-06-08 22:01 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Some of Team Ben helpers have been out tonight and posted the Rainford area. Thank you Team for going out in the awful weather we are having at the moment.

Kath, MojoPeanut and AnnieSparky thanks for the update. Re the sighted dog at least we know to eliminate this one. xxx

2012-06-08 21:29 AnnieSparky

Had a search through and around Bickerstaffe this evening. Bens posters are still up along the roads. Stopped by Bickerstaffe Church, looks like there is a fair there tomorrow on the field so lots of people (hopefully) will see the posters.

2012-06-08 14:43 MojoPeanut

Looked in Halewood RSPCA today for Ben but no sign. Liz are you checking in regularly with Leigh Cats & Dogs home? If he is around /Bickerstaffe he could well have been taken there. I know he is chipped but you never know.

2012-06-08 14:01 kath

Saw a ben look-a-like in rainford yesterday near Springfield estate, just wanted to confirm it was definately not Ben in case you get other reports. It was quiet underweight and looked like it was scavanging and was the same gingery colour as Ben. It definately had no black patches like Ben has though and its hearing was good too as a dog barked a distance away and it heard straight away and took of down the field. Tried to catch up but couldn't manage with the kids in tow lol. Had a drive around but it had vanished. Am 100% it wasn't Ben though.

2012-06-07 08:31 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Morning Liz, thanks for the texts and missed calls (I was driving to work). The SIGHTED is not Ben, there are photo/s on DL which I uploaded ID 39933. You can see them for yourself to put your mind at rest. I knew it was not Ben or Encasa. xxx

2012-06-07 03:56 liz

I've just seen this on Encasa's site. 31st May. Could this be Ben?
Cocopops
This is a real longshot but I'd rather it be checked just in case. There's a dog been sighted only 39933 which is being described as a german shepherd wearing a red collar, nervous and can't be caught. It's near Liverpool so a bit further down than where Encasa was lost but could have been dropped there. The only thing is the pictures of the sighted dog look darker than Encasas fur but after 2 weeks he could be dirty. Can someone pls check.

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2012-06-07 03:49 liz

Can't sleep.

Please let him be found safe and alive. x

Last edited: 2012-06-07 04:25:16 by liz

2012-06-07 01:01 liz

Thankyou AnnieSparky. I am wondering if he did wander through the fields towards Rainford and is hiding out there or been taken in by peops who don't know about him. Even my friends who were cynical about him being alive are now ringing me to say there is still hope. I could kick myself that the day after he went missing, me and my brother didn't just walk round the corner or drive round to that area, instead of concentrating on around my estate. I am still crying and about to go to bed but my lovely friend Daniel rang me for the past hour. I'm off now so night everyone. xxx

2012-06-07 00:57 liz

Kitty, sorry just seen yours about the mobile. Tried it and gives you nothing. 07827275163 and 07827 275163. x

2012-06-06 23:13 AnnieSparky

Will be keeping a lookout for Ben, will be driving in Bickerstaffe area this week.......so will be closely looking. x

2012-06-06 22:34 liz

Oh and that house on Saxon, the blinds have been shut two days in a row and no car, so I presme they have gone away. Thanks everyone for your positivity. Let's hope St Helen's Star may bring some news. Helen and Deb, have you had any calls with anything? I know you would let me know. xxx

2012-06-06 22:32 liz

Ben was seen by someone who's door I knocked on, who lives in Bickerstaffe, and she said the night after he disappeared he was in and out of the road and fields looking lost. She saw him in her rear view mirror and couldn't be bothered stopping. The farmer's wife made an effort three nights in a row with her little boy. He kept coming up to the house but would run away when they tried to approach him and then she drove down the lane trying to catch him but he disappeared. He was seen in same area the following day by someone who is scared of dogs and mistook him for 'having a go.' There aren't any other loose rough collies around in that area. I've been round all the farms along with Jenny, Jan, Gill and Deb and others handing out flyers. Before that, with Helen and Andrea and really sorry, forgotten names, around where I live. Everyone knows Ben. I purposely walked the long way home tonight along Shevingtons Rd towards shops and Pingwood then route home that sniffer dog took us round, Redwood Road. In opposite direction. I came home again with a heavy heart. I can only think the worse. He was frightened, starving, and finding it hard to walk and maybe curled up in bush where he can't be found, and passed away. I just want closure. Even if he is found dead, I want his collar back. I wouldn't want to see the remains. I couldn't bear that.

2012-06-06 21:10 missy

hi Liz, this is a good idea, maybe you are right that ben has never been to mill dam, like you say the sniffer dogs did not go that way. You say that he was spotted behind your house, maybe this is where you should be looking and knocking on peoples doors. When is the paper out.

2012-06-06 15:07 liz

I'm setting off again with his poster in my bag. There was no one in yesterday. It's xxx Saxon Way, but I am going to have to word it, as though I am knocking on all doors. His poster has been on their street for weeks. It's not there now. The vet said he wouldn't die of his disability but if he was starving and stuck somewhere he wouldn't be able to move and go and get food or water. I am sure all the local dog walkers and my neighbours would've confronted them if it was him.

2012-06-06 14:19 Kitty

I've been watching this thread from afar, unable to help with the search but hoping and praying that Ben is found soon. Just a thought - has anyone done a google search for the old mobile number on Ben's tag, just in case anyone found him and mentioned the number on the web? (Search both with and without spaces, for example, 07000 000000 and 07000000000)

2012-06-06 14:07 Alfies mum

I thought the same Mossey, if theres no answer its worth pushing a leaflet through the letter box of the house and also neighbouring houses xx

2012-06-06 10:58 Mossey

It might be worth knocking at the door on saxon way ?

2012-06-06 00:25 liz

Thank you Jan and Alex and AnnieSparky & all you fab people. I've not been able to access this site until after midnight.

I want to call all these places, but I've been left very short for the next couple of months, after the £400 mobile and phone bills and the amount of fuel I've used. I appreciate you doing this for me, peops. I am scared that vet may have had him pts and not checked with me and knows more than he is letting on, unless that's my paranoia.

I walked to work and back again on some of our walks. Got soaked coming home so didn't hang about tonight. There is a house on Saxon Way that I passed yesterday, and something threw itself at the window, but didn't bark. Like it was trying to get my attention. Ben would do that on the patio doors if I left him outside too long. I am probably being paranoid again. Didn't do it today as windows were shut.

When I came home, I rang the micro chip people and they said "Is Ben still missing?" To which I burst into floods of tears again. He's not been reported to them and they have my correct details.

I've done nothing but cry everyday. No one seems to understand. My colleagues don't understand why I don't want to joke with them and act 'normal'. My house is empty & I just want to know where he is. How can life ever been the same again?

I just hope, if someone does have him, they come forward soon because this is causing me such heartache.

Fingers crossed the St Helen's Star brings some fresh news.


xxxxx

2012-06-05 21:22 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Everything possible has been done. For as long as Ben is missing he will stay on DogLost and he will be looked for and cross checked. It is great that he is chipped especially with being the age he is. Come on Ben make our day and lets see you back HOME with your mum.

alex, thanks for posting the details, vets in the area/surrounding areas have been alerted but we can double check the ones you have posted were done. x

2012-06-05 21:20 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

WELL DONE and THANK YOU Team Ben for the postering and leafleting the houses today. ♥♥♥ Was great to get the text that Oscar (Dallas's pooch) had finally been CHIPPED, Mossey that is what you call mobile chipping! LOL x

2012-06-05 20:05 alex

Hi Liz, If Ben is being sheltered by some one in the Rainford, Ormskirk, Rufford, Aughton areas, they may possibly have taken him to see a vet for a check up. Enquiries and a picture of Ben forwarded to vets in the locality may help. The vets in the area are, Barn Lodge,54a Southport Rd, ORMSKIRK L39 / 01695 572837....T Dixon, 142 Liverpool Rd , AUGHTON ORMSKIRK L39 , 01695 422862...Rufford Vet Group,9 Holly Lane, Rufford,L40, 01704 821204...and possibly the best one to try is Balmoral Vet surgery,35a Ormskirk Rd,Rainford WA118DQ,01744 886284. You may have already done this,sorry if I am covering old ground.

2012-06-05 08:53 AnnieSparky

Team Ben....Sorry cant make it to help today.....I do have some posters and fliers ready, and will be able to go out later this week. Do the roads to Bickerstaffe need topping up? Good luck today :)

2012-06-05 01:23 liz

Crying again, Ben was, is, or was, the most gentle dog you could ever meet. He wouldn't have a go at anyone. If whoever saw him on Coach Rd, the Sunday after, he disappeared, tremendously mis understood him, if it was him. He would've been gently trying to find his way to a person for help. He can't see or hear. He would've been more frightened. I could hear all the celebrations today and tonight and thought "Life is going on, but not for me and Ben." I don't know how all the other people on here are handling their losses with such dignity. I can't hold back. I miss my little golden boy.

The thought he may have been shot for this, or pts, frightened, bewildered, and wanting his mum is sheer torture. He was a little old man that needed to be with me in his final days. That vet frightened me when he said he thought someone had him pts. What an insensitive idiot. He wasn't the usual vet who had retired the week after Ben disappeared. What is the point of microchipping? Why wouldn't questions be asked? Or the warden informed? I can imagine him crying, whimpering for me.

Last edited: 2012-06-05 01:36:48 by liz

2012-06-05 01:14 liz

PS I had to come off FB. I couldn't bear looking at his photos anymore, or of me and it doesn't mean anything to me anymore. It used to be my fun blog, but it started to stress me out and remind me of what I've lost. xx

2012-06-05 01:10 liz

Thank you MojoPeanut & Team Ben. I had to work tonight and again tomorrow, despite working for a bank.

I am raw with grief and now have put some pictures on my landing ready for the memory box in the attic. The ones I just can't bear to look at.

I walked to work again this afternoon, setting off at 3ish and wandering round our old walks, past Pingwood area, then from 9 - 10 back. It was quite scarey coming home, as there were lots of teenage lads around. I truly believe Ben, has never been to Mill Dam because the sniffer dogs weren't interested, and too many people are aware of him. He was seen the day after he disappeared, behind where my house is, and on way to Bickerstaffe. The farmer's wife couldn't remember if she saw him a week later or 2 weeks later. I tend to think it was same week. I think he's got his legs stuck in the wet mud in a stream and been ubnable to propel himself out and died of fright, starvation & stress. I still can't forgive myself & never will.

Thankyou for being positive everyone. I got a warning at work Saturday as I accidentily left my mobile on in my bag and it went off, mid call. If it had been on my desk, I would've been escorted from the building and sacked.

Ben helped me cope with loss of my salary, husband and maybe soon our home. I don't know how much more I can take. I am so depressed and nearly went to A&E at the weekend because I had a hysterical fit. Luckily my mum was here to calm me down.

I just want to let you know how grateful I am, and my state of mind right now. I can't take time off sick, I don't get paid & am on trial. xxxxxx

2012-06-04 18:13 MojoPeanut

Team Ben are meeting tomorrow morning, Tuesday 5th, at 10am to poster and leaflet the remaining road/estate surrounding millennium park. If you can spare a couple of hours and want to join us please let us know on Ben's fb page or leave a message on this wall. All help greatly appreciated and accepted xx

2012-06-04 08:36 DEE

hi guys i no some people dont believe in animal communication etc pea hordsley i meant to be really really good shes on tv and has helped with all kinds, maybe she could be contacted as a last resort and im sure we are all gonna keep sharing and looking out for ben come home now please ben xxxxx

2012-06-03 20:45 missy

Hi Liz, try and stay positive, you are bound to feel the way you do, with whats happened. Like someone said, maybe putting up posters in rainford and beyond, the papers will also help, maybe knocking on doors even in rainford or beyond. Thinking of you x keep strong x

2012-06-03 15:34 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/9740131.Search_continues_for_missing_dog/

St Helen's Star guy I spoke to the other day has put something in their online edition, it was too late to go in the actual paper last week due the cut off time. Many thanks to him for getting it online so quick.

Off to Halewood RSPCA now to have a look around for any possible matches.

Team Ben and others will still be on the look out for Ben, he could well of been taken in by now and his finder unaware he is being looked for. x

2012-06-03 15:19 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Tx Dallas...

2012-06-03 14:29 liz

I forgot to mention that dallas. Also, alex with the St Helen's Star, hopefully someone has him in that area.

2012-06-03 14:13 dallas

Snippets, don't worry, it's my number on the posters x

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2012-06-03 14:00 liz

Hi everyone, I know grief is making me irrational. It's just reminding me of his loss and I am grateful. I still have my numbers. I just can't take the sightings that turn out not to be him. As for fostering a dog, I can't consider it at all. I am searching for work so I don't get my house repossessed and it it comes to that, I will be moving back to my paretns, and they would have accepted Ben with me, but they wouldn't accept a new addition as they aren't dog people and are elderly.

2012-06-03 13:39 Snipets dog grooming (Kirkby)

Liz. I know your tired, stressed out and losing hope. That's understandable but I and others will still be looking for you. I drive home to the same estate as you in the early hours 6 mornings a week searching and i know, as i can see you are a passionate dog lover that you would want to know, even if its not good news. How will we contact you if you have changed your numbers on the posters all around the area. Please make sure you give your new number to someone you trust at Dogs Lost

2012-06-03 12:47 DogLostJulie - Area Co-ordinator - Surrey & South London

Liz - I just wondered if you considered fostering a dog in need as someone else suggested - it is not to replace dear Ben but would maybe help you at this difficult time to have another dog to care for - there are so many in desperate need at this time and it would be something positive for you and give you another focus. I can only imagine your upset and distress but we are all praying and hoping Ben will be reunited with you. Julie x

2012-06-03 11:50 alex

Liz, be brave and continue to have hope. It is understandable to feel disheartened the way you do after talking to those at the market....the sightings around Kirkby may have been a local dog roaming and not Ben, but remember the farmer's wife's sighting of him in Bickerstaff would appear to have been genuine. It is rare to see loose dogs roaming round country lanes, so there is a good chance that the dog she saw was Ben. When dogs are on their own, the natural survival instincts kick in...no matter what age, the will to carry on endures. If someone has taken Ben in, they will have phoned the number on his tag, found it is no longer in use and may have incorrectly assumed he has been abandoned. They may be sheltering him , or have helped in some other way. If this is the case, you need to reach this person via the media, posters and leaflets. If Jan manages to get Ben's story into the St Helen's Star, that will help tremendously,and posters and leaflets in the Rainford areas may well bring in new information. Remember, there is always hope. x

2012-06-03 10:31 liz

MISSING sign I mean.

2012-06-03 10:31 liz

Thankyou Julie and BaileyP.I just wake up with this loss and pain. I've driven round everywhere before and after work. I've asked everyone I see. The market was the final straw. I am hoping someone took him in after the farm and eventually comes forward. If not, he may have passed away. Even if a body hasn't been found, he could have hidden right under a bush where no one would find him. It's hard being optimistic. My MISIG sign is still in the back of my car. I've got all his stuff in the boot just in case. It will stay there for as long as possible. If I get more sightings I will be off looking.

2012-06-03 00:19 BaileyP

While I can totally understand how terribly stressful all this has been for you Liz, and your need to get on with your life, there is no evidence at all that Ben has passed away. Dogs don't think like humans - they don't think 'I want to be alone'. If they get lost they want to be back with the owner that they love and who loves them. Dogs are not humans and don't plan ahead like we do. They live in the moment. Ben was sprightly and keen to rush outside. He didn't creep off to die. He got himself lost in the dark and is, hopefully waiting for someone to find him.

Move on with your life by all means, and cut yourself off from us all, but, in your heart, believe that Ben is alive and keep looking out for him. I'm always here on the phone if you need me. Xx

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2012-06-02 21:40 DogLostJulie - Area Co-ordinator - Surrey & South London

I am so sad for you please don't give up there is always hope and no body has been found and if he had weak back legs he really couldn't have got too far away. It may be someone has him and is looking after him for some reason. There is always hope. Praying for you and Ben. Julie x

2012-06-02 20:36 liz

Thankyou guys. Today, I spoke to people on Kirkby market who knew who I was and Ben. I was told the dog seen everywhere is a local dog at Mill Dam including the one seen 3 times, one was the dog walker, who enquired, was a younger than Ben. I have now decided to call it quits. Ben was 21 and I now think in more pain than I realised. I have come to the conclusion that he did run off to be alone and is dead and please can we close this case. I need to grieve and move on. Thankyou Team Ben but I know in my heart, he's not coming back. I am changing my numbers and mine and Ben's facebook pages as I can't take anymore. One day we will meet in another life. Thanks everyone. Goodbye. xxx

2012-06-02 16:00 Unknown

Sorry to see Ben is still missing. Hope he is found soon. He sounds as elusive as Paddy. (Central) All xd.

2012-06-01 00:09 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Met up tonight at Mill Dam Park with 6 Team Ben helpers, to broaden the search we had a look around the areas going towards Rainford, then headed back to Mill Dam Park and walked around the area checking the field opposite the carpark. Left at 10.10pm when it started to get dark. It was very quiet in the park tonight.

Thank you to everyone who turned out tonight. We need another sighting to know where to concentrate on. x

2012-05-31 18:09 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?sugexp=chrome,mod%3D1&q=L32+2AU&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x487b187f67c0545f:0x53c70c9978ef25a1,Kirkby+L32+2AU&gl=uk&ei=zqXHT5nvDaKw0AW9oNHADw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQ8gEwAA

Address for the park:
Mill Dam Park
Mill Lane
Kirkby
L32 2AU

TEAM BEN are meeting up tonight at 7.00pm for anyone who is in the area and wants to join us please do come along. x

2012-05-31 16:47 liz

Hi Alex. Yes the day after he went missing, I rang Vodaphone & they no longer have that number to reactivate as a redirection to my new one or change back. I rang it & it's a dead line.

2012-05-31 16:22 alex

Liz, this is just a thought which you may have already considered and had to dismiss due to personal or practical reasons....it is regarding the mobile number no longer in use on Ben's tag. Could you re-activate that mobile number by transferring it to your new network by obtaining a PAC code...if you are on the same mobile network as before, it should be easy to tell the provider that you want to switch back to your old number. Ben would then have the advantage of having a working number on his collar. Hope this helps.

2012-05-31 13:43 liz

Not sure when St Helen's Star will show his poster geny. Snipets, thankyou, not sure what they are called. Will find out and will email latest posters.

2012-05-31 12:36 Snipets dog grooming (Kirkby)

Liz. Just a long shot but i noticed this week that the grass cutting team were out doing the fields behind the church in Shevingtons Lane.not sure in this modern age if they are council or a private company but it may be worth finding their base and postering them. After all they are all around the surrounding area and cutting the grass on fields that are close to woods where he could be hiding. Just a thought i wanted to share.

2012-05-31 11:44 missy

I think the papers will definately help Liz and your probably right, in searching that area and beyond. When is the story going in the papers?

2012-05-31 10:31 liz

Yes he could be further afield and the papers will definitely help. The sniffer dog just stayed around the farm. That was 3 weeks ago, so he could be anywhere. I didn't like the vet suggesting someone may have taken him to be pts but they would have to catch him first. He's a little runner when he wants to be. Mischievious. Especially when he doesn't want to go back on the lead.

2012-05-31 09:23 wirral groomer

Thats positive news from Alex and the vet that Ben could well be surviving out there. :-) . When the sniffer dogs take you to the farm where do they go then ? Do they just stop at the farm ? Wonder if he is hiding out around there still. , he might come out today with it being cooler and hopefully the rain will create some puddles for him to drink from where ever he is , please let us have some sightings today :-)

2012-05-30 22:53 alex

Hi Liz. I think your theory about Ben heading off to Rainford/ surrounding areas is a good one. My elderly collie cross Cassie escaped from a local vet surgery many years ago. Despite Cassie being very poorly, we received a call a week later from a lady who found her lying fast asleep one morning in her front garden. Cassie had travelled approx ten miles and had ended up in Gatacre. I think you and the team are right to consider promoting Ben's plight in the St Helen's press and searching the Rainford areas and beyond. Wishing you the very best of luck.

2012-05-30 22:20 liz

geny, the first sniffer dog, took us an alternative way to the park we normally go on, which eventually took us to the farm he was seen at 3 weeks ago.

alex, yes my details are up to date. We lived in Morecambe for 14 years before moving here 2 yrs ago.

2012-05-30 22:17 alex

Hi Liz.I just wondered if you updated Ben's microchip details with his new address when you moved from Preston to Kirkby? If you didn't, and he is, or has been found, will whoever is searching be able to trace you?

2012-05-30 19:09 missy

That's a shame, but others are still aware of Ben and are looking out. Liz when Ben dissapeared did you see which way he went? If like you say his mind was not what it was, then maybe he has gone off in a totally different direction, however I am sure you have lots of posters up everywhere. I lost a pet once and looked everywhere and he was in next doors garden.

2012-05-30 14:56 liz

geny just re read your comment. The only person around was a roofer and he would have ample view from where he was but didn't see anything.

2012-05-30 13:25 liz

Thanyou AnnieSparky and geny xx

2012-05-30 13:23 liz

Thankyou BaileyP and thankyou Jan for your support.
I am just back from the house where the dog warden went into check. I had the whole neigbourhood out too.
I spoke to the vet earlier and he said Ben's condition would not cause his death and the fact he was seen running round 2 weeks ago, means he may be hiding out, living a nomadic life, as he put it. He said if he hadn't been seen for 5 weeks, then the likelihood is he may have passed away. He also said someone may have had him put down without scanning him, but really, vets should scan and call the owner. The thought that he has been put to sleep without me there, is killing me. At least everyone is aware of him. Still devastated.

2012-05-30 13:23 AnnieSparky

So disappointed, thanks for quick updates Jan. Just checking on my lunchbreak. Will be down tomorrow to Mill Dam at 7pm.
Liz, you are doing fantastic x

2012-05-30 13:07 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Dog has been checked out and it is NOT Ben. Thank you to the DW for acting so quickly. We are all gutted as it sounded really promising.

Liz you did really well and kept control. Sending you a big hug. xxx

2012-05-30 12:54 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Possible lead, there has been a report of someone who has a dog fitting Ben's description which they have found. This is being being followed up. Will update when it has been checked out.

Come on Ben let it be you. xxx

2012-05-30 12:48 missy

Maybe you are right, if that was a confirmed sighting then maybe its worth spreading the word further a field.

2012-05-30 10:55 liz

I think he's gone further afield, to Rainford because he was heading in that direction the night the farmer's wife drove down the lane with her full beam on trying to catch him. He darted into a field in that direction and was seen on Coach Rd the following day. He will be all scruffy and filthy by now, muddy and fur all matted. I'm waiting for the vet call me back with some advice on his health and if he would survive. I know it's not possible for him to say because we don't know what has happened to him, but with his degenerative illness, I'd like to know what his opinion is on his chances of survival. The vet who saw him in March has retired and that's so upsetting as he was a kindly scottish gent who was kind to Ben and knew how much he meant to me.

2012-05-30 08:32 BaileyP

Morning Liz! Sending big ((((((hugs)))))))) to you. Old boys like Ben (and Tommy)) have such resilience. I'm sure that he is finding shady spots to rest in. If he is like Tommy he will spend 95% of his time asleep - if he's in the garden he lies for hours in the shade. Ben will be in a little routine of his own now - sleeping and having a little wander from time to time to find food or water. We have to hope that someone is around when he has his wander. Thinking of you as usual today.x

2012-05-30 08:03 liz

I also keep remembering things like, in the past few weeks, he would wander off, and he did 3 times in the last few weeks. Like he forgot who I was and didn't stay around me like he always had done. His mind was definitely affected. Like any dog owner, you don't want to believe that. I always had my eye on him and he got to wandering away and I had to run after him and get him back on the lead. It was only a matter of time before I lost sight of him. I keep trying to go over it, rationalise it. He disappeared from my front door, so it's not like we were in a strange place. I let him off the lead, because being on the lead, he would stagger and pull like it was painful for him. I feel so guilty and sick. I can't bear not knowing. Ben please show yourself.

2012-05-30 07:53 liz

Sent lots of photos to Jan before work yesterday, of Ben, sniffing the air, just lying on the grass last year. I broke down, it was 4pm and I was about to go to work. Where is he? It is a living nightmare not knowing. When I took to the road and fields, I was looking for a body. I found nothing but I noticed lots of farmers out and about. Surely if he was dead someone would've found him. I don't know what anyone else thinks, but if a little old man with dementia was out there, where would he be? The vet who saw him a couple of weeks before, said he had a healthy heart. He wasn't ready to pass away, he was happy. He had a sunny nature. He jumped up at me for food and attention but his back legs kept giving way and he would land on his back. If you saw him the weeks leading up to him missing, he looked like he was drunk as he could barely stand up straight. This is what baffles me. How could he have wandered off so far? I no longer care what people think of me or say on here. I only want to know where my boy is and get some kind of closure or a reunion. Thankyou everyone for your support. I am awake and crying again and feeling the pain and loss. If anyone has ever been through this they will understand.

2012-05-29 20:54 wirral groomer

Couldnt find Ben on the first page then, felt my heart start pounding at the chance he had been found :-( . Sounds like you have been very proactive today Liz :-) never know you could be hot on his tail as to where he has wondered off to. Just reading some reunited and read about Lizzy the very nervous dog missing since last October which has been living rough since then , has now been caught and reunited this month ( 7months through winter too ) Bens been wondering for 5/6 weeks and no sign of a body been found so he must be still out there waiting to be found . Hopefully very soon too :-) Ben has got the weather on his side as long as he gets access to water and food I recon he will be doing ok out there :-) he might go back to the pond if he gets thirsty . The more your out there the sooner he will be home :-) everyone is waiting for this reuinion :-)

2012-05-29 20:21 missy

I have been looking at this for a while, I am not in the area, if I was I would help you look for Ben. That was a good idea Liz had that Ben had carried on walking. did you see anyone to speak to on your walk to ask. You are all doing a great job.

2012-05-29 20:20 BaileyP

Fantastic Liz! Great idea to do a walk like that to retrace his steps. As you say he would feel the vibrations from passing vehicles. My Tommy still tries to jump towards passing cars even though, theoretically he can't see or hear the. He was always a car wheel chaser!! Xxx

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2012-05-29 17:32 PA

Thankyou for putting last comment on moderation i was just signing in to do it.
LIZ keep up the good work im sure all yours & team Bens hard work will pay of very soon. Good luck & keep your chin up. PA.

2012-05-29 16:54 STE

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2012-05-29 16:53 STE

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2012-05-29 14:58 liz

The roads were very busy with fast moving HGVs very close to the pathway. It was quite scarey. You could get hit easily and Ben wouldn't hear a sound but could hear vibrations. If he only came out at night, it would be quieter. Where could Ben have gone after the farm? If he has gone back to Mill Dam, it really isn't that far away is it? A few miles.

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2012-05-29 14:50 liz

I've just returned from 2 hr walk from house up to County Rd, past Walkden Farm. Am sunburnt but I wanted to get a better perspetive of Ben's movements. I can see how he crossed fields and was seen by the fisheries, then after that, how he ended up at the farm. I wonder if he travelled on towards Rainford after that, rather than back tracking Mill Dam. I had his lead with me in my bum bag and my trainers on, hoping to glimpse him in the fields. I climbed under bridges and went into streams in case he was sleeping.

Today, 29th May, it is 2 years today that we moved here. Ex hubby drove away and left us forever. We made it our home.

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2012-05-29 14:17 BaileyP

Sasha - several of us have tried and tried to get the Echo to run a story but no luck. The paid adverts were the only way we could get him in.

2012-05-29 13:51 Lankeela

Ok, didn't think so but would hate him to be missed because it wasn't checked out. Still checking in every day to keep up to date.

2012-05-29 13:01 Sasha

What about Liverpool echo doing a report on Ben, I know his pic was in lost + found but think they should do a story xxx

2012-05-29 12:53 MojoPeanut

Not Ben. Ben has been neutered and this boy is entire. Also, he is too dark. Thanks for posting anyway xx
Also regarding Mossey's post below. We are meeting up on Thursday night at 7pm - not tonight. All help very welcome xx

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2012-05-29 12:45 Lankeela

I don't think for a minute its him but there is a dog on the found page that you may like to check out, found in Lincolnshire. Painfuly thin poor lad. http://www.doglost.co.uk/dog_blog.php?dogId=39872

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2012-05-29 11:34 Mossey

There is a group of us going to meet up and re do all the posters and re canvas the areas we have done and possibly cover a bit of a wider area. we are meeting at mill dam car park at 7pm anyone who is interested
Sorry for any confusion, this is THURSDAY AT 7PM we are meeting not tonight

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2012-05-29 10:41 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

I am in work and accessing via phone. Will read comments properly asap.

I've briefly spoken to the St Helen's newsdesk and will email them in more detail during lunchtime. Will update later. X

2012-05-29 08:39 twinks

did anyone manage to check with lady who takes in strays?

2012-05-29 08:35 STE

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2012-05-29 07:45 Polly

Hello Team Ben. You are doing a wonderful job, just had a thought, if everyone put posters of Ben in their cars even more people will see he is lost. Hopefully he wil be home safe and sound very soon.

2012-05-29 06:53 BaileyP

Would it be a good idea to put an advert in The St Helen's Star? I don't know the paper but will put Bens advert in there if you think it a good idea Jan. Will text you too to ask. X

2012-05-29 06:21 Snipets dog grooming (Kirkby)

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2012-05-28 23:57 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Team Ben are arranging another night to replace posters and put new ones up while out searching. Details will be posted on here a.s.a.p.

Thank you everyone for your continued support. x

2012-05-28 23:55 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

J MO, would be great if we could get something in the St Helen's Star this is the other paper I suggested earlier on at the beginning. We have had good results when dogs have gone in. It would have to be stressed that Ben could be anywhere and possible in an area the paper covers.

liver1047, fantastic you have put Ben's details on preloved and no problem using his photo the more it is spread the better. xxx

2012-05-28 23:46 liver1047

hope you do not mind but i have copy and pasted a photo, and descripton of Ben on preloved under ben lost, lost dog ben Tower Hill, Kirkby, Liverpool.

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2012-05-28 23:37 liver1047

im looking on all dog lost and found website, i found the one on dog warden site and gave it to another lady, im a member on the prelove site, have also been on there, i came of the facebook page as i didnt like what i was reading,,

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2012-05-28 23:12 J MO

I think that someone who Liz knows has checked out Northwood and there is a younger similar coloured dog to Ben who lives around there.

I went around Chads Church, Millenium Park, Mill Dam Park and through Bicketstaffe on the way home tonight. Unfortunately no sign of Ben.

Would it be worth trying to get Ben in the St Helens Star?

2012-05-28 22:46 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks AnnieSparky, great you are spreading the word further afield. :)

See Tri's Mum's post earlier 26.05.2012 13:20 re the last reported sighting. If you can go around the areas we went the other day that would be good unless we get another sighting elsewhere. Will let you know if meeting up anytime. x

2012-05-28 18:23 AnnieSparky

Hi, will be back down again this week after work. Are we staying around Mill Dam park or looking at any other areas? Have been telling everyone I meet about Ben, giving posters and fliers out the area as you never know someone may know someone etc.... also got Bens poster up in my car.

2012-05-28 18:21 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Called into Halewood RSPCA this afternoon to check on any NW dogs. Gave them a fresh poster for Ben, they were all asking after him and they did still had his details on their wall. Checked on a found that helpers had seen on the AW site (details below).

Found Dog
26 May 2012 Cross Breed
Location: Liverpool L36
Our Ref: 268504

2012-05-28 08:26 J MO

Liz, this morning is an ideal time to go round the parks. There will be food left by the kids over the weekend. Ideal for a hungry dog x

2012-05-27 23:54 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Been out today at a show on the Wirral with another NW Co-ordinator/Helper and had a stand for DogLost.

Dallas (Deb) welcome on board Doglost and thanks so much for the updates today. So pleased you have been out with Liz today and spent time together looking around the area/s. For those who do not know Deb is a neighbour who actually knows Ben and one of Team Ben helpers who is doing a terrific job searching the area different times of the day. Before Ben went missing Deb used to see Liz while they were on the local park and once knew he was missing started searching for him.

Helpers have been going out early morning and late evening, it is impossible for Team Ben to do it everyday as a Team due to work and family commitments and not living in the Kirkby area, but there is normally at least a couple searching at different times. We have stayed in the area until just after 2200hrs when it has gotten dark. We just need to be there at the right time ideally either see Ben ourselves or when there is a reported sighting rung in.

Liz has only lived in the Kirkby area for the past two years and family live out of the area.

Liz it would be really helpful if you could get into a routine of going out searching/scenting, as early as possible in the mornings and late evening ideally on your way home from work. It is getting light a bit later now which is helpful. I’ll try and catch up with you sometime tomorrow. xxx

2012-05-27 23:08 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Sorry have been having a few days break as on holiday...emotions are running high...as always when dogs are involved...As Sherlock has said...we have thousands of dogs to monitor...and we cannot be monitoring comments and taking sides...we do just concentrate on the dogs and will delete any posts that do not concentrate on the dogs...
If anyone feels they need to talk about it call Jayne on HQ Tuesday evening...when I get back from my break or email admin for attention of Jayne...

2012-05-27 19:09 DogLostSherlock Bones Police Liaison Co-ordinator

DO NOT make personal comments on here. Liz or anyone. We coordinators have THOUSANDS of dogs to monitor, we don't need to monitor people too. Liz... listen to the advice you're getting, please.

2012-05-27 19:07 liz

Thankyou to BaileyP too, for the long lovely phone call. xxx

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2012-05-27 19:01 liz

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2012-05-27 18:49 dallas

Liz, we had a nice afternoon today, just remember what we said, onwards and upwards hey! Deb x

2012-05-27 18:14 jobadger

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2012-05-27 18:06 liz

Oh and had two sniffer dogs out. One lady stayed with me a few days.

2012-05-27 18:02 liz

All hours of the day and night??? Read your comments!!! I work also and can you imagine what this is doing to me???

2012-05-27 17:58 liz

I have been out for the past 5 weeks, before and after work, each weekend, my brother came one weekend with me, I've stayed in the back of my jeep in his bed with the boot open, I've postered and given flyers to passersby, pubs, markets, shops. I've spent £400 on phone calls. What more can I do?

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2012-05-27 17:46 jobadger

@NickyJ - I was being realistic. If it were my dog, I would be out all hours of the day and night. The people on here are giving good advice - and it's not being listened to. No-one was asking for a search 24/7 - just when it was advisable to do so. As I said - I'm finished with this lady.

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2012-05-27 17:21 liz

I showed Deb my photo album of us and his portraits I had done, and photos all over the house.

Ben was still having, what I call 'a mental' in back garden, the week before he went off. He was running round like a spring lamb when I came home from work. He ran round the front porch sometimes before we set off for walks. He was still sprightly even though he was like an old man sitting down or lying down, and getting up and down stairs. I'm trying to be positive & I'm trying to be realistic too that he may have passed away.

2012-05-27 17:16 liz

Thankyou NickyJ. I'm really upset. I've done loads and am grateful to your help with the papers and everyone of you on here for helping and giving up time. Deb rang me & picked me up and we spent 2 hours out looking. We found some fur and feathers, like a dog had killed a bird which put up a fight but came worse off. t wasn't the colour of Ben's fur. My spirits were lifted as Deb came in for some lemonade and listened to me and gave great advice.

2012-05-27 17:13 NickyJ

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2012-05-27 15:36 liz

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2012-05-27 14:35 J MO

My earlier post regarding facebook should have said "on behalf of Liz". I have nothing against anyone in the facebook group and apologise if I have offended anyone.

2012-05-27 13:15 jobadger

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2012-05-27 12:41 liz

Thankyou J MO, MojoPeanut & Julie B. I still haven't left the house. I will at some point. I am trying to get on with chores, and try to act normally. I've reluctantly put the 'dog haired' duvet on the wash and cleaned the patio doors which had his slobber on them. I still look round in case he's behind me, in case he trips me up. I miss him following me everywhere. His photos are everywhere, all round my house. My ex saw that dog in Northwood, where he lives. It isn't him. It's a younger dog that plays wth a ball. en sticks his nose up at balls and sticks. In his mind, he's not a dog, he's a human don't you know?!! : )


Had to ring Vodaphone to put my bill on a plan. I am grateful to Andrea & family, who kindly gave me £100 towards i and that had helped a lot, however, it's still £200 after that, and my BT bill is £94 from all the ringing round over the weeks.

MojoPeanut, put this link into your phone. http://www.doglost.co.uk/join.php

xxxx

2012-05-27 12:01 Julie B

Be positive Liz. You are still getting sightings of the lovely Ben - which is a lot more than some of the other missing dogs out there. He is trying to find you and needs as much help in doing this. I can understand how you must feel - but you really do need to stay strong for Ben and spend as much time as you can out in the gorgeous weather looking for him. I do agree what people are saying about him coming out early in the morning and out later in the evening while it is cooler. Maybe you could go out about 8pm for a couple of hours and then try and get a good sleep and up again about 5am for a couple of hours. Scenting really is the key here as well - and I really do believe that if you follow what advice people are giving then Ben will be back home with you again very soon. xx

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2012-05-27 11:24 MojoPeanut

Liz, if the facebook group is deleted you will lose over 400 sets of eyes looking for Ben. I for one can't get dog lost on my phone so when I am out searching I rely on fb for information. You need to tell us who is texting you from fb so they can be removed from the group as they obviously don't have your best interests at heart. All we want is Ben home. Just checked and your contact numbers are no longer on the fb page.

2012-05-27 11:16 J MO

Liz, think Jan might have already done this but have asked the lady who set up the FB group to delete the group. Hope this will make things easier for you xl

2012-05-27 10:47 liz

Dee have replied. Not on it on FB but when I get texts off people who have seen it, it is upsetting. I don't want to know what they are saying and would prefer it if it was completely taken off FB as it's just an excuse for some to have a witch hunt about me. Sorry, won't mention it again. This is about Ben. xxxx

2012-05-27 10:44 liz

My wind chimes started chiming in the wind. I looked up and wondered if it was Ben telling me he was near. I'm not superstitious or a believer but I can hope. Got side tracked and now on my way out to look around.

2012-05-27 09:47 DogLostSherlock Bones Police Liaison Co-ordinator

Liz i've replied to your email. I'm afraid we don't control the facebook page, suggest you ignore it if it upsets you.

2012-05-27 09:29 liz

Thankyou again to all you volunteers. I may come across ungrateful and for this I am sorry. I know there are hundreds of dogs out there missing. Once this nightmare is over, I will join you. I am driving out shortly to look again.

2012-05-27 09:19 liz

Thankyou Jobadger. xxx I will be driving round there in a minute.

2012-05-27 09:18 liz

Can I ask that Ben Missing is removed from Facebook please. My contact details are on it and I've been texted that the comments are getting vicious about me. I am not on it, but it has scared me the fact that my contact details are on there. I am not a strong person and 5 weeks of searching has really taken it's toll. I want anonyminity. DL is about Ben. FB appears to be attacking me.

2012-05-27 09:15 jobadger

You don't need anything in his memory just yet Liz - he's so near to coming home - he needs to be able to pick up your scent. He's trying so hard......

2012-05-27 08:44 liz

Sorry for my comments & negativity. Thankyou for your hard work & support. I bought a wind chime yesterday in memory of Ben. Whether he returns or not. I hope he does . Going to see doctor tomorrow to get valium or something. Can't continue as I am. xxx

2012-05-27 00:24 Julie

Oh Yes know about this sighting Jan, sorry thought that there had been another one today, hoping that tomorrow is the day that Ben returns home x

2012-05-27 00:17 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Julie. :) x

Reported sighting was Thursday at Northwood where Simonswood School used to be. See Tri's Mum's post earlier. x

2012-05-27 00:06 Julie

When and where was the sighting Jan ? I am going out tomorrow evening to have another search for Ben, as you say early mornings or evening are probably the best times to search while it is so hot.

2012-05-26 23:17 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Great there has been another sighting.

Liz, now that there has been more reported sightings again it is important you go early in the morning and just sit around for a bit in your car or on one of the park benches, then go home get some rest before work and then look again possibly early evening on way home from work. The weather has picked up now and far too hot to see him out during the day. He could well move out of the area again soon. Also need to be SCENTING the area (use the spray bottle I left with you) and perhaps leave some bedding/blanket in the shrubbery where we think he maybe going.

I've never known such brilliant support in the NW there are lots of good helpers looking out for Ben, again we cannot thank everyone enough.

Keeping everything crossed it is him and he is home soon.

Got a DL show tomorrow so won't be around tomorrow until late evening. ♥♥♥

2012-05-26 22:30 jobadger

Can only agree with some of the comments on here - Liz would've thought that 6.00 a.m. in the morning is an ideal time to go and look for the gorgeous boy. Please help yourself - and him - the weather is ideally cool early morning and late at night - you know the area - a lot of people who are searching don't - help them to help you - please. There are people on this site who are still looking for their dogs after months - years - searching. They haven't given up - Ben is worth more than that. Sorry mods - please remove this if you think necessary - if it were my girl I'd be out every available moment.

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2012-05-26 22:10 liver1047

sorry to be rude, but dont just sit there on ur pc, feeling sorry for your self, and putting on your status that your going to do somethink stupid, why dont you get some old clothes and scent them to lure ben back, or put some biscuits down, have you search in the bramble hedges, he could be tangled up in one, or he might have fell into a ditch,or somethink, dont give up on him, there are loads of lost dogs out there, look on the bright side, people are helping you too,

2012-05-26 22:04 liver1047

my maisey went missing while on holiday at weymouth, in stead of going to hospital with my bitten hand i search all night and day looking for her, she had never been there before but she came back to the haven site next night, e stayed up all night looking, i did go to the hosspital in the end i had 7 stiches because another dog on the beach bite me and maisey ran, we came home a year later maisey ran again, another long night looking we had a phone called maisey out shy, timid rough collie jumped in a back of a lorry and ended in scotland, there were no pc,s or dog lost in those day,s, i couldnt sit around and do notting i had to find her,, xxx

2012-05-26 21:26 J MO

Millypod, I've postered the sheltered housing but Ben would have had to cross a busy road and the railway which has railings around it. The sheltered housing is near Ravenscroft School where he was sighted before being sighted at Mill Dam Park and Mill Lane.

I will go over all the sightings with dates and try and post his route. If he is heading back to Bicketstaffe this area has been heavily postered and leaflet dropped. Jan said that this is about the time he will start to get brave and come out more. We need to try and come up with his next stop

2012-05-26 21:17 J MO

Bickerstaffe, Mill Dam Park and Simmonswood Lane is another triangle.

The grassed area off Simonswood Lane towards the tip and the back of the haulage area may be where we need to look and poster next

2012-05-26 21:17 DogLostMillypod (Chris) - Administrative Volunteer

jmo in a much earlier post you said need to poster sheltered housing and in an earlier post today an older man was seen with a dog like ben just wondered if there is any conection. I dont know this area so sorry if im wrong.
Team Ben are doing a brilliant job.

2012-05-26 21:03 J MO

Don't know the area that well but Northwood is near Simonswood Lane and it looks on google maps that there is a large park/grassed area off Simonswood Lane. This would easily take Ben to the haulage yard on the way to Bicketstaffe but looks rural enough for him to go unnoticed for days. We have been assuming that he went to Bicketstaffe via Saxon Way park but this looks like an easier route for Ben.

As one of Ben's helpers please can we keep posts to refer to sightings, meeting points, where food had been left etc and not for personal comments. Most of us are using iPhones or Blackberrys and a lot of the time when you are out searching important information is missed amongst the personal posts. It is very difficult on my iPhone to scroll down all the comments whilst I am walking around.

Liz, please turn off your computer eat and get some sleep.x

2012-05-26 20:52 DogLostSherlock Bones Police Liaison Co-ordinator

Liz, I have removed your post. We are trying to help you and we are being honest. You need to leave the computer alone and go searching for Ben. Two days ago means he's close - please help him find you.

2012-05-26 20:48 liz

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2012-05-26 20:43 janni0706

It seems like the perfect conditions to go looking for him, the weather is lovely and a nice time of day. I hope he is soon home with you Liz. xx

2012-05-26 20:38 Mollychops

You are so right Sherlock also Ive found the dawn too is when dogs come out. Come on Liz get out there dawn and dusk .He is depending on you to find him

2012-05-26 20:29 DogLostSherlock Bones Police Liaison Co-ordinator

liz there was a sighting two days ago. instead of sitting here on your computer you'd be of more use going looking for him, in all honesty. dusk is the ideal time.

2012-05-26 20:01 liz

Am so traumatised. I feel Ben is dead. He couldn't cope with my angst anymore. He had his own elderly needs. Sorry Ben You have been more than strong & supportive but guess I wasn't there for you. xxx

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2012-05-26 18:46 J MO

Wonder if that is Ben's route to Pingwood and Bickerstaffe? Is this near Northwood where an old gentleman was seen walking a dog which looks like Ben?

2012-05-26 14:28 BaileyP

Just seen that there has been another sighting! Fantastic! Xx

2012-05-26 13:28 Mossey

Marlene, this is opposite my house x

2012-05-26 13:28 Unknown

Could be a park by peacock pub..xx

2012-05-26 13:20 Unknown

Liz has asked me to put this on....Just had a call..another sighting on Thursday at Northwood were simmonswood school used to be !! xx

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2012-05-26 12:18 Mossey

Thanks AndyT you are a star, every single helper surely one of us will spot him soon, or speak to that one person who will make the difference.

2012-05-26 12:04 AndyT

Had a thought whilst searching today - despite Ben's hearing and eyesight not being what they were, one sense won't degrade - his sense of smell. I know a few people have advocated that things of his or Lizs' are placed in specific areas to tempt him to certain spots - I definitely think thats the way he may be found.

And who knows what goes through someones mind when they rip a poster down. Sometimes seems that humans are the only real animals ....

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2012-05-26 11:52 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks a million AndyT that is great you have been able to search the area early.

Thanks also for your earlier post for Liz. I've removed your post you had accidently reported.

As we see any posters they are being replaced with new ones, especially when they have been ripped down.

The search goes on for Ben. x

2012-05-26 10:49 AndyT

Just tried to post this update - went to edit it but pressed 'Report this' - by mistake ! So Moderators, please remove as this is a duplicate !. Sorry - iPhone screen is too small !!!

Right - I headed in from Bickerstaffe end - stopped off at the fisheries (poster still ok) and to look around the area by the back of Highfield (St.Andrews view) - no luck. BTW the poster there had been ripped and needs a new one.

Continued to Mill Dam park - got there about 6am. Walked around the area including the wooded areas - nice and cool ! - spoke to a fisherman and a dog walker who were aware of Ben. Couldnt find the tree wit the pink ribbon ? BTW Poster is still OK there.

Came back along Bank Road just in case - unfortunately not.

Another day full of possibilities lies ahead !

Good luck everyone.

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2012-05-26 10:04 foggy

What a wonderful paragraph AndyT. Thanks for getting up and searching before u go to work. x

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2012-05-26 09:58 Mollychops

Thanks Andy T. x

2012-05-26 08:15 BaileyP

Liz- read what AndyT has written. Wonderful words and worth taking notice of. Rather than not eating you should be building up your strength to keep searching for Ben. Some dogs are found weeks later especially if someone has taken him in. Ben still needs you. He doesn't want to end up in a dogs' home again because you aren't there to take care of him.

(((((((hugs)))))))) Bridget)))))))))) Will ring you this afternoon.x

2012-05-26 06:27 liz

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2012-05-26 05:30 AndyT

Imagine if you do decide to - imagine if he's found the following day ? How will he feel - to have been without you, been found and full of joy to be coming back to you - only to find out you're the one now lost ?

There must be hundreds of people aware of Ben now after the great and tireless work by yourself and the helpers on this forum………………. you just need to believe in him, and explore every avenue (literally!) to get him back while there's a glimmer of hope - there have been sightings of Ben over the past week (some have proved not not be him, but certainly not all) and as many people have said dogs have been found well over a month after being lost.

As I promised in an earlier post I've now passed his posters to my milkman (cheers John!) who travels all around the areas mentioned very early (delivering) and late (collecting) - he's asking customers and keeping an eye out for Ben.

I've just got up at ten to 5 in the morning on my day off (I commute 500 miles a week and work long days) - just so I can try to drive around to look for Ben in an area I don’t know - and there are countless people doing the same thing, night and day.

I have a 12 year old lab-collie-alsation cross – Jake – and he’s my best mate - has been since the day I got him from the Dogs Trust in Huyton when he was 6 months old. I can only begin to comprehend how you feel at the moment – so I can’t preach to you – however I’d want to keep pushing to find him especially if there were still so many possible sightings.

All it needs is a split second between him being lost and being found – a turn of a corner, a move of the sun from shade.

Believe in him, believe in the helpers - everyone is doing this so there is some chance of a happy ending to this story which has gone all over the country.

Nobody wants to have found Ben only for there to be no-one for him to come home to.

2012-05-26 01:50 liz

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2012-05-26 00:45 liz

Ben's ears are like a wing nut when erect. Not up like an alsation or collie, just wide. They are unique, ginger, golden, sweet. When down, he looks like Brare Rabbit. He looks like a flopsy eared rabbit from behind. I am ironing with new steam iron and catching up with soaps, but he should be there in his bed, near my ironing board.

2012-05-26 00:13 liz

Am I being punished for being a bad person as I've never felt pain like this? He is an innocent. He's done nothing wrong. He's a pensioner that I've spent 16 years caring for and deserves to be here with me in his home. He's the product of once loving family that went through a painful divorce and move. I can't bear not seeing him again. Please someone find him. xxx

2012-05-25 23:58 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

jobadger, you will need to refresh the page to see the updated photo which includes the front shot of Ben. I've emailed you the word doc posters, they did already have on that Ben has white on his chest. The photo and wording is bigger than the DL one. x

2012-05-25 23:57 liz

Has some heartless person got him & keeping him from me? I've been punished enough. I don't care about losing my job, home or car, I want Ben back. Please someone, I am broken enough. I can't carry on like this. Life isn't worth living without knowing what has happened to my Boo.

2012-05-25 23:55 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Some houses we need to leaflet drop is Rowan Drive, they back onto Millennium Park we were looking around this part of the park tonight. x

2012-05-25 23:50 liz

If I am at the sink or cooking, he pokes me with his nose. Is anyone else out there so destroyed without their dog? I am a wreck. Where is he?

2012-05-25 23:47 liz

Came home, sat in garden crying again, went out for an hour with a friend, now home to Ben less house. It is killing me. This is our home. It is an empty shell without him. I have just had shower and cried the place down. He even looks at me through shower doors and I laugh at this, but he's not there. I took him for granted so much. I hate this.

2012-05-25 22:56 J MO

We could do with leaflet dropping the estate off County Road to St Chads Church which backs onto Millenium Park

2012-05-25 22:45 J MO

Is there any chance of borrowing in heatsensitive camera again? Was there still food and a container of water near the pink ribbons?

Jobadger, can't take credit for amending the poster, the credit should go to Jan x

2012-05-25 22:41 jobadger

Thanks for adding the wording J MO but have loaded and reloaded poster several times but only one small pic on top of the original?? x

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2012-05-25 22:15 MojoPeanut

No problem Jan. I think the undergrowth in millennium needs thoroughly searching. There are so many dense tree area's. I just have this feeling he is hiding out in there xx

2012-05-25 22:08 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Met up with MojoPeanut, Mossey and AnnieSparky at 18.30hrs. MojoPeanut and Mossey posted Mill Lane, Myself and AnnieSparky checked around the overgrown area where J MO has been looking around. There is lots of good places for Ben to take shelter and is very well shaded. Met a dog walker with his two dogs and he visits the field early morning and was already aware of Ben (he lives near to where there was a sighting on Monday and had a poster through the door). He will look out for Ben.

Also had another walk around Millennium Park with AnnieSparky and MojoPeanut, going further up than we did the other day. Again there are lots of good places for Ben to take cover.

The area was very busy tonight with lots of activity. More posters were put up and handed out to dog walkers.

We left the area at 9.10pm. Thanks Team Ben helpers for turning out tonight and MojoPeanut for all the posters you have done you are a star. :) x

2012-05-25 21:56 Mossey

Myself and 3 others, and 3 doggy helpers put new posters up and searched the areas where the pink ribbon is, no signs :-(

2012-05-25 21:23 liz

Driving back in a mo. Wanted to check answer phone.

2012-05-25 21:21 liz

Thanks JMo . Drove past park & there are so many people around. Just watching sun set & it's wrong that Ben isn't here walking in & out of garden.

2012-05-25 20:24 J MO

Jobadger, on the poster there are two small photos if Ben which show his White markings. Jan can also email posters and leaflets if anyone wants them

2012-05-25 18:39 jobadger

There's no mention of any white on Ben on his poster - and it's only obvious on the pic of him with Liz which isn't on the poster.....

2012-05-25 17:27 J MO

Been to Mill dam park and the wasteland opposite the car park. Left water where the grass had been flattened the other day. The grass does some to have sprung up a bit today. Have tied pink ribbon to the trees so people know where I am talking about.

Drove around Bicketstaffe on the way home but think it is too hot for him to be out. Think we might need some early starts or late finishes as I think he will be well hiding in the heat

2012-05-25 16:04 liz

No, she couldn't catch him. I showed her his pic & she said it wasn't him. Drove round anyway but nothing.

2012-05-25 15:59 MojoPeanut

Did someone take this loose dog in and call the warden Liz?

2012-05-25 13:43 liz

Just back from another false sighting on Windermere Rd, where lady couldn't get hold of dog but when I got there it was nothing like Ben. according to picture, she said.

2012-05-25 12:40 liz

Thanks Sasha xx

2012-05-25 12:37 liz

Sitting in the garden , his garden, & keep imagining his shadow at the back gate. It's only the branches of the tree flickering.

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2012-05-25 12:35 Sasha

Been looking this morning but could nt get there till qtr past 10, think it was too warm for Ben to come out.Spoke to 2 workmen who ve only been there since Tues so they re going to keep a lookout + 1 of them said he d seen the poster. There s so much shrubbery where Ben can stay cool. If could get into it might see fur if Bens been lying in there. Keep up the good work everyone.

2012-05-25 12:28 liz

Thanks Tri's mum. xx

2012-05-25 12:11 Unknown

It was me and my daughter he told..Jay was on her way there the other day to check woman with strays but she got a call to say Ben had been sighted in Mill lane so she dashed back to join the search..dont worry we will check this one out..xx

2012-05-25 09:27 liz

Think I will ring the vet one last time.

2012-05-25 09:24 liz

Came home, got into bed fully clothed & cried myself to sleep. Just been looking through albums of us. Stripping the bed I can't bring myself to wash the duvet. I am lying next to it & it's covered in his black & white hair.

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2012-05-25 09:08 Meru

I put him on my FB page everyday. Come on Ben we need to get you into the blue.xx

2012-05-25 06:54 liz

In kids play area now. Did anyone find the woman who takes in strays cyclist told Team Ben about?

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2012-05-25 06:49 liz

Had a dream he was home but looked at me as if to say "You can let me go now!" then he passed away. I don't know what to think.

2012-05-25 06:46 liz

Parked up at Mill Dam. Walked round & wasteland opposite. Now sitting at bus stop where he was last seen on Mill Lane.

2012-05-25 00:00 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, just copy the link into your browser, I have viewed it o.k. x

2012-05-24 23:58 liz

I can't seem to view that nap Jan. xx

2012-05-24 23:54 liz

Is it normal for a dog to stick in the same area until found? Especially old and confused and lost? I do hope that is the case. Ican't stop commenting on here because it gives me comfort and that's probably why there are so many posts.

2012-05-24 23:54 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Ben's sightings map is at: http://g.co/maps/t84jh

Thanks NickyJ for doing it. :) x

2012-05-24 23:51 liz

I keep on thinking, he's been sighted so many times in that park and then along Mill Road. Times and dates are now fuzzy, but it was obviously after the farm sightings in Bickerstaffe 3 weeks ago. He was only seen this week I think. Monday wasn't it? It has to be him?? No one has come forward to say it could be their dog. He was seen at the viaduct, a week before, and the week before that, on foot bridge.

2012-05-24 23:10 liz

Thank you Annie & Jan. xxx

2012-05-24 23:01 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Yes I did Liz, I've added the front view pic of him to the bottom corner of his photo, you will need to refresh the page to see. The word doc posters have been updated a few times. Will update with new pic and email to Team Ben helpers.

If anyone else is able to help in the search and email posters out please let us know and the various size posters can be emailed to you. Thanks x

2012-05-24 23:00 AnnieSparky

Keep your chin up Liz, Ben will be keeping cool in the day somewhere nice and shady, and bedding down in the night in the soft long grass. We'll just keep searching, lots of people and kids in the park were genuinly concerned about him. Putting hoover contents out is a great idea..... xx

2012-05-24 22:46 liz

Jan did you get my two photos last night, of Ben before he disappeared? It shows what he looks like walking up to you, and away from you with his back legs sort of dragging ? xx

2012-05-24 22:43 liz

The calls stopped at the weekend. I found out one private number was actually my bank manager. He had been trying to get in touch so that was a relief. Thanks again ladies. With your support it really helps. xxxx

2012-05-24 22:42 liz

When it's hot, Ben goes into the house for shade so he won't come out during this hot weather. When he was seen, it was obviously cooler. He doesn't like concrete either with dragging his back legs. That's porbably why he's on grass more.

2012-05-24 22:41 janetS

Liz, ignore the hoax calls please don't let the nasty people upset you they are not worth it. Mossey gives good advice re scenting the area after the mowing. It sounds like some of the children really care and are willing to help. I hope he is soon home and where he belongs.

2012-05-24 22:35 liz

I know, it's just those hoax calls and that horrible gang of lads from Kirkby townie. I hope he is hiding out and we find him soon. I am not coping at all. I am a mess and work is suffering and am very short tempered right now. The slightest thing, I get mad at and burst into tears.

2012-05-24 22:34 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, we have met loads of youngsters in the area and they are more than keen to help look out for him. Remember to two lads who spoke to you a couple of weeks ago and when I met them later in the evening they asked after you and Ben. xxx

2012-05-24 22:33 Mossey

I think the council have been out this week and cut the grass, but they have left the areas by the trees. if we cut back the nettles to look, we could do with having some scenting done

2012-05-24 22:31 J MO

Liz, all the kids that we have spoken to have been keen to help. There are a lot more good people in the world than bad

2012-05-24 22:25 liz

I am worried as gangs of teenagers hang out there. What if someone has taken him and done something to him. He can hardly defend himself. I am having horror images. He's a little disabled thing, who can't see or hear.

2012-05-24 22:22 liz

I saw a gap in hedge across there last night and tonight. I will empty hoover contents out along there tomorrow morning.

2012-05-24 22:20 liz

Everytime I see that sun set from the windows at work, I start to panic. Every morning I wake up, I panic. If I get him back, he's not going to be out of my sight again.

2012-05-24 22:13 AnnieSparky

Ah, I see.....dont know what I was thinking.....yes those nettles are nasty! Hope you have some calamine lotion :)

2012-05-24 22:13 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

We are planning to meet between 18.30-19.00pm and concentrate on the field opposite Mill Dam Park carpark and Millennium Park.

Address for the park:
Mill Dam Park
Mill Lane
Kirkby
L32 2AU

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl You can get directions on here. x

2012-05-24 22:12 liz

Not done hooever thing yet. BB keeps coming on and going off. Am crying eyes out again. I can't stand this nightmare and pain anymore. Where is he? Thanks for all you are doing.

2012-05-24 22:09 J MO

Wow 1000 posts !

2012-05-24 22:07 J MO

Annie, we will only make a couple more routes into the overgrowth as it is 20ft deep of nettles in part and I was well and truely stung by them the other day.

What I will do Jan is tie pink ribbon to the trees where I have left food and water x

2012-05-24 21:31 Sasha

Ah hope so x

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2012-05-24 21:30 AnnieSparky

I'll be down there tomorrow evening about 7pm after work. Will bring some gloves too. Just a thought, if it is where hes taking shelter would cutting the overgrowth disturb his den and make him move on? Am guessing prob not as there are alot of nettles! Fingers crossed its Ben x

2012-05-24 21:30 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Pity we could not be there in the day and see if there are any Council gardeners about they may help in cutting back the overgrowth. x

2012-05-24 21:27 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Sasha greatly appreciated. :) x

2012-05-24 21:14 Sasha

I ll be going in the morning so I ll check that area out too. Keep up the good work everyone , you re all brilliant xxx

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2012-05-24 21:13 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

I hope to go up there tomorrow evening and look around with other Team Ben helpers. I will see what we have to help cut the nettles back. Really hope it is him taking shelter in the overgrowth. xxx

2012-05-24 20:08 ClaireC

You are such brilliant people and as I'm too far away to help out I just wanted to say so. Good Luck Team Ben. Liz stay strong xx

2012-05-24 20:02 Mossey

JMO I dont have a petrol strimmer but have good gloves and prepared to pull them out, busy tomorow day will be around 6pm

2012-05-24 19:49 J MO

Been to Mill Dam Park and the wasteland opposite the car park. Noticed that a container of water had been left. To the left of this area in the nettles under the tree is where I think a dog has been lying. I will put more food the 2moro and water.

Does anyone have a petrol strimmer we could use to cut back some of the nettles to check this wasteland in more detail.

Liz, did you leaflet drop Mill Lane and leave a Hoover trail?

2012-05-24 18:12 NickyJ

Mash - Yes Google maps is quite easy, first you need to sign into a gmail email account and then on Maps you go to My Places and then to Create Map. Zoom in to where you want to be on the map and click to put a pin on the point on the map and you can also fill out a caption box with info for that pin. You then go to Collaborate to obtain a short URL for the map and make it readable by anyone rather than it being personal.

Ben's sightings map is at: http://g.co/maps/t84jh

2012-05-24 16:54 Sasha

Ah!Think he should be knighted Sir Ben. Soo cute xxx

2012-05-24 15:22 liz

Thankyou Sasha. I am hoping my little scuttler Boo is found soon. He doesn't play with sticks or balls. He's too sophisticated for that. Used to laugh with ex husband that he was far too regal.

2012-05-24 14:31 Sasha

No one can feel what you re going through its such an emotional rollercoaster,we all can only imagine. Ben is still around and I pray every day you ll get that one phone call.Time is something you give beacause you care and all thats asked in return is to find Ben. You re a credit to Ben. Take care xxx

2012-05-24 14:18 liz

I know Sasha, it's agony. Especially when I get calls that he's been seen but they didn't stop to get him. Then all these wonderful volunteers give up their time and "no show". I then have to carry on living but heart broken & no closure. xx

2012-05-24 14:08 Sasha

It just takes that 1 sighting by someone who keeps hold of Ben, Ive put Liz s phone no + dogs lost no in my phone in case I find him. Surely now someone who sees him know he s lost, all these recent sightings bring hope.xxx

2012-05-24 13:53 liz

Thankyou KayDee. I've been almost daily for past 4 1/2 weeks to all places sighted. Before & after work. xx

2012-05-24 13:43 Diane

Hi Liz, just wanted to say I'm thinking of you from Ashton-under-Lyne and sending you positive thoughts to keep your strength up.

I looked at the sightings map today and was quite drawn to the Mill Lane area and the possible sightings there. I think Jan posted earlier about trying to get there early hours (6-8am) and how you would be the one that Ben would be sniffing for. Do you have someone who goes with you in the mornings? It would make the world of difference to your motivation I'm sure. x

2012-05-24 13:24 liz

Thanks Sasha . In Ormskirk & finding it hard as I have passed places we go to. Coronation Park, the market, coffee shops, bistros we sit outside. I park at Morrisons & get him sausages from the deli .

2012-05-24 12:28 Sasha

He sounds a real character Liz, think now he s also got a fan club of adults too! xxx

2012-05-24 11:49 Mash

NickyJ - you plotted all possible sightings on a google map - any chance you could share your expertise on how to do it - Thanks

2012-05-24 11:38 liz

He has a little fan club of children who want to walk him or give him sausages because of his gentle nature.

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2012-05-24 11:32 liz

sorry my moby only likes short messages. Ben is a little scarlett pimpernell when he wants to be. He would be a dog people would just walk past as he has his nose & face pointed in direction of something smelly in the bushes or on the ground rather than coming up to you. He does like children & will approach them. He only wants a stroke off them.

2012-05-24 11:28 liz

Thanks to everyone too. If only someone would ring to say they have him. He's so gentle & wouldn't bite. He would try to run away but once you have hold of him he's ok. I would leave the house in whatever I was wearing if I got that call.

2012-05-24 11:11 liz

Sent more photos to Jan last night of Ben in my garden days before he went walkabout .

2012-05-24 11:08 liz

Meeting Daniel in Ormskirk at 1 & sitting outside Costa Coffee. It's going to be first time ever sitting outside without Ben.

2012-05-24 11:05 liz

Thanks Woldsway. Just woke from a dream that I was playing with Ben then reality hit. My broadband is down again so can't express self properly on mobile. My ex said something yesterda. He reminded me that Ben always ran down the road & he would run after him for me. Especially if we were going for a drive & not to the park. Please let us be reunited somebody. xx

2012-05-24 08:43 AkitaTaz

Stay positive Liz, you are doing all the right things and that perfect sighting can't be far away now xxx

2012-05-24 07:35 BaileyP

Another day, another chance for Ben to be sighted.

Please don't give up on Ben Liz - only a couple of days since the sightings. As JMO said - you are the one he will come to and it's your scent he's searching for. The more you are around, the more chance there is that he will sniff you out. Lots of big (((((((( hugs))))))))))) xx

2012-05-24 03:54 janni0706

Thinking of you Liz, hoping you are soon reunited with Ben. I live down South so am too far away to help but my thoughts are with you x

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2012-05-23 23:40 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks woldsway. :)x

2012-05-23 22:58 woldsway

Liz, please try and stay positive you have a lot of good people helping you & we are all praying for Ben's safe return to you
About 3 years ago a good friend of mine lost his little spaniel girl and was loosing hope of ever seeing her again, I sent him this poem & he said it gave him stregnth to keep going, she was found safe after a month of being out on her own

Have faith, my friend, have faith
When the wind blows hard
And you can't hold on
Have faith
When your head's in a hole
And your mind is all foggy
Have faith
Stay strong, my friend, stay strong
When you're weaker than weak
And you can't take much more
Stay strong
Whatever may happen
Make Jesus your guide
And always remember
Have faith, my friend, have faith

©Marissa Lee

Thinking of you XXX

2012-05-23 22:47 liz

Hi everyone, I rang and spoke to Claire, and asked how she and Roo were after the traumatic events.

I am trying to do things to take mind off depression. Yes I will post leaflets JMO & Jan. Noticed some teenagers looking at Ben's photo on Mill Lane at he lights as I drove round to Mill Dam.

It's really stupid, but for the first time, I worked out how to get my iron steaming to do some ironing, and this has strangely brought me a sense of achievement.

I know everyone has worked long hours to find Ben and I am very grateful.

It's just hard being his mum.

Everywhere I look in the house, there are phots, on my fridge, on my walls, on my computer desk, embroideries, paintings.

2012-05-23 22:28 J MO

Liz, I echo what Jan has said. 3 sightings in one day is brilliant news. We need you on board and to increase your presence around Mill Lane as far as is humanly possible. If he is going to show for anyone it will be you.

Sometimes when you feel down it is a good idea to do something positive. Jan had left some leaflets with you. 2moro can you leaflet drop Mill Lane and scatter Hoover dust as you do that. Please post that this has been so we don't duplicate x

2012-05-23 22:23 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

jay*s*, thanks for the update and welcome onboard DogLost. You have been a great help in the search for Ben and it is really appreciated.

Team Ben are amazing. :)x

2012-05-23 22:18 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks AnnieSparky. :)x

2012-05-23 22:09 AnnieSparky

Hope to get to Mill dam again on Friday evening after work for a few hours. Fingers crossed for another sighting xx

2012-05-23 22:03 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, you cannot give up just yet, we need to try and eliminate these sightings and find the dog. People who have sighted it have said it is Ben and it well could be.

There are a lot of people still giving up their time to look for him and we know it is hard for you, but please stay strong for Ben and everyone who is supporting you. ♥♥♥

2012-05-23 22:00 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

This is what Clare posted on Ben's fb page earlier this evening:

First post: sorry if I have let everyone down today, but have just got back in, i did indeed set off this morning with roo, unfortunately for me some idiot cut me up on the motorway, front end on drivers side of the car is a bit of a mess, airbag went off, quite scary, so had to wait for recovery, then get in touch with insurance people, arrange for transport home with a dog, it has been one hell of a day. I am so sorry I did not make it, and have let you all down. have now just got a courtesy car, still shaking. Just glad it was not the back end of the car as obviously this is were Roo was sat, he is fine, but trying to get him into a vehicle afterwards was a nightmare. again apologies.

just badly shaken, and poor Roo has not left my side. Once i get myself sorted out, maybe I could make plans for another day. Hopefully that will not be necessary as Ben will be home by then.. Any news on him today, feel awful for him.

Second post: just badly shaken, and poor Roo has not left my side. Once i get myself sorted out, maybe I could make plans for another day. Hopefully that will not be necessary as Ben will be home by then. Any news on him today, feel awful for him.

2012-05-23 21:33 Unknown

Liz keep your pecker up..someone will sight him again..he carnt hide forever. !! xx

2012-05-23 21:19 liz

I am having mixed emotions. Sitting at Mill Dam on road where he's been seen now after work. It will soon be dark & it's killing me.

2012-05-23 21:06 jay*s*

Thank you sianlouise ,
We now know its not Ben :( it was a lovely little lady who is now reunited xxx

2012-05-23 20:33 sophiewillow

It is a long shot, but.. I am a member of rescue groups facebook page and there is an alert. I've been following this page for the past 3 weeks. "Found outside asda clayton green road, Clayton Brook, Chorley at 5.30pm ish Elderly Border Collie, possible cross, small collie sized, black and tan, with grey muzzle, roughly 8yrs +, wearing red harness, little bit nervous, but friendly... Think it may of come from Cuerden Valley Park, as was soaking wet like it had been swimming, please contact asda or the dog warden if you own this poor oldie or think you may know who does". It isn't a million miles away from where he has been sighted, you don't get black and tan collies to my knowledge that colouring usually comes from german shepherd, the red harness may have been put on by someone looking after him.

2012-05-23 20:20 Mossey

Hope clare and roo are ok, what bad luck, but we must keep up the search for our favourite doggy

2012-05-23 20:06 jobadger

I'm sorry you've decided to give up on the old boy, Liz. He's only been gone a month - and there have been sightings and recent ones too. A lot of people are concerned for him and are spending a great deal of time searching for him - and you give up. Sorry mods - please delete this if necessary but it has to be said.

2012-05-23 20:01 jobadger

Please let us know when you have some news about Clare - I hope she and Roo are okay.

2012-05-23 19:52 liz

So sorry Clare & Roo. xxx

2012-05-23 18:39 animal lover

I am so sorry that Clare has had an accident. Hope she is OK. xxx

2012-05-23 18:26 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Have just had an update. Clare did not arrive as she has had an accident in her car and had to go back home. Hope her and Roo are o.k. Will update when we know more. x

2012-05-23 18:10 liz

Ps I've scented in most bushes there

2012-05-23 18:08 liz

ignore stupid predictive text like thwarting & cynical staying in wrong places.

2012-05-23 18:07 liz

Claire hasn't been in touch on either landline or moby so maybe something came up. I am in the loos at work now typing this. It's hard not to be cynical but Ben maybe staying out of hot weather. I am going to put flowers down & bury his things at thwarting weekend to find closure. I am not taking anymore calls unless it's cynical a voicemail to say someone has him dead or alive. I can't do it anymore . Thanks everyone. xx

2012-05-23 15:45 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Have been liaising with Liz and some of the girls, Clare has not arrived yet or if she has not contacted Liz. Liz has to go to work soon, her car is parked a Mill Dam with Ben's bed in the back.

It was too late last night for us to arrange a proper meet with Clare and some of us did not get off line until early hours. Unfortunately a lot of us have work commitments especially during the day.

I was hoping to meet up with Clare or whoever is in the area early evening tonight but have got to wait for the carpet fitter, cancelled it the other Friday to spend the day/night in the area searching for Ben and that was the day sat off in the farm with Liz. Fitter has said they may not get to mine until about 1800hrs so will have to see what time they finish.

With it being so hot Ben would be lying up somewhere. Hope Clare has not had a wasted journey especially coming so far. Jan x

2012-05-23 13:55 Sasha

Good luck to everyone searching for Ben. When I was looking the other day, through the arches to the right theres a well trodden path that goes alongside the railway, did nt go on it as I was on my own.Fingers crossed the tracking dog will pick up a scent xxx

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2012-05-23 13:39 AnnieSparky

Brilliant idea about a tracking dog. Will be going back to look again tomorrow or friday. Good luck Liz and everyone looking for lovely Ben.

2012-05-23 13:00 liz

Heading back in a minute through parks again.

2012-05-23 12:43 liz

Just having lunch. Gave Claire my mobile but I have to leave for work at 4.

2012-05-23 12:39 liz

Left car at Mill Dam. Walked round both parks & roads with Eddie. Still out. Ben's bed in car.

2012-05-23 11:26 Unknown

Thats good Mossey..hope today is the day..i have no car today..hope we get a result in all those bushes & shrubery..all paws crossed.. !! xxx

2012-05-23 11:20 Mossey

Fingers crossed for today, there is a lady coming with her dog for tracking liz is going to meet her with something with bens scent on it

2012-05-23 10:47 jobadger

Don't give up on Ben......

2012-05-23 08:50 AkitaTaz

Good Luck Liz, please get yourself out there for Ben to smell you. He is there just waiting for his mum to appear on a nice sunny day. Lets make today the day you find him xx

2012-05-23 02:09 poorlittlepepper

Have you thought of contacting an animal spiritualist? There are a few if you google them. I don't know if they are any good. Just a thought.

2012-05-23 01:08 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Mossey and your gorgeous little Team Ben helper, not forgetting Jack either. :)x

2012-05-23 00:42 Mossey

Went earlier to the area where the flattened grass was seen, I did see youths sitting there last night from the mill dam car park, however me and my little girl(who is now obsessed with ben) had a walk around and there is a tree a bit further up circled by nettles but has a flattened area in it, definately looks like something has been sleeping there. got to be there at the right time, and some scenting done

2012-05-23 00:24 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, now that there has been more reported sightings again in the Mill Dam Pond area it is important you go early in the morning and just sit around for a bit and possibly early evening. The weather has picked up now and would be great if you could sit on one of the benches or in your car in the carpark. He could well move out of the area again. Also need to be SCENTING the area and perhaps leave some bedding/blanket in the shrubbery where we think he maybe going.

Keeping everything crossed it is him and he is home soon. x

2012-05-23 00:08 liz

I keep thinking, all these sightings, the fact someone said he had long lassie nose, golden face, looked lost and trance like, had a limp and is seen up and down Mill Lane. It's got to be him.

2012-05-22 23:00 jobadger

Any chance of getting any posters on the local buses passing through? Our services will happily display posters but this may be because they're only small country concerns. Lots of people would be able to see the posters for a while whilst they were on the bus - so something might just click....

2012-05-22 22:16 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Last night when we split up into groups myself, Annette and Julie covered the Millennium Park area. As you go under the arches to the entrance to the park there is a very good overgrown area to the left hand side which could be a good place for Ben to be sleeping. We walked through this area but it is very dense and ideal for him to hide up during the day and night.

We replaced some of the posters and put one on the big Park Name sign. x

2012-05-22 21:47 liz

I keep getting private withheld calls with no voicemail. It could be nothing. It could be the person who has left me messages at the weekend, where they have just made a screaming sound down the phone. I was upset earlier and verytime it gets to 9pm and the sun goes down, my heart sinks and I start to cry again. It's the same when I wake up. Heavy heart, depression. My mum went after I went off for my interview. My ex boyf is staying tonight. He's ordered a takeaway and we're going to watch TV. I'm not much company to be honest, but him being here means I'm not alone crying and thinking the worst. Thankyou Gill, Mossy, JMO, Deb, Jan, Jay and anyone I've forgotten.

2012-05-22 20:30 MojoPeanut

Mossey and I, together with Deb, leaflet dropped Deerbolt Crescent last night. We also put new posters up on every other lamppost on Deerbolt and down Mill Lane xx

2012-05-22 20:03 J MO

Have we leaflet dropped Mill Lane and Dearbolt Crescent? Can't remember where we r up to with the leaflet dropping

2012-05-22 18:28 jobadger

Liz - There are many people rooting for Ben - they will be concerned especially as he's been in the local paper - the more people who stay in contact, the better. Let's hope one of them comes up with THE phone-call soon.

2012-05-22 16:55 Polly

I am not in the area but wondered if someone could put a container of water out where the food is being left. I really wish I could be there to help find beautiful Ben. Every one searching, please look after yourselves. All of us from afar are routing for you/team Ben and I am sure you/team Ben will find precious boy Ben very soon. Lots of good wishes to you all. x

2012-05-22 16:35 J MO

Liz, sometimes people will assume that Ben has been found after 4 weeks. It is important that people who ring know he is still missing.

I know it's hard Liz but the phonecalls mean that People are still looking for Ben which is good news x

2012-05-22 16:12 liz

Feeding young Eric the 2nd and then going to work. Thankyou guys again. xx

2012-05-22 16:11 liz

Thanks JMO didn't see this until I wrote. I am hoping it is my old fella who's tracks you found. I had a hard 2 hour session today with written stuff, role play and 2 interviews. There were so many young people there, I know they won't take me on. Ageism and the fact I am old school ex BT. All I have on my mind is Ben. It didn't affect my assessment but it was hard and gruelling.

2012-05-22 16:03 liz

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2012-05-22 15:59 Airedalejo

I have been following this thread since Ben was lost 22/4/2012 and am so upset that he hasn't been found. Hope you find him soon x Jo

2012-05-22 15:52 J MO

Sorry, to clarify the wasteland that I am talking about is on Mill Lane before the railway railings. Hope this makes sense!

2012-05-22 15:44 J MO

Been around Millenium Park and the wasteland opposite Mill Dam Park this afternoon. Met up with Julie.

We noticed in the wasteland opposite Mill Dam Car Park that to the right there were trees surrounded by weeds but there were 3 areas which had a small track to and where something had been lying recently. I don't thint it was kids because there were no sweet wrappers or empty cans left. We have left pilchards there and also a scent trail from Mill Lane to these areas. It was also very shaded here as well.

I anyone is going out tonight can you please check this wasteland.

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2012-05-22 15:00 Unknown

Thanks Sasha..yes i agree too hot for a dog today..may be later in the cool of the evening..we were at the dam last night talking till 10.pm & thier were loadsa ppl about plus dog walkers..so the more thats out..the more to sight Ben.. !! xx

2012-05-22 14:37 Sasha

Been round Mill Dam park + to millenium + round Deerbolt crescent then up to Carters Arms pub this morning but I think it was probably too warm for Ben to come out at 10 30 this morning. Im sure that important phone call will come cos lots more people are aware of Ben.Good Luck to everyone looking for him, we all love him like he s our own xxx

2012-05-22 10:57 jobadger

I check this page several times daily - though don't always say anything. I do so hope you're home soon lovely boy. Your mum needs you...... Team Ben - you're doing a fantastic job - Wish I could help on the ground - I, like bazil, have thought of packing a sleeping bag and coming across! Good Luck today. xx

2012-05-22 09:17 Meru

Team Ben are getting closer - Come on Ben time to go home

2012-05-22 07:50 liz

Thankyou to Fiona who has left messages. I am sory Fiona that you can never get hold of me. I daren't use the phone until I have cleared my bills.

Thankyou to Andrea and family for the money towards this.

xxxx

2012-05-22 07:46 liz

Thankyou everyone. The lady yesterday did say he was walking like he had a sore foot, and was same colouring. She mentioned the man across the road with his own dog on a lead, but this dog was definitely on his own. Dare I hope it is Ben and not someone else's dog that lives locally? I did drive round there 5 mins after the lady rang me but he could've disappeared anywhere after that. A bush, a house, a garden??

2012-05-22 01:45 solitairejane

Three sightings on the same day! I am feeling positive that Team Ben will find him. It looks like he is staying close-by. Just hope he shows himself when the ladies are around. What a resiliant fella he is and such a wise lovely old boy. I get upset at all the missing dogs but never have I ever willed a dog so much to be found. I hope tomorrow brings some very good news.

2012-05-22 01:39 solitairejane

Had response back from one of the taxi companies I contacted:

Jane

Our vehicles are only licensed for within the City of Liverpool boundary, it is therefore unlikely we can be of any help in this matter however I have affixed a copy of your poster to our company notice board to alert our drivers. Good luck.

Regards

Computer Cab (Liverpool) Ltd

2012-05-22 01:37 solitairejane

Had a response back from Royal Mail re the email I sent:

Hi Jane,

Unfortunately your email has been sent to the wrong department. I have forwarded your email onto the relevant part of Royal Mail and also to the Kirby delivery office, hopefully they shall be able to pass these posters around and help to find Ben.

Kind Regards

2012-05-21 23:11 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

No luck in finding Ben tonight. :(

Met up with 8 Team Ben helpers tonight and we split up and walked around the Mill Lane area from Dam Pond. Checking in the Millenium Park asking people if they had seen him. But no luck.

Today there was three reported sightings.

First one was the call liz had today from a lady (see her post 12:11).

Second, helper Mossey then got a call from her cousin, who couldnt get the dog as he was walking his dog who is not friendly.

Third was someone who another Team Ben helper spoke to while looking this afternoon who said they had seen the dog, all three in the same location.

We met up back at Mill Dam Pond and Tri's Mum joined us, we all stayed in the area until 10.00pm just as it was starting to get dark.

The search goes on for Ben but great there has been sightings.

Thank you to everyone who helped in the searches today. xxx

2012-05-21 22:39 BBKM

Everything crossed for Ben's safe return. Praying it is tonight. Team Ben you are brilliant x

2012-05-21 21:43 Jane

I look on the site everyday to follow Ben's progress. I am still rooting for you Liz and hope Ben is home soon. Let's hope tonight is the night. Good luck everyone xxx

2012-05-21 19:48 Sasha

Please let tonight be the night Ben is found. Good luck to all the team. Fingerss, toes + everything crossed xxx

2012-05-21 18:43 twinks

good luck for tonight team ben, come on ben time to go home, xx

2012-05-21 18:39 Mollychops

Good luck to Jan and Team Ben XX

2012-05-21 18:06 PA

Good Luck Team Ben ive got everything crossed that tonights the night that you will reunite lovely Ben with his mum.

2012-05-21 17:57 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

This is the meeting place for tonight at 7.15pm:

Mill Dam Park
Mill Lane
Kirkby
L32 2AU

2012-05-21 17:40 Snowdrop

Good luck for tonight team Ben! Have been following his story xxx

2012-05-21 17:31 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Just the break we have been waiting for.

Thanks wonderful TEAM BEN, I've just got home from work and will be there tonight to join the search. Come on Ben get your butt home. xxx

2012-05-21 17:25 smileyt

Team Ben, you are amazing and I feel like crying when I read how much you are doing. Liz, I am sending you a huge virtual hug.
Please let tonight be the night. xxx

2012-05-21 16:19 kelsley79

The girls from TEAM BEN will be searching again tonight due to the new sightings they will be meeting in the Mill Dam Park at 7.15pm if anyone would like to join them and help x

2012-05-21 16:02 anna

Fingers, legs, arms, eyes and everything else crossed that today is the day. I live on the south coast and have been following this from the beginning. The amount I've been praying I'm surprised he's not home yet. Would it be worth contacting Network Rail to ask if they can keep an eye out for him?

2012-05-21 15:24 NickyJ

Looking on Google maps the gardens for the houses further along Deerbolt Cres back onto the railway siding fences up towards the station - have these houses been leafleted?

2012-05-21 15:16 AnnieSparky

Fingers crossed xx I had a good look around the park on Saturday, will come down again after work today xx

2012-05-21 14:50 liz

She just texted again to say fields back of park adjacdent to Mill Lane running alongside railway.
Thankyou Team Ben, thankyou Gill for going in your lunch break. Thankyou BaileyP for phoning me just now. xxx

2012-05-21 14:39 liz

This sounds like he was going towards Carter Arms.

2012-05-21 14:37 liz

Just had this reply from her.

He was facing toward Kirkby sation on Mill Lane. It was just past the park on the opposite side and on the corner of Mill Lane and Deerbolt Crescent.

2012-05-21 14:27 liz

I've just texted her, didn't ring as she will be working. I daren't use my phones again as moby is almost £300 and landline £94.

2012-05-21 13:29 MojoPeanut

Was Ben heading towards the Carters Arms Liz?

2012-05-21 13:28 BaileyP

Welcome back dear doglost!!!!

Have updated the contact numbers on the remaining adverts to go in the papers later this week. Daily Post and Quids In. Perhaps I'll put in one more lot of adverts with updated details. What do you think?

2012-05-21 13:28 MojoPeanut

Just rushed to Mill Dam Park in my lunchhour with two other members of Team Ben. I walked the lake and gave fliers to the fishermen but then sadly had to come back to work. I have left the other two helpers in the area searching the nearby fields. Fingers crossed today is the day!

2012-05-21 13:17 liz

Just towards the crescent JMo x

2012-05-21 12:54 J MO

Liz, did the lady say which way the dog was heading?

2012-05-21 12:47 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz has already been to the area and had a look around. x

2012-05-21 12:46 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

I've been in touch with helpers and they are in the Mill Dam Pond area now following up the sighting. x

2012-05-21 12:34 AkitaTaz

That is a good sign Liz, it means that he is still in the area. If you aren't at work and have some time just go and sit near the pond where the food is being left for him. It is a sunny day, take a magazine or a book and let him smell you out xx

2012-05-21 12:26 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Claire Weston Turville and Tri's Mum. :) X

Have been in touch with Liz over the W/E.

To take the pressure off Liz two local helpers from Team Ben have agreed for their numbers to be on the posters etc for contact. They will be able to alert us of any sightings and as in the area follow any sightings up before other Team Ben helpers can get there. Many thanks to them for helping out you are STARS.

Team Ben are still postering/searching the areas at different times of the day. We just want that most import call and see him back home with his mum.

Details updated and UPDATED word doc various size posters now done and emailed to helper of Team Ben. I've started sharing the details again and thank you to others who are as well.

Liz thanks for the text alert re the sighting, did the lady say when it was. Will ring you later when home from work. xxx

2012-05-21 12:11 liz

Thankyou, I just had a call from someone saying they saw an old dog, same colouring as Ben limping along Mill Road at Dearbuild Crescent, he was on his own. She didn't have time to stop as she was on her way to work and there was a bus behind her. I just drove round there now, and no sign. Plenty of people about.

2012-05-21 11:52 Unknown

A cyclist in coach rd gave us some info on a lady that takes stray dogs in..the team Ben are checking this out this morning..Good Luck Ladies !! xx

2012-05-21 11:48 Unknown

We did 3 hours yesterday with dogs down coach lane..gave every biker..joggers.. guys walkin dogs leaflets..none knew bout ben..then there again all the others we met knew about him..went to some way out houses..gave them some as well..poor dogs nickered nockered nackered lo !!! xx

2012-05-21 10:22 liz

I may have to do that, but I don't want to go back on anything. I was on anti depressants fot 3 years after my divorce, and decided I was feeling strong enough to come off, then this happened. I feel like my heart has been ripped out of my body and I am still walking ruond, like a corpse/zombie.

2012-05-21 10:14 ClaireC

Hi Liz, it is always very sad to lose a beloved pet and not know where they are. I do feel for you but do also think, that with my little bit of medical knowledge gleaned from working within the medical world, that you perhaps should also seek some medical advice to help you get through this awful time until you are reunited with your Ben. I would think that your GP would be able to help you get the rest tht your body needs. I know what such a shock can do to your body and believe me it has long repercussions on long time health. Please please seek some professional help for you and with the aid and help of all your new found friends and volunteers I'm sure you will be reunited. xx

2012-05-21 10:07 liz

I am wondering if he got himself stuck and can't move and passed away. If he's under some bushes he will never be found. I wish this pain would go away. It's making me so ill. Thank you for your support.

2012-05-21 10:01 liz

Thankyou. I didn't stay at my parents. My dad upset me and doesn't understand the pain I am gong through and said he was sick of hearing about Ben. I packed my bags and left. I drove round Bickerstaffe with my full beam on around midnight. I came home and my mum was waiting for me a my house. I feel sick and shivery. I keep having panic attacks. I am not working tonight. I got the night off with having an interview tomorrow. Every TV programme yesterday were reminders of Ben. Chelsea Flower Show, I can't look at poppies without thinking of him walking through them. Coast, I realised, I've taken Ben all over the UK, all the coast lines, Scotland, Wales, England and Ireland. I have videos on my phone I can't bear to watch. Where is he? He should be sitting on the lawn sunning himself today.

2012-05-20 00:08 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks a million AndyT greatly appreciated. :) x

2012-05-20 00:08 Mossey

Brilliant Andy, the more people who know about Ben the more chance of getting him home

2012-05-19 23:59 AndyT

I saw the piece about Ben in the Champion this week - and as I've used this site before I thought I'd look here. 

I live next to Bickerstaffe (Lathom) and my milkman delivers all around the Bickerstaffe area and all the way back up to Tower Hill so I've printed posters and will pass them to him to see if he can keep a look out or can ask his customers if they've seen Ben. He's a good guy - loves dogs - so I'm sure he will help out.

My thoughts and hopes are with you.

2012-05-19 23:58 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks tri's mum. :) x

2012-05-19 23:55 Unknown

Only want to find Ben.or sightings !! will go looking again tomorrow..there must be others that have sighted him as well..i was wishin my full beam would pick summit up..!!! xx

2012-05-19 23:50 Unknown

Myself & Sarah just home..we left at 8.30..went up dairy farm rd with our two dogs..posted to way way out houses were u had to unlock gates to get through each time..then we walked up looking in fields along railway banking..it then started going dusk & gettiing very scarey indeed..we were on the coach rd at this point (from rainford end ) then we hit bickerstaffe at the other end..went down track to the farm with my full beam on..saw nothing !! but we set Hiedi off barking..we spoke to her for a bit..lol..then drove home on full beam..but picked nothing up at all ..no one new anything at all about Ben..but all on the look out now & going to pass posters to the livery staff tomorrow "Ben were are you " !!!! xx

2012-05-19 22:16 jansus

Sorry , did not mean to generalise - I use facebook myself and agree it has its uses. And as I said you also get these people on newspaper forums. What I was saying was do not take it personally - it happens to the best of people.concentrate on where you are reciving support , not critisism as it can wear you down when you least need it.

2012-05-19 22:05 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Mossey, MojoPeanut and foggy for the help on the ground greatly appreciated.

Liz we are all still here to help you, you need to take some time out and let Team Ben look for him for you. xxx

2012-05-19 21:57 foggy

I will go out again tomorrow and moniter were the food that JMO has put down, thinking of you Liz, try and get some rest because sleep deprivation is a killer. xx

2012-05-19 21:50 MojoPeanut

I'll second that Mossey xx

2012-05-19 21:48 Mossey

All the people on the facebook page are still 100% looking for Ben and are not trolls and nasty people.

2012-05-19 21:36 jansus

unfortunately facebook is rife with trolls and othr nasty people. Dont take it personally .Even Madeline McCanns parents were subject to the most vile comments. I dont know how people can stoop so low.Quigley (another lost dog on here) was put in the bucks free press and some of the comments were also unbelieveable, I leapt to the defence of the owners - but then realised you are just feeding the attention that these sad people crave. I have got to say that Dogs Lost is one of the few forums that does not seem to suffer from this problem. So why not abandon face book and concentrate on all the wonderful help you are getting here. sometimes I think you have to concentrate on the publicity and rest yourself , rebuild your strength for when you hopefully get the next sighting and then you will be ready for an all out search. thinking of you.

2012-05-19 21:15 liz

Thanks J MO that sort of gives comfort

2012-05-19 21:11 J MO

Thanx Nik. I was in a garden centre near Bickerstaffe today and the Sale Assistant had seen the Advertiser and was asking the Customers if they had seen Ben. I left her with leaflets to hand out. The news of Ben's missing is spreading.

Liz, there is a Collie missing from Leyland for 3 weeks longer than Ben and sightings have started to come in. As an older dog Ben will be used to sleeping for long periods and if he has found a quiet comfy spot he will happily stay put. X

2012-05-19 20:53 Unknown

The coverage in Ormskirk Advertiser and the Ormskirk Champion this week will have reached a tremendous amount of people. (Thanks to both reporters for supporting Ben's cause.) The sheer number of people who are now aware that Ben is missing help enormously. Don't forget, sightings don't necessarily come in straight away. Keep up the wonderful work !

2012-05-19 20:18 solitairejane

Liz, I'm sitting here crying reading your post about the night Ben went missing. Please don't blame yourself for what happened. He knows you love him and if he could have made his way back that night he would have. He's just got lost and we are all hoping hes back home with you soon. I can only imagine the heart break you are feeling right now but with any loss there comes a time when you turn a corner. We're all still hoping you get that important phone call but until then surround yourself with family and friends and think about the wonderful times you and your boy have had. I know it's the not knowing that is the worst to deal with but the only.consolation I can offer you is that he was well loved and lived as long as he has because he was well cared for. Not many doggies have that luxury. You have been blessed to have each other and who knows what tomorrow may bring. Try and be positive if you can, at least for a bit longer. Regards Jane Helm

2012-05-19 20:04 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Helpers on the ground are still on the look out for Ben. With all the postering and media coverage we just need more sightings and hopefully that most important call that someone has him or can get to the area to see him.

Thanks again for the continued support by everyone, especially the helpers on the ground searching/postering in the area. xxx

2012-05-19 19:56 J MO

Not sure what's gone on Liz but there are a lot of genuine people supporting you and helping to find Ben. You have our mobile numbers if you want an update and I truely hope that the articles in the papers will lead to the phonecall that reunites you with Ben.

I will continue with the search x

2012-05-19 19:42 liz

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2012-05-19 13:01 florida4

Hi, I dont live in your area but am sharing Ben's page as I have many friends in facebook so the more people that get to hear about him then that means more eyes and ears helping to locate him for you. I really hope Ben comes home to you soon, have you tried your local dogs homes, vets, dog warden etc? xx

2012-05-19 08:11 NickyJ

There are lots of people thinking of you. nx

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2012-05-19 06:31 liz

Awoke again to an empty house. The pain is still raw. 4 weeks today, I got up for work, got ready slowly, then as I set off at 8.30 I promised Ben, I would be home after 1. I never did come home until 7. I fed him, let him out, but went off out again. I came home after midnight, and opened the door, said "Come On" he shot off, and I turned away for that second to grab the lead and lock the door and lost him forever. I hate myself forever. He would still be living out his days now, on this sunny Saturday. I can't get rid of this pain and loss.

2012-05-19 03:24 liz

I am still awake and crying so loudly. It's 3:15am and my neighbour must be covering his ears. I am missing Ben's cuddles and him just being here. I am in so much pain right now. To think he may have died alone. I can't bear it. The thought of not holding him again. I used to take him to Morrisons in Ormskirk, when we first moved down here, and walk him on the park, then feed him hot sausages from the deli counter. When I lost my job, it was cheapo party sausages from Iceland, but I was proud to show him off wherever we went. I've never felt pain like this before. I miss him so much. At least in the middle of the night, he was there before, and now he's not. I tried to think about him and project my love to him, but I am a cynic and don't beleive in psychic bull. It doesn't help when people, although well meaning, keep saying they can see him and profess to be psychics. It irritates me. It's cobblers and they are just self promoting rubbish. Ben is a little innocent and I kept having memories about when we first got him, when we took him to Scotland and he climbed the hills up and down 3 times more than we did, then put himself to bed after his tea. Sitting on my ex's knee. Curling up on the settee on my lap. Getting jealous of the computer or laptop, or even TV if I smiled at it and not him.

2012-05-18 23:26 liz

Went to Wetherspoons after work then McDonalds. I got in half an hour ago, and now showered and cup of tea before bed. Am crying my eyes out again. Someone came up to me and said he saw me and Ben and he was my shadow, following me everywhere. This set me off. Where is he? He should be with me. I know he was frightened and lost at the farm and before that, but I hope he hasn't curled up and died from stress and hunger. It seems the only option unless someone has just taken him and being cruel. There was an old man who used to have a go at me leaving him tied up outside Wetherspoons, and kept messing with his lead and giving him treats. I didn't like it, and told him on many occasion to mind his own business and to leave him alone. I stopped going there because it was harrassment. It took me a while to realise he had special needs. He has no bottom teeth and I went in tonight to see if he was there to follow him home. He lives on Pingwood and have passed him before on that road. He also goes to the shops nearby. I never thought of him before until BaileyP mentioned that I suspected him. He really only goes there in the day so I may have to follow him tomorrow after work. I really don't think he has him, but you never know. If Ben was spotted round that area, he may just have him & is punishing me.

2012-05-18 22:40 J MO

Akita Taz, the food is being eaten but it could be rats, other dogs. I'm hoping that Ben picks up the smell and it encourages him to stay put or go back to the same area and one of us might spot him. It's difficult knowing where to put the food as the areas where Ben has been seen are vast

2012-05-18 20:50 AnnieSparky

Am new on here but read about Ben in local (ormskirk) paper. I can see many good people already helping to find Ben but I wanted to say I will keep a look out in all the areas mentioned and will try my best to take a trip to the park. Is it on Mill Lane? Have never been there, though have driven in area as not too far from where I live. Fingers crossed and best wishes to Liz.

2012-05-18 20:30 ClaireC

Hi Liz as I said before your new found friends are really remarkable people. I also think you should "take time out" and try to enjoy your family time in the knowledge that everybody will continue to keep an eye out for Ben. xx

2012-05-18 20:17 AkitaTaz

Hi JMo thanks for leaving the food. Do you know if it is being taken? I really do hope that it is Ben who is staying in the area xx

2012-05-18 16:37 jobadger

A bbq if anyone has the time......I so wish I still lived in Anfield!

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2012-05-18 15:57 J MO

Hi Liz, the guys are right you need to take a break. Team Ben will continue to search for him and to leave food. I will post any updates on here rather than keep texting you x

I have been out to Kirkby and Bickerstaffe today and have left pilchards opposite Mill Dam Park to the left of the entrance into millenium Park, in the grassland/wooded area to the left of the Fairhaven Residential bungalows and in the footpath part of Coach Lane to see if we can attract him out and keep Ben in one place. These where the last three areas where Ben was sighted.

There areas will need regular checking.

I will go again tomorow and put more food in the same place. Can anyone think of anything better than pilchards?

2012-05-18 14:31 Unknown

Jobadger, pretty sure he only does speaking these days but will check out.

2012-05-18 14:02 liz

Marlene rang and it wasn't Ben - thanks Marlene

2012-05-18 13:07 jobadger

Nik - what about Degsy's radio spot - does he still do one - Derek Hatton, I mean? xx

2012-05-18 12:30 liz

Just got a call from a lady who said she lives in Mawdsley and is a pensioner and was dancing at the hall near St Andrews in Longton, which is PR post code and not far from my parents. She said she saw a dog like Ben bumping into things in graveyard and he'd been spotted there 3 days. She has gone to look for him again. I have to go in early today, as I am sitting with the team I have an interview with. I can't use my mobile until 20th when I get my next lot of minutes. If anyone wants to call she's on 07709555002. I didn't get her name.

2012-05-18 12:27 Unknown

Liz, jobadger is offering good advice. You need a break. Spend time with your family this weekend and let Team Ben continue their amazing work. (Guys, I know you're all tired, too, but I know you'll give it your best shot.) I'll see if I can generate a few radio mentions over the weekend.

2012-05-18 11:57 BBKM

Liz please stay positive, this last sighting only 2 days ago may bring Ben home very soon. I live too far away to help search but boy have I felt like just getting in my car throwing a sleeping bag in and driving down there to help Team Ben. You are all fantastic people helping to bring this boy home xx

2012-05-18 10:10 jobadger

{{{{{BIG HUG}}}}} Please don't give up on Ben, Liz - you've got family coming over this weekend - take a step backwards and a deep breath - life deals us some pretty awful cards sometimes. Thinking of you. xxx

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2012-05-18 06:22 liz

Thankyou everyone. Tanks Jayne, but am far from in good spirits. I've just woken up crying again. I may have to accept he's gone for good. Thankyou everyone for your tireless help and devotion to finding Ben. He's not been since Bank Holiday weekend and I can only assume it's not good. I am withdrawing now. I know it seems ungrateful, but I can't keep checking my phone, driving everywhere. It's killing me. I have to now accept I may never see him again. It's the start of the grieving process for me.
Liz xxxx

2012-05-17 22:45 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Tx J mo...you are a star....bedtime for me...

2012-05-17 22:44 Mash

Just back from doing along Pingwood, Sineacre Lane, Coach Road, Church Road and a lot of the other lanes in Bickerstaffe. No sightings

2012-05-17 22:28 J MO

I have been leaving pilchards at the entrance to Millenium Park opposite Mill Dam Park at the railway side of the brook which is where the last sighting was last Saturday.

We need to leave food also in that grassland area by the Sheltered accommodation bungalows by Ravenscroft School, at Coach Lane in Bickerstaffe where it turns into a footpath and somewhere in between Pingwood and Bickerstaffe (the field next to the frozen food place where it runs alongside the haulage yard) to try and keep Ben in one place.

Hopefully if he knows there is a source of food it will encourage him to stay put. I will put more pilchards out 2moro on my way home and let you know where. These areas will need to be checked regularly for sightings.

It is good that we had a potential sighting from the article in the Advertiser. It is Market day in Ormskirk on Saturday and more people will buy the Advertiser then.

I have placed Ben's poster on Morrison's customer noticeboard in Ormskirk.

2012-05-17 22:21 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Have just spent the good part of the last hour on the phone to Liz...she realy appreciates all the help...and is in good spirits...tx everyone...

2012-05-17 22:20 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Mash you and your family have been so helpful, it was great to meet you all last week. Now the paper has gone out more people will be on the look out for Ben. x

2012-05-17 21:41 Mash

Done all through Bickerstaff, Coach Rd etc. Now at Mill Dam and doing around that area before heading back. Sorry not been very successful as yet !!

2012-05-17 21:29 Polly

How sad I had high hopes it was him. Ben may not be there but he is out there somewhere. We must all keep going and keep the faith and then some how some way Ben will be found. There is so much love out there for him. Every one out there looking for Ben, please look after youselves and stay safe, all of you are quite simply wonderful. x

2012-05-17 21:24 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Aaah...just caught up with your earlier post Andi....well no problem with more people being alerted...will change poster back to not mention Bispham Green...

2012-05-17 21:19 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Sent...

2012-05-17 21:18 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Tx Majorjet who has just given me the location of Bispham Green...can now send alerts out to helpers in L40,w6,8. pr7,26.

2012-05-17 21:16 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Mash and Andi for the update. Andi thanks for the text I've alerted MoJoPeanut and Deb. x

2012-05-17 21:05 Andi

Sorry chaps, the house in question DOES have a golden retriever and it could have been mistaken for Ben having seen it - he does tend to lie inside their garden through the bushes so that might be our "sighting" for last night :-( Owner also said it would be very difficult for another dog to get in there without their dog alerting them. With this information and the distance/difficulty of the journey, I think we have to assume it is a false alarm unfortunately?

2012-05-17 21:03 Mash

Hi. Sorry to say but have knocked on White House on corner and having now seen their dog (a golden retriever) think this is a false alarm. Going to head to Bickerstaff now as out and do what we can

2012-05-17 20:52 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Great to get the news with the fresh sighting, thanks a million Laura for taking the time to register on DogLost and post on here (welcome aboard). Keeping everything crossed it is Ben and we can find him.

Have not been able to join Team Ben crew tonight but on my way home dropped lots of posters to MoJoPeanut just as she was leaving to go to the area. WELL DONE Team Ben you area all amazing. Come on Ben we want to see you in the BLUE.

Jayne the area is L40 would be great if email alerts could go out as far as possible and include the Kirkby L33 areas. x

2012-05-17 20:49 Andi

Spoken now to residents of big white house and now checking their outbuildings - will put a laminated poster on the tree outside as plenty dogwalkers pass by there too

2012-05-17 20:49 Mash

Hi. Can we assume therefore that this is a false alarm and need to look back Bickerstaff way? Pls advise ASAP . Mojo pls call if you have any more info. Thanks

2012-05-17 20:42 foggy

Just got in from Chorley Road and the corner house on Maltkin Lane, asked at the house opposite to where the dog was seen in the bushes and the lady said that they have a golden retriever and apparently it does lie in the bushes. :-(

2012-05-17 19:57 Polly

Just looked on google maps where Ben may have been seen and in a field by the big white house is a large green shed, the door was open when the area was scanned but maybe it's always open and he is sheltering in it. I am so proud of all the wonderful people who are searching for the precious boy, it restore's my faith in human nature.

2012-05-17 19:31 Unknown

Such a wonderful team you have behind you Liz you so deserve to get Ben home all of you that are involved in this search.
Bless all of you.
Stay positive Liz and keep strong for Ben.


Good luck one and all.

COME ON BEN MAKE THIS THE NIGHT YOU GO HOME STAY SAFE DARLING XXXX

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2012-05-17 19:18 NickyJ

Corner of Chorley Road and Malt Kiln Lane, I've put a yellow pin in this exact spot on the map at:
http://g.co/maps/t84jh

2012-05-17 19:13 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Can do mailing but need to know where to....anyone with more exact location please of possible sighting last nigt...ie village name...did look up the postcode given but could see no Chorley road...sorry I dont know the area...

2012-05-17 19:12 Mash

Have been back to That area again. Scouted round Bannister Lane/Bentley Lane and from Farmers Arms to Eagle and Child - still no sightings. Sorry

2012-05-17 18:58 kelsley79

The ladies will be at Mill Dam Park at Kirkby around half 7 if anyone wants to meet after that I will need to text to get their location

2012-05-17 18:51 NickyJ

I have updated The Google map showing all of the possible sightings of Ben so far:

http://g.co/maps/t84jh

2012-05-17 18:51 kelsley79

A couple of the girls from Bens facebook page are going to the area tonight about 7.30/8 pm if anyone wants to meet up with them leave a comment on here and I will Liaise with them via Bens page and sort a meeting point out x

2012-05-17 17:10 bri-bri86

so wish i was closer i would help with the search :(
read all the posts and he is obvs a much loved and missed doggie, hope hes home soon. My own dog went missing many years back i searched and hoped she would turn up safe but no trace was found, still think of her each day its heartbreaking reading some of the stories on here but the support network created for the owners is fantastic! fingers crossed the latest sighting leads to Ben been back home where he belongs x

2012-05-17 17:10 Mash

Been lookin there about 30 mins. Can go back later. Have asked around. People are away due to Ormskirk press release. Mojo. You have my number. Keep me posted. Thanks

2012-05-17 17:08 MojoPeanut

Thanks J Mo.
Mash is in the area now and no sign of Ben. Priority tonight will be getting posters up and leafleting the local houses - also having a little look around xx

2012-05-17 17:03 Cath

Hoping so badly this is Ben and that he is ok.

2012-05-17 16:53 DEE

This sounds like some positive news, come on ben time to come home now

2012-05-17 16:47 J MO

Mojo, sorry i can't go later but i had a text from Liz and she is going to go after she finished work.

Jayne/Jan, can we email alert Ben's poster to all helpers in that area?

2012-05-17 16:27 MojoPeanut

Mash, I can't get doglost on my mobile very quickly. I can get fb though. By all means email me your mobile number and we can keep in touch that way xx

2012-05-17 16:23 Mash

Mojo Sorry - saw the details after my posting - I have to go out this evening but will leave now and go via that way. I think I know where Laura means - if its just as you turn in there is a house with a very big garden on the left that then goes into Woodland - can do a look for about 30 mins shortly but can go back later too. Will keep in touch via here so pls keep me updated. thanks

2012-05-17 16:16 MojoPeanut

Laura, when you say 'stuck' do you just mean in a trance or was he stuck behind the hedge? Was it someones front garden? Is there anyway you would be able to give us a phone number so we can call you to get more details? You can email it to me if you wish as I appreciate you won't want to advertise it on here! My email address is gill_kelley@hotmail.com xx

2012-05-17 16:02 AkitaTaz

Hey Laura thanks for posting on Doglost x There are lots of us on here that are unable to physically help look whether it be through distance or health. You may be the Angel that Ben has been looking for to help him find his way home to his mum xx

2012-05-17 15:57 Laura

I couldn't not get in touch. As soon as I saw Ben's photos in the paper I felt certain that that was the dog I'd seen. You don't often see a dog of his colouring and that was what caught my eye first, and now reading the article, his health problems seemed to make sense of the dog being stuck. I hope you get somewhere with the search, please believe I'm with you in spirit and thinking of Ben. Maybe someone else in the area noticed the dog too? I'd love for this to have a happy ending.

2012-05-17 15:48 MojoPeanut

Don't worry Laura, we understand. You have lit up Ben's facebook page and dog lost page with activity as everyone wants to get up there and search now. Thank you again xx

2012-05-17 15:46 Laura

I'm sorry if I come across as reluctant but I'm quite poorly at the moment. I'll help as much as I can though. As you turn off Chorley Road onto Malt Kiln Lane there is a house on the left and then some bushes and fencing, which is where I saw the dog stuck between the two, near some trees. I'm looking at it on Streetview and these are the co-ordinates I have of the spot: 53.608829,-2.76245. I really hope that helps.

2012-05-17 15:39 MojoPeanut

Hi Mash, its below in Laura's post "corner of Malt Kiln Lane and Chorley Road". Post code according to google maps is L40 3SQ. Anyone heading up there this afternoon? I am planning to go this evening with another member of Team Ben.

2012-05-17 15:35 Mash

Hi Laura - do you know the road name for this sighting/exact location ?

2012-05-17 15:34 MojoPeanut

J Mo is this far from you? If you want I can meet up tonight and go have a wander. Let me know xx

2012-05-17 15:30 Laura

I live near Burscough and am not very mobile / well at the moment, otherwise I'd have been straight back with someone this afternoon. I can give you the precise location though and help any way I can. I would love for it to be Ben and for you to find him.

2012-05-17 15:19 MojoPeanut

Thanks for getting in touch Laura. Are you from Liverpool? Just wondering if I picked you up tonight would you be able to show us exactly where you saw Ben? He has been missing for nearly 4 weeks now and this is the first sighting in nearly 10 days :) Team Ben have searched endlessly and just want him home with his Mum now xx

2012-05-17 15:14 Laura

Near Parbold, Mawdesley, The Eagle & Child Pub etc.

2012-05-17 15:11 J MO

Laura, is this in Ormskirk or Bisphan Green near Mawdsle

2012-05-17 15:05 Laura

I'm unable to go back as I don't drive, but I've just checked online maps and it was on the corner of Malt Kiln Lane and Chorley Road. It is a farming area and I've just noticed he was seen near a farm before. The dog I saw didn't seem injured just a bit stuck / confused. I'm not very good on the phone but I will contact her via text because I can't stop thinking about it now.

2012-05-17 14:54 AkitaTaz

Hi Laura have you contacted Liz (Bens mum)with this info? Is there anyway that you can go back and see if he is still in the area?

2012-05-17 14:34 Laura

I just saw the article in the Ormskirk Advertiser. I'm worried I'll get your hopes up but I think I may have seen Ben near Bispham Green, Ormskirk last night. We were travelling by car and I saw a ginger dog between some bushes and fencing alongside the road. I wanted to go back to check the dog was okay, as I thought it unusual but was persuaded that it probably belonged to someone close by. Then I saw Ben in the paper this afternoon and I'm convinced it was him. I could be wrong but I have a Collie too and know I'd want to hear even the slightest chance of a sighting.

2012-05-17 12:41 liz

Jay Scott has kindly gone out now and is looking. Have left her my mobile and can pick her up later.

2012-05-17 11:45 liz

My broadband was on this morning at 4am but went off again. I've had to come to my parents to use theirs. I keep veering between thinking he's passed away and then thinking he's surviving. If he was seen a couple of weeks later on the farm, he was clever enough to find that place and hide out. It's almost 2 weeks now since that last sighting at the farm. There are that many posters up at Mill Dam and Bickerstaffe, so I just don't know what to think.

2012-05-17 10:39 Jafin

Like Claire and Tucker I am too far away to help search but like them I check everyday to see if Ben is back with you. I have shared Ben's details on my Facebook page too. Keep strong Liz, my thoughts are with you and Ben xx

Last edited: 2012-05-17 10:41:36 by Jafin

2012-05-17 09:36 BaileyP

Advert is in Liverpool Echo today and will be in again on Monday. x

2012-05-17 08:57 ClaireC

Hi Liz, every morning and last thing at night I turn to Ben's page to see if he is in the "blue". Stay strong Liz for I'm sure he will turn "blue" and you will both be reunited again. I think I speak for most people who watch this site and live in the South and that we wish we were nearer to help you find him. You have some very remarkable people and now friends helping you and you have some remarkable people who are unable to go out and physically look for him that are wishing and praying his return home every minute of the day. It will happen stay strong xx

2012-05-17 08:29 Trish at K9 Dreams

Liz, I can only imagine the terrible pain you must be going through. I know these words are pretty hollow at the moment and I am so sorry, but please stay strong love, you are doing a fantastic job and Ben is out there somewhere, I have faith that he will be home with you soon. Sending you love, prayers and strength, Trish xx

2012-05-17 03:53 liz

I've just woken again to the living nightmare that is life. I got into bed at 10.30 fully clothed. I've had all sorts of disturbing dreams. I woke at 3.40am and I am so thoroughly miserabl tha I can't see the point in life or anything. April 22nd, I was happy when I finished work and knew I had my animals at home. The 23rd everything changed.

2012-05-17 00:01 jinny

hi liz i have just been reading about another little dog who has just returned home after 3 weeks ,so there is still time for you to find your little man,sending hugs xx

2012-05-16 23:33 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Champion is today Nik, I've not seen it myself but J MO said it is good coverage, I'll ask work colleagues for a copy if they have it. x

2012-05-16 23:15 Unknown

Anyone tell me what day of the week the Ormskirk Champion and Advertiser publish ? Usefully, their websites don't say.....

2012-05-16 22:44 tucker

I'm too far away to join with your search... but I'm so hoping you track your gorgeous boy down. Sending all my prayers and good thoughts that he's home with you soon. I keep checking , hoping to see him in the blue with some lovely reunited photos.xxx Have everything crossed for you both.xxx

2012-05-16 21:15 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks for the update Liz and texts, I've not long got home but will ring you soon. x

2012-05-16 21:11 liz

Thankyou to Charlotte. She brought her dog and little girl. We searched the farm, the dog sniffed where the farmer's wife had seen him hiding. We walked the lane to the road, Sinecar road, but her dog turned right past the cottages into a wide grassy area and seemed to want to go to the farmer's field, the same field belonging to the farm, but it was the one that takes you to Coach Rd. We went up to Moss Side and her dog found nothing. We drove round to Coach Rd, and found old poo but it was too big to be Ben's. We went to Mill Dam Park, walked round and went across under viaduct to Millenium Park. We went to Saxon Green but nothing. THe dog, seemed to want to go the way Wispa went, a different way from park. This explains why he was seen on Weaver Road, then Pingwood Rd, then running towards the farm directon and eventually on the farm. I came home and hung up my stuff, and there is a bag with his picture on it, and I just looked at it, and said "We're not going to see each other again are we?"

2012-05-16 19:56 DogLostJulie - Area Co-ordinator - Surrey & South London

Here's hoping for good news tonight. Keep positive Liz although these days seem dark and grey believe me the sun will come out ! xx Julie

2012-05-16 18:37 jobadger

Ben's piece in the Ormskirk Champion:
http://www.champnews.com/newsstory.aspx?story=3026550&word=&userid=

2012-05-16 18:28 AkitaTaz

Thanks J Mo for leaving food out x

2012-05-16 18:14 foggy

Fingers crossed Liz for tonight xxxx

2012-05-16 17:39 J MO

I have left Pilchards opposite the Mill Dam Park next to the entrance of Millenium Park where Ben had been sighted. Will keep putting more there each day so we need to keep checking this area. Hopefully if there is regaular food it might encourage Ben to stay in one place.

Good article on Ben in the Ormskirk Champion hope it brings more sightings x

Last edited: 2012-05-16 19:24:28 by J MO

2012-05-16 17:30 PA

Oh good luck Liz, sooo hoping you get good news. PA.

2012-05-16 17:22 AnneM

Best of luck Liz ... keeping everything crossed x

2012-05-16 17:16 liz

Just rang and spoke to lady who is meeting me at Pear Tree pub. She says her dog can find anything. So here's hoping and fingers crossed. If anyone wants to join us, we're meeting in about half an hour or longer.

2012-05-16 16:43 PA

Awe Liz keep youre chin up love im sure it wont be long before hes found. With all you & everyone helping you have done you so deserve to get youre beautiful boy back home with you. Praying & crossing everything for you. PA.

2012-05-16 16:35 liz

My house smells of him, I have his bedding, I haven't changed my duvet where he sometimes sleeps on the end of my bed. I am heartbroken for my sweetheart. I can't get any worse than how I am right now.

2012-05-16 16:33 liz

BrubetchaBoxers, can you call me? 01515481604. I've had to call in sick. Well swapped shift for my day off tomorrow. I can't focus today. AllI can see now are his legs. I bent down to put washing on and he normally comes and pokes me with his long nose and I look round and see his furry legs. I am sick with it all and feeling very low. I am feeling quite suicidal but I need to be here for him.

2012-05-16 15:40 BrubetchaBoxers

Hi all im new on here and noticed ben has been missing sometime now and want to help. i have 3 boxers myself and would go to the end of the world for them! I go daily to the woodside farm. which is just off the east lancs (left at roundabout immediately before the gamebird pub. im not sure the area that falls into but have seen nothiing up to now but will now keep an eye out and inform others that ride out in the area from the farm.
also if there is something of bens with scent on. my boy can find anything! and if anyone is searching and want me to bring him along for a tracking session id love to help! Hope your ok liz. chin up ! We will find him! Xx

2012-05-16 14:09 BaileyP

Any sign of Liz today? I sent her a pack of posters if anyone needs any.

2012-05-16 09:26 B30

Advertised in this weeks Countryman's Weekly magazine

2012-05-16 09:07 Meru

Surley Ben's story qualifies for radio and tv coverage. People are routing for Ben from all over the world.
Please come home Ben

2012-05-16 01:36 Unknown

WOW !!! Just over 40,OOO Views..thats amazing.. !!! " Come on Ben let today be the day " !!! xxx

2012-05-15 23:02 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Mossey, just need that one call when one of us or Liz can get to the area when there has been a sighting. So frustrating that none of us have seen him. Keeping everything crossed the paper coverage will bring more in.

Thanks to BaileyP for putting the add in the Liverpool Echo, this paper covers the areas Ben has been sighted and also further afield and has brought calls in. The call from Speke near Liverpool Airport is a good distance away and was good to see people looking out for him but sad about the found decomposed dog/fox. :( x

2012-05-15 21:44 Mossey

I have been walking and sitting in mill farm and the millenium park for the last couple of hours, nothing at all, so frustrating x

2012-05-15 20:45 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks J MO you are a star. We could do with Liz also leaving some scenting in this area as well. If it is him there has been a few sightings in the same area over the past few weeks. x

2012-05-15 20:35 J MO

Bought pilchards today so will leave some accross the road from Mill Dam park and to the left of the bridge to Millenium Park where Ben was sighted on Saturday and far enough from the road so that don't encourage the White Collie to cross the road.

I will do the same every night on the way home and smear it into the grass to try and encourage Ben to stay in one place.

Can everyone who goes out check this area

2012-05-15 18:09 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Great stuff...Thanks Nik for doing the press releases...

2012-05-15 17:46 Unknown

Ormskirk Champion story: http://www.champnews.com/newsstory.aspx?story=3026550&word=&userid=

2012-05-15 17:43 Unknown

Liz, glad both reporters have phoned you. I know Jamie was keen to help.

2012-05-15 17:30 Unknown

NickyJ, this is so helpful for me in order to tell the media !

2012-05-15 17:26 NickyJ

I have plotted all of the possible sightings of Ben onto an online map:

http://g.co/maps/t84jh

If you want any of the plottings, sightings or descriptions amended then just let me know and I'll update it. I hope I've got all the places right. Hope this helps to see if poss to guess where he might be headed now.

Last edited: 2012-05-15 19:18:45 by NickyJ

2012-05-15 14:40 foggy

I drove around, Mill Dam area, Shevington Lane, Ebony way down to Pingwood Road and then into Bickerstaffe, Ill try and get out again later x

2012-05-15 13:53 J MO

That's good Liz. I emailed Ben's poster to the Advertiser and Champion but wasn't sure if they would take it further x

2012-05-15 13:46 NickyJ

Liz, as I'm emailing his poster out today I'm also logging him as lost on sites if I come across some (out of your local area) that he's not already on - just incase they contact you I'm filling in your details from the poster info.
Just hoping to add more pairs of eyes looking out for him.

Last edited: 2012-05-15 17:21:14 by NickyJ

2012-05-15 13:07 Mash

Jan/Liz. Have helped look and been following regularly but now a bit confused on the last sightings. Was going to try and get a bit of time to look again but need to know the most recent sighting. Keeping fingers crossed.

2012-05-15 12:52 BaileyP

I've placed another two adverts in the Echo for Thursday, and Monday next week plus all the free papers and the Internet version from Thursday.

2012-05-15 12:21 BaileyP

Just posted 50 posters to Liz. Will be there tomorrow.

2012-05-15 11:58 liz

Jamie Bowman from Ormskirk Advertiser just called me, he caught me crying my eyes out. He took details from me and even about the gang of lads in Kirkby townie playing a cruel trick on me. He said he was going to help find him by putting the story in the paper. Just as the guy from the Champion said.

2012-05-15 11:33 liz

Had a call from someone from the Champion Paper I think he said. It was an hour ago at my mum's. I told him all about Ben and where he was last seen on farm, and other sightings.

2012-05-15 10:21 liz

Thankyou BaileyP. Forgot to say I had to leave at 9am to get to parents. Their internet is so frustratingly slow. Slower than mine. I hae family committments Thursday, a funeral in St Helen's then my God daughter is getting confirmed on Sunday so I will staying there Sunday evening. My brother is home from Seattle with his fiancee, and I only see him once a year.
If Ben is found, I can drop everything to come and get him, otherwise, I need to spend this time with my family.

2012-05-15 10:03 BaileyP

Just secretly printing out some posters at work which I will send to you Liz.

There's a lost sheltie been reported not far from me (i have shelties). They are notoriously hard to catch! I won't abandon Team Ben!! xx

2012-05-15 09:58 liz

Thankyou NickJ and foggy, I went out at 5am - 6am, drove all round Kirkby, up to Bickerstaffe, then again at 7:30 to Mill Dam and all round. Came home, got dressed (as I had been in PJs) and then went out at 8, drove round Mill Dam and Millenium Park and walked round graveyard, then back to Mill Dam again, and walked to where he had been seen. I had to leave as I had to come to my parents.

2012-05-15 09:49 foggy

I am going to go out in all that area now so fingers crossed come on Ben show yourself to me x

2012-05-15 07:50 NickyJ

I'm still following this daily - If these sightings really are all Ben then it's quite possible he's following the train sidings - these are often where there's lots of wildlife living as no humans around there - which adds to my theory that the night he went missing he chased after a fox. All I can do from here in Bucks is follow on Google maps and I've emailed the poster out to many businesses and a school in Bickerstaffe.
Have posters been taken in to all schools as kids are v good at spotting things?

Talk about needle in a haystack. But he's moving around, and not travelling huge distances, so might very well be doing the same route. I'm going to re-email all the businesses I can find and that big Williams Indust Est - so many places for him to hide around there I bet - lots of people working there and coming and going in lorries.
I think you're all doing a marvelous job. Nxx

Last edited: 2012-05-15 08:19:19 by NickyJ

2012-05-15 05:06 liz

Hi Jan, yes I saw it. That's why I mentioned it was our local and how lovely peops in the are. It's pouring down, but I've put boots on and big jumper and hooded scarf on over jarmies as I don't want to waste time getting properly dressed. Off out now for a drive, although it's pouring it down and doubt he will come out in it. Will start at Mill Dam then go off to Pingwood Rd and to Bickerstaffe.

2012-05-14 23:53 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks solitairejane. :) x

2012-05-14 23:50 solitairejane

Liz I was one of the helpers tonight. I'm going to post leaflets to Post Offices in the boroughs surrounding the area Ben went missing in. A lot of people are in and out of them so it's good exposure. Also going to send some to vets to display in their waiting rooms. Maybe we also need to think about schools in the areas surrounding Kirkby too. Let's hope this sighting on Saturday brings us the news we are all so desperate for.

2012-05-14 23:40 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, I've mentioned the sighting two weeks ago near Pingwood in my earlier update. x

2012-05-14 23:39 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Nik. x

2012-05-14 23:28 Unknown

So busy working on the PR for the app that I think I forgot to say that I sent a press release to the Ormskirk Champion and an email to the producer of This Morning's lost pet section in case they repeat it this week.

2012-05-14 23:26 liz

Thanks Basil and BaileyP xx I really must go to sleep now. xxx NIght

2012-05-14 23:24 liz

The Pingwood is one of my locals. Me and Ben went there often. It's one of few pubs you can bring dogs into. They are sweet kind lovely people. THe other pub is the Railway, not far from Mill Dam, and they also have a poster. Deb said someone said they had seen him two weeks ago near Pingwood. x

2012-05-14 23:15 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks MojoPeanut for checking the highways agency today greatly appreciated. :) x

Highways agency said there had been no reported incidents and if they did find a dog they have scanners and would of contacted Liz. x

2012-05-14 23:08 BBKM

Just want to say I keep checking on here several times a day and Team Ben you are doing brilliant. Stay strong Liz you are sounding much more positive. Praying Ben is safe and will be home very soon xx
Also very sad to read about the decomposed dog/fox, poor thing..RIP X

2012-05-14 23:06 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

One of the ladies who mentioned about a sighting lives in Chamberlain Drive and the sighted area she pointed to is Pingwood Lane, she said it was two weeks ago on a Thursday and it was her son who seen him. She asked did he have a limp, that could be the stiffness he has in his back legs. x

2012-05-14 22:58 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Great just got my Internet sorted and back online now. :)

Thanks J MO and MojoPeanut for looking at the photo of the decomposed dog/fox. MojoPeanut looked a the photo on a computer before we met up this evening and said it looks like a fox, I've seen the photo and it has got the look of a fox. I'll try and ring the caller tomorrow for an update on what has happened to it and if reported to the DW etc. I do not live too far from where it was found and know exactly where it is.

Met up with helpers tonight and we did a lot of leaflet posting on the estate surrounding the Pingwood Pub. Also called into the Pub and they did have a poster up but have refreshed it now with a new updated one.

Liz the lady in the pub knew you and Ben and said to pass on they were thinking of you.

The estate we postered tonight comes out near Shevington's Lane not too far from Liz's house. A couple of people said they had seen him but not too sure it was him, one lady is going to contact the relative who she said seen him in Roughwood and said she would ring Liz. This area seems well out of the area where we have been looking and had sightings of him.

Everyone we spoke to was really helpful and some already knew of him.

THANK YOU to everyone who turned out tonight, you did a top job and there are a lot more people know Ben is missing. We just need some more positive sightings. x

2012-05-14 22:55 BaileyP

Hi. Sorry have only just logged on as I've had a very busy day with one of my collies at the vets'. Very positive news about a sighting on Saturday. I'm sure a very early stakeout will give the best chance of seeing him Liz.

Well done everyone - you are all stars. I 'll phone the Echo tomorrow to put the advert in again for two weeks.

Xxxx

2012-05-14 22:46 liz

He could be. Let's hope now, that more people know, they will manage to get him and keep hold of him and read his collar with my address details and his name. hHe number is wrong as you know on his collar, but hopefully they will have a flyer or poster.

2012-05-14 22:41 J MO

That's good news Liz. He must be going along that track between the ditch and the railway opposite Mill Dam Park x

2012-05-14 22:24 liz

Sorry, she said he was very golden with a lassie nose and pretty face.

2012-05-14 22:22 liz

Jenny I meant, sorry, and thanks to you and Gill and Jan and anyone I haven't mentioned, for postering.

2012-05-14 22:20 liz

I will be going to bed soon, but have to eat something first, but there is achance Ben made his way back this direction, hence school kids seeing him Thursday outside playground of Ravenscroft School walking very slowly. Just like you and Jan said, he could've done a semi circle back, or two corners of the triangle. I will be setting alarm for 5 and going for a drive round again.

2012-05-14 22:15 liz

Finshed work at 9 and drove round Bickerstaffe.
Got a call from hairdresser who lives near Railway staion and she says she saw Ben at 8:50 on Saturday morning. She said she thought it was unusual to see a pretty dog like that on his own and was just standing there looking lost and trance like. She noticed he was standing across from Mill Dam Park, near the railway arches, looking across the road. It can't be the big white one, as he doesn't cross the road. She didn't know he was lost and carried on. When she got to Bickerstaffe, to do this lady's hair, she saw his photo and knew it was him.

2012-05-14 19:35 J MO

Jan has sent me the photo of the dog found at Speke and it defo isn't Ben. It was a dark brindle colour.

Been out after work and have postered the Ormskirk side of Bickerstaffe and a large part of the Rainford side of bickerstaffe. Marie, I have postered all of Sidings Lane but will go back and do a bit further into the Nature Reserve.

Spoke to Liz on her way to work. She is going straight to bed after work and is going to get up at Dawn and go to Bickerstaffe then for the morning. Hopefully if Ben is in the Ormskirk Advertiser on Thursday this will bring some more sightings. This does seem to be his pattern, he is spotted for a couple of days and then lies low for a few days.

Last edited: 2012-05-14 19:37:19 by J MO

2012-05-14 17:31 janni0706

Thank you Jayne x

2012-05-14 17:19 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Janni saw your posting on the dog and have replied to it...defo not that dog either.

2012-05-14 17:17 kelsley79

38912 is Bens dog id x

2012-05-14 17:09 janni0706

Could the dog found be this little one 38912 as only five miles from the airport.

2012-05-14 17:07 Marie

I really hope you find Ben, am watching this page all the time. I have my horse stabled nr Rainford bypass, so will keep an eye out. Have you tried the Sidings Lane Nature reserve just off the bypass? This area is lots of farmland alongside the railway, heading over in direction of Coach Rd and Bickerstaffe and Moss Farm where I think you've been? The St.Helens council rangers are about round there, plus fishermen at the pond. Its a popular place for dog walkers so may be an idea to poster down there? Good luck.

2012-05-14 17:04 jess1985

hi just wanted to say hope ben is found safe and well and im thinking of you.x

2012-05-14 16:53 ML

Still thinking of you Liz and hoping u find ur baby soon. Is there any one nearby this area that could have a look down the named road? Maybe even the dog warden??
Like everyone has said, Im sure Ben would not have travelled that distance. xx

2012-05-14 16:52 janni0706

Has someone been called to collect the poor dog, someone must be missing him. I am assuming as others have said it is a distance it may not be Ben and the lack of collar.

2012-05-14 16:46 MojoPeanut

Thanks for updating Jayne. I think it is too far for Ben to travel. He would have to cross a very busy motorway and also a very busy A road to get to the beach. Too far in my opinion. If anything this boy has been washed up on shore :( I walk my dog around this area and the beach is only 8-10ft wide and very shingly xx

2012-05-14 16:43 Loo

Oh I so hope it's not Ben, I'm keeping everything crossed for you x x x

2012-05-14 16:37 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Photo received and sent onto Majorjet and Jackalee...no sign of a collar...my gut reaction is its not Ben...will see what the others think...sorry Liz...just missed a call from you as on the other line.

2012-05-14 16:23 Unknown

Liz Stay positive and please keep strong.

2012-05-14 16:19 jobadger

Liz - this couldn't possibly be Ben - it's right south of where you are and even further away from where the gorgeous boy's been seen. Stay calm and positive - you're doing brilliantly - he's still around - just having trouble finding you. Take care.xx

Last edited: 2012-05-14 16:20:18 by jobadger

2012-05-14 16:13 AkitaTaz

Hang in there Liz, as Jayne has said this is a long way away considering Ben hasn't been going too far from home xx

2012-05-14 16:12 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Liz he has just called me and is going to get his son to text or email the photo to me...it does seem very far away as he described it as being found by John Lennon airport on the sea shore...a good 12 miles away so I doubt it is Ben.

2012-05-14 15:47 liz

I'e just had a call from a man who took a photo of a dog matching Ben, dead down a lane called Dungeon Lane, near Liverpool Airport. Near Yewtree Cottage. Said he was covered in rubble and mud with a slab next to him. I can't bear to see the photo, but he didn't notice a collar. I asked him to send photo to Jayne or speak to Jayne and Jan. If the body can be taken to the vets and checked for the chip.

2012-05-14 15:27 smileyt

Just back from Manchester Dogs' Home. He wasn't there. Sorry, Liz.
Absolutely heartbreaking to see all those dogs. I was in tears.
Ben's poster was already up with all the other doglost.co.uk posters.

2012-05-14 14:59 J MO

Just spoken to Network Rail and they have confirmed that there have been no dogs reported on or near in railway line in Kirkby or Bickerstaffe

2012-05-14 14:01 AkitaTaz

If anyone is going out later would it be possible to get some clothing etc off Liz and leave it at the farm to see if he returns. I understand that he may move on but he has stayed close by for two weeks so there may be a chance that he is still in the area and just needs a scent to remain there x Isn't it worth a shot?

2012-05-14 13:51 J MO

Thank Nik

2012-05-14 13:38 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Details updated to cover possible sightings and asking people to CHECK OUTBUILDINGS.

Various size UPDATED posters done earlier today and emailed to Liz and helpers, if anyone else wants them please let us know and they can be emailed to you.

The postering is going to be done widening the areas, I will be meeting up with helpers tonight to start postering and searcing. x

2012-05-14 13:12 Caroline28

Liz - the dog Wardens telephone number for that area is: 01695 577177
They work closely with Leigh Cats and Dogs Home and can be contacted on 01942 671215 or out of hours 07786 118088

2012-05-14 13:05 J MO

Just been on google earth looking at the areas where Ben has been sighted. The two sightings on the Bicketstaffe Border are in Stopgate Lane and Sinacre Lane. From Walkden Farm he could have headed to Carnholes wood which is accessable from Coach Road or accross the road passed Moss Farm in all the farms leading to the M58 or to Bicketstaffe Woods.

Jan, Liz and I have posted a lot of these farms. I will poster the Ormskirk side of Bicketstaffe and the Rainford side to the Rainford bypass. Hopefully someone will see the posters b4 they see Ben and know that he is missing

2012-05-14 12:29 Unknown

I think Ben will be in the Ormskirk & Skelmersdale Advertiser this week.

2012-05-14 12:20 jobadger

Have emailed Ben's poster to West Lancs Microlight School. Has anyone done the vet's in the area he's in now? x

Last edited: 2012-05-14 12:21:21 by jobadger

2012-05-14 09:32 liz

J MO, the woman never got back to me. The email to Phil, the warden, bounced, so I don't know what it should be.

I know you & Deb are right about him going towards Ormskirk, Rainford area.

Smiley T he has got a dear face and thankyou.


All these wonderful people helping me. I am about to feed myself and my mum. M mum isn't so good today and is going home to be near her own things. She's been wonderful and I told her that I would be crying constantly whether she was here or not.

I hope Ben is okay. He can still get about and is sprightly and excitable like a spring lamb, despite his progressive parkinsons. I know he won't have given up, he will be running round somewhere.

The woman who saw him darting around the road, on 23rd April, the day ofter his disappearance, is how he wanders on the park. He wanders up and down excitedly sniffing the ground. You know how a dog reflects your personality, and visa versa. Well he is like me.

I hope my excitable boy comes home soon.
Thankyou xxx

2012-05-14 00:13 smileyt

OK will do. Off to bed now.

2012-05-13 23:53 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

SmileyT that would be fab. Ben's details and poster were emailed to MDH and Cheshire Dog's Home but always best to check kennels and take a poster. Thanks again for your offer greatly appreciated. X

2012-05-13 23:47 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Internet still not sorted. :(

Spoke to Nadia, BayleyP and MojoPeanut today and in touch with other helpers throughout the day via texts.
Great to speak to you.

Thanks Nadia and MojoPeanut for the updates and M J0 for the continued support. :)

Had a long chat with Liz today who is a lot more positive, just what we all like to see. Keep up the brilliant work Liz and get plenty of rest before going to work. We are all rooting for Ben to be home soon.

Will catch up with Team Ben tomorrow and continue to look for Ben and poster the areas. XXX

2012-05-13 23:36 smileyt

I know this is a long shot (a very long shot) but I live in Manchester and am not working tomorrow. Would it be helpful if I went to check Manchester Dogs' Home? I should have enough printer ink to print a poster to take with me. I remember reading further down the page that sometimes dogs from the Liverpool/Lancs border are taken to MDH. I'll check this page tomorrow morning to see if you want me to do that. Oh I do hope you find him, he has such a dear face. xxxx

2012-05-13 22:34 MojoPeanut

I got a feeling I just reported J Mo's comment by accident!! Sorry dog lost. I am using an iPad and they are very temperamental!

2012-05-13 22:32 MojoPeanut

No worries J Mo. If we get enough people to help we may be able to head out that way too to poster xx

2012-05-13 22:27 J MO

Thanks Mojopeanut, I will carry on postering and leaflet dropping the Ormskirk side of Bickerstaffe then will start the Rainford side in case he is heading that way so people are aware of Ben b4 they see him x

2012-05-13 22:12 MojoPeanut

Should have said we will be out from 6pm xx

2012-05-13 22:09 MojoPeanut

Team Ben will be postering and leafletting around the pingwood tomorrow. Anybody else wishing to join us please let me know. The more people who help, the more area we can cover xx

2012-05-13 21:27 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Thanks team Ben....I know how much you are all doing for Liz and Ben....You are all unsung heros...um..heroines...keep up the good work...for Ben.

2012-05-13 20:59 jobadger

Watch this page very regularly - the boy has got to be in the blue soon. Did anyone manage to get in touch with West Lancs microlight? xx

Last edited: 2012-05-13 21:00:26 by jobadger

2012-05-13 20:45 J MO

Liz, we went all over that area with posters on Friday which is good. We need to leaflet drop and poster the Ormskirk and Rainford side of Bickerstaffe so we can make people aware of Ben before they see him. Did the lady who thought she saw him yesterday ring you back?

Nil, do you know if the Ormskirk Advertiser put Ben's details in the paper?

Liz, if you don't hear from Phil West Lancs Dog Warden please chase him. He is usually helpful.

2012-05-13 19:37 liz

Went out at 4 and got as far as the fishing lake and parked up to look out at the fields, then got a call from my mum to say smoeone had seen a woman in Melling, holding a lost dog and it was very scared. The woman said it as too much of a coincidence and looked like Ben. It turned out to be a yorkie, nothing ike Ben who is twice it's size. Went back and sat at the farm, walked up to the bushes,drove round to Moss side Farm and past the riding school down the mucky track trying to steer clear of pot holes and not get stuck. Sat there for half an hour then moved to Barrow Nook Lane. Marlene called me to call into a house where a woman had seen Ben. Went to the house and she had seen him Monday 23rd at 7.30pm running along the road and into the road. She assumed he was from nearby and did think about stopping but was in a hurry. He was same colouring as Ben. He was heading from Kirkby to Bickerstaffe and it was outside the houses near the fishing pond, before the farm he was seen at a week later. So he was definitely in that area for the first week.

2012-05-13 19:14 NADIA

hi all the page has been fab today and everyon is sticking together and have been out and about ....there now talking about another poster day in some other areas xxxx https://www.facebook.com/groups/177058762416397/189131997875740/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#!/groups/177058762416397/189131997875740/?notif_t=group_comment_reply

2012-05-13 18:44 Unknown

It would appear from Facebook that some helpers have written to Paul O'Grady again asking for help.

2012-05-13 18:27 J MO

Been out amnd about again this afternoon around Mill Dam Park, The Pear Tree, Ravenscroft School, Pingwood and Bickerstaffe putting new posters up and replacing wet ones. No sign of Ben though :-(

Almost did an emergency stop when I saw something ginger in the field by the Pear Tree...it turned out to be a trafic cone!

Jan, I have amended Ben's poster to include all of the sightings so I can use the same one wherever I poster. I will email it to you x

Unable to find the old Mill Farm in the middle of the Estate.

Think we need to leaflet drop Pingwood Lane/Road and the sheltered accommodation bungalows at the back of the Ravenscroft School. All the gardens are open and he could easily be hiding there.

Last edited: 2012-05-13 18:29:31 by J MO

2012-05-13 17:31 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Posting from my phone.

My Internet is down, have not been able to get on all day, been through everything with Virgin and no luck. :( Could not of happened at worst time.

Have been in touch with Deb (helper on the ground who knows Ben via texts.

Also texting with J M0 and other helpers throughout the day
.
FANTASTIC work still going on on the ground with all the helpers. TEAM BEN keep it up, will meet up with you soon and great to have your help last night.

Mossey thanks for the update, top job bringing the camera great to see one in action. :) x

2012-05-13 15:47 Mossey

Gill has been to rspca Halewood, Ben is not there, there was reports of a dog found in widnes, but it was a mastif cross deffo not collie cross !! will update when we have more info

2012-05-13 15:23 liz

Thankyou for your lovely words.

2012-05-13 12:02 Unknown

I have read these posts every day since Ben went missing and my thoughts are with you Liz and Ben every day.

I been through an awful lot these last four months but you still have the sightings coming in so please stay positive (and off the drink) Ben is out there you have be strong (easier said than done I know) but you still have that hope of finding Ben.

There are so many people on here willing Ben home and searching for him.

I live in West Sussex to far away to help but sending prayers and hugs to you.

Stay Strong Please Liz

BEN HURRY HOME DARLING & STAY SAFE UNTIL YOU ARE FOUND XXXX

2012-05-13 11:33 hayley

Sending lots of love, thanks and positivity to TEAM BEN, who are all angels. Keep up the good work ladies, you deserve medals. xxxx

2012-05-13 11:27 J MO

I listened to the message on Liz's answerphone regarding the sighting yesterday. The message said that her Mum had driven from Ormskirk through Bickerstaffe and had seen a dog like Ben outside Mill Farm Kirkby. We assumed that this was Mill Dam Park because this is also known as Mill Farm.

However, Marlene has told me that there used to be a Mill Farm in Shevington Lane, Kirkby and whilst new houses have been built around it but the farmhouse remains. Ebony Way is off Shevington Lane where there was a possible sighting on Thursday by Ravenscroft School.

2012-05-13 09:18 AkitaTaz

BaileyP thanks for taking the time to chat with Liz. Regarding Ben, there have been sightings in the past week so he is still out there Liz we just need that one person to see him and manage to keep him until you arrive. Try to get yourself together and stay strong. People arent giving up on finding Ben x

2012-05-13 08:57 BaileyP

Ive just had a long chat with Liz. I've suggested that she stops posting online unless it is a factual comment on here re search. I've also suggested that she takes a day out today to sleep, eat and charge her batteries up for the week. Liz's mum is with her today. Xxx

2012-05-13 08:44 LizzyC

Liz, drink and grief are a bad combination, drink will make things worse so please try to stay off it. If you believe in God just a little bit, ask Him to help you and Ben. Ben would not want you to be feeling so bad, remember that. Thinking of you xxx

2012-05-13 08:19 liz

I just want my old fella home. Where is he? It's the 3rd week now, since he disappeared. He needs love and warmth and I am turning everyone against me. I know I am being unreasoanable and staying up late drinking isn't helping. I don't know where to start. I feel sick.

2012-05-13 08:01 liz

Please, I so miss him. xxxx

2012-05-13 07:58 liz

Jayne lots of things said on FB. I am panicking so much. It's week 3. I feel sick. Slept on sofa and Ben is just on my mind again. I just want him home but don't know where to start.

2012-05-13 06:33 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Morning Li...sorry missed your messages last night as in bed. Will sort out bens page soon...notice a lot of removed comments...this is because it mentions names copied from your facebook pages.
You really must as discussed steer away from your facebook page at this time and concentrate on getting some rest.

2012-05-13 03:54 janni0706

I hope that with all the support Liz is getting that Ben will soon be safely home. If anyone is going out looking for Ben please could you keep us informed on here. A lot of people are worried not only about Ben but about Liz as it is a stressful time for her. Liz you are in my thoughts, a lot of people are here to support you and I wish I could be there for you.

2012-05-13 01:10 Mossey

Tonight mill farm, lecky side, all along the alt adjacent to headbolt lane, heathfield, fallowfield and surrounding areas were searched, then we went to bickerstaffe and all the time was using thermal imaging camera, got home late tired and upset, no sightings.

2012-05-13 00:17 jobadger

West Lancashire Microlight School - 0151 929 3319
Perhaps they might be able to help?

2012-05-13 00:06 Lynn

Liz is someone with you tonight? try and get some rest! xxxx

2012-05-12 23:46 liz

I need my baby boy back. I don't think I can recover from this. Please please please, come home Ben.

2012-05-12 23:27 Lynn

Liz , this is all so heart breaking, and you are always in my thoughts,you are doing so well to find your boy!!! to all of the helpers, you are all doing such a fantastic job, well done!! just how everyone has pulled tgether is amazing! Liz I so hope for good news for you soon! but please also look after YOU! I know your pain is unbearable, but please don't make yourself ill, you need to be strong for Ben,I'm not religous , but I will keep praying that you get your boy back soon! I want all dogs to be reunited,!!!!......... but this one has really touched my heart!! ........Liz lots Of HUGS!! XX

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2012-05-12 23:10 jinny

what about asking the echo and other local papers to put an apeal out for any of there readers who have a light airplane or microlight to have a look at all the possible sighting places ,or maybe there is a liverpool light airplane group on the webm might be worth a look , sorry for the spelling mistakes im not a very good speller, Liz you are doing great as are the amazing people who are helping you , but you must take a break, and look after yourself ,my thoughts are with you always xxxx

2012-05-12 23:09 liz

Left Jan near Mill Bank/Dam before 9. I just had to get home. I work evenings and needed to be home for a change. I also needed my mum. I was also at work this morning. My mum has listened to me cry all night. I told her life isn't the same now. Ben is my little darling and this house is so empty. We've never been apart longer than 2 weeks, when he's been in kennels. It's been 3 weeks now. Ben was with me when I got mugged once, he was with me when we got a free lift home in police van from Ormskirk. Fell aleep and then woke up and thought we were being kidnapped and called Mersey Police. Ben was looking at me and I was looking at him. Big search on kidnap going on, and had to apologise to police. Call Centre staff were laughing so much. I was very red faced.

We got a taxi to Lakes once just to look out the window together. Cost £200 of my then husband's money. During the divorce. We even danced round the pole in the Pingwood together once. He's wherever I go.

2012-05-12 21:26 DogLostMillypod (Chris) - Administrative Volunteer

over 1000 now come on Ben home time.x

2012-05-12 21:16 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Well done ladies...and only 3 tweeters away from 1,000...our magical number....watch this space...

2012-05-12 20:45 janni0706

Helen Moss has managed to get a digital imaging thermal camera for the night and is on her way with Gill Allward. Good luck ladies and the rest who are already out searching. x

2012-05-12 20:21 Alfies mum

i live to far away to help but check bens page all the time. Liz you are doing a fantastic job to find ben, but you need a night off, i know thats easy for me to say when you love him so much and just want to be out there looking for him. Hes a beautiful boy, good luck to all of you xx

2012-05-12 20:16 AkitaTaz

Good luck tonight with the search Liz. I really do believe that Ben is so close but just hiding out unable to find his way home. Keep your chin up you are doing a great job xx

2012-05-12 19:38 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Thanks for the tweets team Ben....21 to go to the magic 1,000....

2012-05-12 19:17 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Well done team....I am rooting for you and Ben...

2012-05-12 18:57 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

J MO is going to Liz's now and I will meet them there. x

2012-05-12 18:53 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz is waiting for the daughter to get her mum's hairdressers number who said she seen him. x

2012-05-12 18:48 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

We know what you mean. I will come up if you want to have a look round, nice clear night tonight like last night. x

2012-05-12 18:44 liz

Sorry am abbreviating as though I am at work

2012-05-12 18:41 liz

Just got VM but texted mobile so wtg reply with hairdressers nbr from Kirkby.

2012-05-12 18:37 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Just been speaking to Liz and we need to establish exactly where the sightings is as the caller said Kirkby and Liz seems to think it is MILL DAM POND area, but there are a couple of farms where we went to yesterday, one was MILL FARM.

Liz is going to ring the caller back.

Deb who lives in the area will know exactly where the farm is we went to last night. x

2012-05-12 18:30 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

BRILLIANT news, we were at Mill Farm yesterday and last night with helper Deb who lives in the area. This is just what we need to know he is still in the area.

Hayley he is most probably in the fields where you cannot always see properly when driving due to the hedges.

Liz, keep the SCENTING going. xxx

2012-05-12 18:30 foggy

Liz where is Mill Farm is this still in Bickerstaffe x

2012-05-12 18:15 liz

Yes HAYLEY and it's all down to the lovely volunteers on here. I am just waiting for that call. x

2012-05-12 18:12 hayley

How I hope and pray that the phone call was a true sighting! It amazes me too Julie that no one seems to be able to get him, I would be out of my car like a shot, gammy leg and all, trying to bring him home. At least more people are becoming more and more aware, fingers crossed for more calls. x

2012-05-12 18:09 liz

I am unsure if it's the same dog that looks like him who has been seen before x

2012-05-12 18:08 Julie B

So if it was today then he is still in the same area. I just dont understand why people are not getting hold of him when they see him. Maybe going out at first daylight is the right way to go then. I think as the weather is nicer he will certainly be out wandering a bit more - which is a good thing as he will hopefully be sighted more and then home he comes. As I said I am right down on the South Coast so have no idea of the area you are in - but how far apart is Mill Farm from the other farm where you were with Jan last night ? xx

2012-05-12 18:04 liz

When I was pulling my sofas apart earlier, they were so full of dog hairs, but I can't bring myself to hoover them up.

2012-05-12 17:57 liz

Yes it was the original place we searched. I just don't know, he may keep working his way back & forth.

2012-05-12 17:56 liz

Thankyou Julie and Hayley and Jayne. I am grateful to the hard work of volunteers working full time and travelling and putting posters up and flyers and not being home til late. They've done all the hard work, not me.

2012-05-12 17:55 Julie B

When was the sighting at Mill Farm Liz - today ?? Is this the area which you have been searching ? xx

2012-05-12 17:51 Julie B

Liz, I am far away down on the South Coast so unable to be actively involved in the search for Ben. I have been following his story from the start and I really do feel your pain. You have been working so hard to find him as well as having to hold down a job and everything else. I feel confident that you are on the right path to finding Ben, but you also need to take some time out for you as you are completely exhausted. A lot of other good people are up there searching for Ben with you - especially in the evenings, so maybe you could take an evening off, relax (Although I know will be hard) and get a good sleep and maybe go out for a wander around that area about 5am for a couple of hours. The weather is a little warmer and drier (thank god) and Ben could come out in the daylight very early before people are normally up and about while it is quiet. Not a moment goes by that I am not thinking of Ben and I feel sure that it will not be too much longer before he is back home with you where he belongs. Keep strong Liz - it will all be okay. xxx

2012-05-12 17:51 liz

Also Fionap28, that is horrible to get threats. I had a gang of youths taunting me last weekend and calling Ben's name.

I just had a call saying someone definitely saw Ben at Mill Farm at 9am. This lady is from Bickerstaffe and her hairdresser was driving past.Her husband went out again and looked for an hour. I just don't know what to think.

2012-05-12 17:48 hayley

So many people with hearts of gold, it restores my faith in humanity. xxx

2012-05-12 17:46 BaileyP

Re donations - I will donate ( thanks Hayley for info) and would love to help to get Phebe and Wispa back when there is another sighting!!

Keep strong Liz! Get some of your mum's food in you and perhaps have a night off and a really good sleep. Speak tomorrow!!! Xxx

2012-05-12 17:39 BaileyP

Hi folks. I put the advert in the paper and I don't want anything back for doing it! I live so far away that I wanted to do something constructive to help find Ben. I am going to put it in again next weekend for two weeks. The lovely lady at The Echo said she'd give me a small discount if we needed it again. I just wish that there was more that I could do. Xxxx

2012-05-12 17:24 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Hello you lovely people helping in the search for Ben...can you retweet...lol I dont know how to do it...but the 1,000 th tweet has always been very successful for us in the past...dont know why...but its amazing how many times it has worked.and we are not far off that figure....only 32 away from the magic 1,000 figure....okay I am counting down now...so those of you watching daily from a distance who can tweet...help us please.

2012-05-12 17:13 hayley

Lovely to see you on here Liz, never give up darling, we are all behind you, if not in person in spirit, sending you and Ben lots of love and positive thoughts to keep you both strong. xxx

2012-05-12 17:09 liz

J Mo, Phil the warden's email came back saying failure notice. Although I saw a van going towards Sinecar Road, with Dog Unit on the side, at 9pm as I was going home to pick up Jan. Not heard back from Air Police.

2012-05-12 17:01 liz

Thankyou Fionap28. So sorry about Merlin. I can relate so much to your grief. It's the worst pain ever.

I just know it was Ben at the farm last week. I am just worried about where he is now. He must be frightened and alone.

I am so snappy at everyone, even the people who are helping me, and for this I apologise. Also, at work, I can't understand how everyone expects me to be my cheerful self. How can I be? My world has fallen apart.

Today, I came home around 2 because I'm walking to work now to save fuel. It's only 40 min walk each way & the weather was great. I went the Pingwood way there and back, with Ben's lead in case I saw him. I got home and spent 2 hours tearing the house apart trying to locate my phone. I had a crying fit again and rang my mum asking why life was being so difficult right now. It wouldn't matter if Ben was here, but everything is going wrong. I did eventually find it, upstairs, where I left it, and calmed down.

Bridget and a few others have kindly texted me. I have two messages from the Echo today, one saying they saw Ben at Mill Farm, at 9am and another saying they saw him in their garden at Culdene Close, Crocky Park, two days ago. I don't know what to think. They didn't get hold of him to check so I haven't replied. The Crocky man didn't leave his number anyway.

At work, I gave out some of the flyers Jan spent hours amending in my house last night. Some of my colleagues live near Bickerstaffe. I also gave them to local workmen doing the drains on my walk. Got smelly sewerage on my good shoes but I didn't care.

My mum is on her way as my ex boyf was going to come and keep me company, but I think he's relieved as I'm just a crying banshee right now, and mum knows best. She's made a casserole and bringing more tissues.

I am overwhelmed by people's kindness and sorry to Deb and Gill. Without you and Jenny and Jan, Andrea, Marlene, Phebe & Wispa, and everyone else, we wouldn't be any further.

I had to temporarily close mine and Ben's FB profiles. It hurts too much to see us happy together, and his own profile.

Liz
x

Last edited: 2012-05-12 17:04:30 by liz

2012-05-12 16:39 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks hayley. :)

Email address' can be picked up from registered details on DL. Claire and Trish I have sent you an email. Thanks for your support. xxx

2012-05-12 16:28 hayley

Anyone wishing to donate can you send payments to Jan - (majorjet- jan area co-ordinator), if you add your email address to your wish to donate I am sure Jan will get back to you when she find a minute in her busy schedule to send you her details. xxxx Thank you Trish at K9 dreams for your interest in donating, and it goes without saying big love and thanks to the many volunteers who have done so much in the ongoing search for Ben. The world is a far better place with people like you in it!.... From a huge doglost fan and loving mammy to a furbaby (Hayley) xxx

2012-05-12 16:16 Trish at K9 Dreams

I am not on the Facebook page, but would like to make a donation. Could someone let me know how I go about doing it. Thanks xx

2012-05-12 15:53 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks J MO I maybe following you soon. :) x

2012-05-12 15:44 J MO

Jan, thanks for your post on the facebook page. Following more unpleasant comments this morning I have now left the group facebook page but will continue to post on Doglost.

2012-05-12 15:40 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Claire and Jasper, thank you for posting. So many people have wanted to help and helping by donating has been requested by Ben's group page. We all give our time voluntary and do not ask for anything, our reward is seeing dog's back home with their family and go into the BLUE on DogLost.

The main things that would be nice for donations to go towards are the big advert with a coloured photo which a helper put in the papers, this will of cost a lot and Phebe has travelled a good way with Wispa. It is totally up to whoever donates what they want to help out with. x

2012-05-12 15:07 Claire and Jasper

Hi Jan - I must be dim as I can't tell how to PM you. Can you PM me the details as I'd like to make a small donation. This is a great idea - the local (and not so local) volunteers have done a fab job helping Liz. Thanks x

2012-05-12 14:57 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Great Chilli's family are helping in the search for Ben. x

2012-05-12 14:54 J MO

We have a Jack Russell missing from Bickerstaffe called Chilli. I met Chilli's owner yesterday and her kids are out quadbiking around the fields checking ditches for Chilli so are looking out for Ben as well.

2012-05-12 13:44 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Hayley greatly appreciated. The group have been very supportive. x

2012-05-12 13:36 hayley

Thank you for update Jan, I am checking on here and facebook constantly, awaiting news and feeling so helpless and I am so far away. Can we have a bank account, justgiving or paypal account no. to pay funds into to help with fuel costs for helpers and for Phebe if she needs to come back. I am sure there are many of us that can spare a few pounds to help out in a way of thanking all the searchers who have dedicated their time, money and energy in the search for Ben. My thoughts and thanks are with you all. Always on my mind Ben xxxx

2012-05-12 13:06 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

I've just posted this UPDATE on Ben's facebook group:

Due to all the unsettlement with the postings on this group we are concentrating on the DogLost page. We have not got time to get involved and our main concern is finding BEN.

Myself and J MO have been involved with helpers on the ground and they have been FANTASTIC and STILL ARE. Once again cannot THANK YOU ALL enough you know who you are. I was in touch with some helpers yesterday.

Deb who lives in the area and knows it more than anyone met up with me yesterday early evening when she came home from work and drove us around until it was time to meet up with Liz when she got home from her shift.

Gill has been another main helper who is doing a lot and has to travel a good way to the area. THANKS a MILLION girls you are STARS.

Unfortunately the weather has not been on our side and also for Phebe and Wispa who did a sterling job in directing us to the area which had not been getting checked. Maybe if it had Ben would have been home by now.

The last sightings of Ben have been over the BANK HOLIDAY weekend and we need more recent ones so we know exactly where to look out for him and ideally sit off early hours. Most of what is being advised on here has already been covered and advised.

The landowner’s kindly allowed us to sit off last night but we have to be careful not to outstay our welcome. We could not move around too easily as it kicked Heidi the farm dog off and don’t think the owner’s would be too happy to keep getting disturbed too much.

I’ve discussed with Liz about asking owners if Ben’s bed or one of his blankets could be left in the open Barn near where Heidi’s food is kept. If we know for certain Ben is still in the area visiting the farm a trap can be discussed. There was no way one could be left in Mill Dam Pond it was too public and it was not 100% that some of the sightings were Ben.

Now that more people in the area are aware of Ben we will hopefully get MORE RECENT SIGHTNGS of him.

This has been said many times as to how vast and open the area is. Not very good for walking in as a lot of the fields are private farmland and country roads with hedges running around them.

Hope this helps to keep you updated.

Luv to you all the DogLost Team. xxx

2012-05-12 12:20 foggy

JMo and Jayne (Head Office) I have been out searching for Ben and I have just been focussing on Askews Farm, is anyone aware if ditches and hedges along side the road leading from Kirkby to Bickerstaffe have been searched, because when I am driving around Ben could be on the other side of the hedge. If no-one has searched this I will x

2012-05-12 11:38 Lisa123

I don't think anyone could have put that better fionap58. Liz it sounds like you need to try and take a break as you are going to make yourself very poorly. Thinking of you x

2012-05-12 10:01 fionap58

Liz, I know exactly what you are going through right now. I lost a dog years ago and despite lots of advice from the lovely helpers on here and lots of help searching and postering I never found Merlin. 3 months into the search I was almost at the point of a nervous breakdown. I was getting hoax calls that sent me mad and people were badgering me (not on this site) not to give up which put so much more pressure on me. I was getting threats that he would be shot which raised a tide of unpleasant comments (also not on this site) I couldn't work, sleep or eat and every moment of my day was filled with thoughts of him and the terrible guilt I felt due to the circumstances he went missing in. I felt very much like you that I had to pull back and give myself a break and after 3 months stopped looking proactively altogether as I was mentally and physically quite unstable.

This may sound hard and it's really not meant to be as I hope and pray you will get your baby back BUT if Ben is still alive he will turn up somewhere whether you go out looking for him or not,whether or not your every waking moment is filled with thoughts of him, the guilt, the stress, the worry, the tears, he will stroll in somehwere or someone will trap him in a barn or a garden. Give yourself a break lovey, try and think calm thoughts and get your life back to as normal as it can be. I'm not saying forget him or give up, but knowing how you feel I almost needed someone to say it's OK, what will be will be, now rest and pull back a bit. Much love and positive thoughts, Fi

2012-05-12 08:49 foggy

Thinking of you Liz xx

2012-05-12 08:38 smileyt

Oh Liz. My heart goes out to you. You can only do what you can do and you have done as much and more than you humanly can. Could you leave your phone with your Mum or a friend? That way if someone rings, they can answer it for you and take details? I also think your employer's attitude is woeful. Sending you my best wishes and lots of love through the ether.

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2012-05-12 06:01 liz

We stayed at farm unti 11:15pm. I was faling asleep in the car. I've had nothing to eat since 2pm yesterday and have to work today at 9. The car was cold, the dog Heidi, was asleep, no outside light came on, there was no sign of Ben and altough everyone is rooting for us, the expectation for me to stay up all night is unrealistic. The surrounding area is massive and it's like finding a needle in a haystack. Jan offered to stay even though she has a long journey home herself. I am up now to get ready for work. I can't afford to keep on driving round. I have a limited weekly budget for fuel and I've gone way over. This wole thing is making me very ill. My mind isn't the same. I am making mistakes at work, I've been told one more and I'm out. On the way home we saw a couple walking the lanes with a dog. I turned round and we stopped. In my tiredness I had accidentily locked the windows & panicked as I couldn't find the button to open them. Jan had to get me to calm down and unlock the doors so we could give the couple a flyer. We drove around again and shone full beam down Coach Rd again & by this stage my mind was playing tricks on me. I kept imagining him in front of the car. I had to come home and it was midnight when Jan left and I went straight to bed without a shower. I am so depressed.
I am not mentally capable to do anymore. I am grateful to everyone, but I can't take the pressure of trying to fit into the expectations of what is required of me. I am stepping back now and hoping someone calls me from all the flyers and posters. I am leaving the mobile at home because it is a sackable offence to use it at work. I keep looking at it at work, and it's only a matter of time before I get caught. Bye for now everyone.

2012-05-12 04:59 Teddys Mum - Area Volunteer, West London

I am praying very hard that Ben shows himself to you on this night vigil. Dawn is the time he will rouse himself and go in search of food. Nothing like scary stories to make the night go by. lol. Keep your chin up. You are doing a fantastic job. Ever nearer to that blue page. x

2012-05-12 04:26 MFHJane

I must have looked at this page a thousand times, on my own! Come on Ben, show yourself and let's get this page BLUE!! Good luck again Liz and everyone else searching, if wishes were lost dogs they'd all be home now!!

2012-05-12 01:46 Rocinante

Liz, I'm siting here thinking of you out there tonight and wish you all the luck in the world. I'm willing Ben to get his arse into gear and get on over to that farm..... xx

2012-05-12 01:24 Lynn

Liz willing Ben to be found , you are in my thoughts,and doing a great job in finding him.............. so hope you find him soon,..........xx

2012-05-12 01:21 BaileyP

You might have a good chnace of seeing him at dawn - can you stay til then? He wil be hungry after a sleep and be on the look out for his breakfast. Good luck (again)x

2012-05-12 01:19 BaileyP

Thinking of you out there in the dark!! I hope that Ben appears - everything crossed for a sighting tonight. Stick it out there for as long as you can as he may pop out when you least expect it.

Speak to you tomorrow Liz! Just off to my lovely warm, snug bed!! (Sorry!!!) xxx

2012-05-12 00:38 BBKM

Come on Ben, time to go home with your Mum. Good luck tonight Liz and Jan, saying lots of prayers xx

2012-05-11 23:26 Shereen

Good luck Liz and Jan,come on Ben come out and see your Mum.XXxFingers crossed for you tonight.Sending positive vibes your way!xXX

2012-05-11 23:13 jobadger

OMG! Everythings crossed here ladies - tho' not for the same reason Liz! :-) Good luck - I so hope he shows. xx

2012-05-11 22:53 smileyt

Oh, good luck tonight! I do hope he shows. I will check in first thing in the morning and hope to see good news!

2012-05-11 22:51 liz

Can't get out the car or will set Heidi off.

2012-05-11 22:49 J MO

And you'll jump if Heidi barks lol. Seriously come on Ben you need to get home now x

2012-05-11 22:47 liz

Had to amend Men's to Ben's . Both laughing now. Shouldn't do under circumstances.

2012-05-11 22:47 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

tOtally agree foggy...hope you ladies have some flasks of tea with you...

2012-05-11 22:45 foggy

Maybe Liz if you got out and had a wee, thats more of your scent there xx

2012-05-11 22:44 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

LOL...sitting with Majorjet in a dark car....who needs scarey stories....she wont forgive me for that...

2012-05-11 22:44 liz

Got a bit overcome with emotion handling Ben's tufts of hair.

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2012-05-11 22:42 liz

Sitting in the dark whilst Jan tells me scarey stories. Doors are locked. Trying not to think of the loo.

2012-05-11 22:29 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Thanks Majorjet...from experience the scents in the hoover bag work...also from experience its a messy job....

2012-05-11 22:27 hayley

Going to bed now and praying that tonight brings news of the safe return of Ben. Never out of my thoughts Ben, the country loves you. xxxx

2012-05-11 22:14 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Updating from my phone: Been in the area since the morning. I am with Liz now sitting off at the farm where a dog has been spotted 3 times. While Liz was in work I emptied the hoover contents into a bag and they have now been spread in area next to where Heidi (farm dog) is in a pen. It is very dark. Waiting game to see if Ben surfaces. XXX

2012-05-11 21:32 NickyJ

Come on Ben, we need you to go back and visit that farm near Bickerstaffe tonight. x

2012-05-11 20:02 DogLostJulie - Area Co-ordinator - Surrey & South London

Facebook comments are to be totally ignored. Your love for Ben shines through and you are doing all you can to find him. Unfortunately some people have very shallow lives and it is totally wrong to be so unkind. Good always overcome bad things and nasty people I think we all just have to 'rise above these idiots'. I am in East Sussex and following all the news several times a day - keep faith there are so many good people helping and behind you willing Ben home. God thought dogs were so special he gave them his name backwards which I think says it all - they are truly special. Julie x

2012-05-11 18:46 hayley

Brilliant idea Wensmum. Surely somebody can help out with a thermal camera. Have all the local newspapers been any help at all? I'm always checking to see if he is home yet, my thoughts are with you all that are searching for him, only wish I could help but I am up in Durham. Keep Strong Liz, if love could bring him home he'd be back by now, we are all hopeful and thinking positively for you. xxxx

2012-05-11 18:38 jobadger

Liz - I'm devastated to read about your problems with FB. You - and everyone else - is doing a fabulous job - It's true - there's no magic fairy to pay the bills - Stay postive - stay focussed - must check this page 20 times a day in the hope of the gorgeous boy being home. Stay strong - we're all with you 1600%. xx

2012-05-11 18:15 wensmum

If he is active at night - any chance of getting hold of a thermal imaging camera - maybe from local wildlife/badger/bat group? Or local tv? Or if all else fails - gun club with night sights? Using that, he wouldn't be aware he was being watched, you could see from a distance, and make sure you are able to approach him the way you need to

2012-05-11 16:40 J MO

Been out all day with Liz and Jan. Phebe was out this morning with Wispa but becaise of the windy conditions Wispa could not pick up any further scents.

We have heavily postered Bickerstaffe and leaflet dropped Sinacre Lane, Coach Lane, Moss Lane, Barrow Nook Lane and a majority of the surrounding farms.

New poster detailing sighting in Bickerstaffe has been emailed to West Lancs Dog Warden and we have contacted the Merseyside Aviation Police.

Jan has kindly agreed to go out later with Liz.

I have also driven around Ebony Way, Ambleside Road, Mill Dam Park and the Pear Tree in case Ben is retracing his own scent.

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2012-05-11 15:07 AkitaTaz

Liz have there been any positive sightings of Ben near the farm Wed/Thur night? Whith everything that went on last night/this morning I'm not sure. It would be great if there has as it means he is staying in the area. x

2012-05-11 15:02 Claire and Jasper

Hi Liz, just wanted to say well done for staying focused. As you say, you are concentrating on finding Ben and no-one can doubt your commitment to your boy. I'm in the South East (East Sussex) so I can't help with the search although I did find myself looking out for him yesterday on my walk round here, as I'm so obsessed with him LOL!). Sending you a hug and letting you know we're all thinking about you and wishing him home xxx

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2012-05-11 14:59 foggy

Just read what has happened on Facebook. I was out again this morning with my hubb he took his binoculars to look across the fields, we drove very slow down coach road because of pot holes. I saw you last night Liz Im Amanda and I was with my friends, we searched a while last night. Although I cannot make it tonight, I will get there at the weekend. Stay strong Liz and we are all here for Ben thinking of you, Manda x

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2012-05-11 14:46 liz

Thank you, it's all blown up out of proportion. I reacted badly but it was due to tiredness and grief. Speaking to Jayne and my mum and others put me back on track. Phebe has gone home although she took Wispa first back to fields & a farmer took them to a shed to check if he was sheltering there.
I am concentrating on finding Ben as we all are.
Been out with Jenny & Jan to every farm around Bickerstaffe, and postering and posting flyers. Spoke with another game keeper, a cyclist, post man and other dog walkers. Walked down Coach Road, which is inaccessible by car. Now we are back at mine and Jeny has emailed Merseyside Aviation Police & West Lancs Dog Warden. I have to leave for work at 3.30 and they are going back to the farm to see the farmer's wife. I am leaving my key with Jan and is going to come with me to sit and watch the farm again after 9 when I finish work.

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2012-05-11 11:34 SanBarn

Liz,you are doing great,ignore what they say on facebook, they have no idea what it's like to HAVE to go to work, bills have to be paid,there's no magic fairy to pay them for you. I know what it's like,you're on auto pilot at work and all the while your mind is on Ben,time drags at work because all you want to do is be out there looking for Ben. Some people are so insensitive.Doglost is with you all the way. Stay positive Liz. xx

2012-05-11 09:28 AkitaTaz

Hi Liz, I have text you this morning regarding taking your duvet cover which both you and Ben have slept on and also some food to the farm today. I am hoping that this is a good idea, can anyone in the know advise? D x

2012-05-11 09:26 Meru

Liz and the DL team are doing a fantastic job. I post this link on my FB page every day in the hope that someone will see Ben and then he can be moved into the Blue. Never give up hope xx

2012-05-11 08:50 DogLostMillypod (Chris) - Administrative Volunteer

Hi Liz I dont do face book, I know people can be mean and like already said they should be ashamed. I like many on here check your page several times a day. you have some brilliant helpers and co-ordinators helping you and we can see you are doing your very best so stay positive, lets hope today we see lovely Ben reunited soon.xx

2012-05-11 08:45 ClaireC

Hi Liz and they call facebook a social networking site- who needs social network contacts like that in that case! So pleased I don't do "facebook". Although too far away to help you find Ben I just want to say what a fantastic job you are doing along with your many genuine helpers and friends. I hope when I get back to my home on Sun night that I see Ben's page in the blue. Good luck and stay positive and strong, you're doing great as its not easy trying to keep a job down and looking for a beloved furry member of your family. xx

2012-05-11 08:40 J MO

Thanks Jayne x. Jan and I have both taken the day of work to poster and leaflet drop around Biskerstaffe and anywhere else that Wispa takes us to. I really think that the poster and leaflets and spreading the word is the way to find Ben. The area that is has been recently spotted is vast farmland and if he is coming out at night it would be difficult to see him. Farmers and horse riders are usually helpful with missing dog and the lady at the farm who spotted a dog last weekend has allowed us to park in the farmyard in the evenings.

2012-05-11 08:38 Lisa123

Keep your chin up Liz. Most of us understand your situation and the fact that you NEED to go to work! Come on Ben!!! x

2012-05-11 08:33 animal lover

We are all behind you here Liz. Keep that chin up! Positive thoughts coming your way, let's hope that today is the day for your lovely Ben to be reunited with you xxx. Stay focused and ignore those comments on Facebook. How dare they, they ought to be ashamed.

2012-05-11 08:24 Mollychops

How low can people stoop. How can anyone say she is not doing enough, you only have to read this thread to know that is simply not true!. I have never wanted to go on facebook,Such a lot of rubbish is put on there. You are doing a fantastic job Liz, dont let anyone tell you other wise. XX

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2012-05-11 08:05 jobadger

I'm sorry you're having to endure this Liz - I do so hope the gorgeous boy is sighted again soon. As for the light aircraft - does anyone no of anyone with a microlight in the area? xx

2012-05-11 07:40 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Just had a call from Liz the owner who is absolutely gutted by comments on her facebook page accusing her of not doing enough...Liz has a job so cannot be out all night searching but does do as much as she can. We are all meant to be helping her at this time and not being judgemental.
She has asked that all further comments and help should come via Bens page on doglost as she will not be monitoring her facebook page anylonger.
I am shocked that people who are helping are judging her on Facebook and adding to the stress of this poor ladies situation.
As is practise on Doglost no remarks of a personal nature will be tolerated on this thread... we are here to help dogs and owners as a support team.

2012-05-10 23:21 jinny

might seam i bit far fetched but could,nt somebody ask a pilot of a light aircraft from liverpool airport to keep look out if they fly over that way ??

2012-05-10 22:51 smileyt

Some of those views will be people like me who are checking in a few times a day hoping to hear good news.But the more views the better, as people should be spreading the news, I hope. Keep searching, Liz, don't give up sweetheart. I wish I could magic him up for you. xxxx

2012-05-10 22:24 Unknown

WOW !!!!! 30,OOO VIEWS !!! THATS AMAZING !!! xx

2012-05-10 22:20 Unknown

Here's hoping there will b another sighting soon..well done J.MO..xx

2012-05-10 22:07 wirral groomer

What about the sightings at the farm entrance and school surely a school has security camera's ! We stayed at a travel lodge on a industrial estate not long ago and we couldn't believe the amount of cameras that may of been watching us as we walked our dogs around the area .

2012-05-10 22:01 wirral groomer

Cant believe poor Ben is still managing to stay hidden . Have any of the farms/business got CCTV so many places have security cameras nowadays he must be on a camera somewhere im sure . or I wonder if you could put some food down and set up a camera to see if it is ben hanging around their , we have cameras around our house and garden to watch the hedgehogs and wildlife that we put food out for . You can get them that switch on when movement is detected . They are cheap and easy to set up nowadays . Ind would be scanning everywhere for cameras then scouring through them . Really hope he is found safe and well very soon x

2012-05-10 21:09 J MO

Just got a text from Liz and there are lots of people at the farm in Bickerstaffe looking for Ben.

I've got my printer working overtime printing posters and leaflets and will hit the streets of Bicketstaffe first thing in the morning.

Phebe and Wispa will be out 2moro and I will also poster in any other places that Wispa takes us

2012-05-10 20:06 NickyJ

This Bickerstaff farm sighting does sound promising - good luck tonight. Have you left some food out there?
Earlier in the week I emailed out Ben's poster to a few businesses around Bickerstaff - but I'm sure you're postering them all as well - Town&CountryLGV confirmed with me that they will be keeping a look out and their drivers travel all around the area too.
Everything crossed for you! nx

2012-05-10 19:47 DogLostJulie - Area Co-ordinator - Surrey & South London

Thinking of you all day and following news I am sure Ben must be found soon with all these sightings. Sending all good wishes and praying for you that tonight will be the night you are reunited. Julie x

2012-05-10 18:45 liz

Anyone coming tonight to Bickerstaff to check out farm?

2012-05-10 18:23 liz

http://maps.westlancs.gov.uk/yourwestlancs/YourWestLancs.aspx?uprn=100012416396
This map shows where he was seen 3 times hanging around the driveway to Walkden Farm, the bottom right hand turn. He obviously wanted to be near people. He was just there, she couldn't describe what he was doing. She saw eyes at first in headlights. Over the next few days she saw he was a dog and had a collar. I am convinced, like Deb said, that it is him.

2012-05-10 17:49 liz

Got a call around 3 ish from Ravencroft School, Ebony Way, that two of the children, saw Ben walking very slowly along the perimiter of the school fencing towards St Andrews Church. Jenny, Phebe & Wispa and myself met up and walked round the area and the big parks. Still Wispa insisted on taking us back towards the direction of Pingwood Lane.

2012-05-10 17:46 J MO

POSSIBLE SIGHTING at 2.30 today outside Ravencroft School, Ebony Way, Kirkby (this is in the Leccy Estate)

Liz received a call from the School Secretary to say that two of the children had seen a dog walking very slowly outside the railings on its own and they thought it was Ben. Unfortunately, the school had not kept a leaflet so had to ring the local shop for Liz's number. Lis went there but no sign. Liz is currently their with Phebe and Wispa.

We need to leaflet drop the whole of the Leccy Estate as well as all the houses surrounding Walkden Farm in Bickerstaffe.

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2012-05-10 14:42 liz

Drove round as far as Coach Lane, and asked at a farm where they already knew about him. They lost their Jack Russell a month ago. They knew Marlene too. Couldn't find Walkden Farm but drove round all the roads. I'd like to know exactly where he was spotted each night. Was it same place? I ran out of fuel so had to go back to Pear Tree and get something to eat. Back home to force meat pie down, and then will go out with flyers and a walk round. He maybe sleeping now with the roads being dangerous.

2012-05-10 14:03 Paw

Come on Ben I've been checking in several times a day to see what's happening and won't be able to look again for a few days so would be great to see you home this afternoon! Keep up your good spirits Liz.

2012-05-10 13:29 foggy

Im Amanda who went last nite, Im going again tonight my hubby is bringing a torch that would light up the fields in the distance, I had no torch last nite only the head lights on the car, I seen the eyes of something like was said early. x

2012-05-10 13:19 Unknown

Liz..i think the lady thought he was going to bite her..i will know the exact storey tonight..eg..what time of day on Sunday & what part of coach rd.. xx

2012-05-10 13:02 Stephanie

I wanted to say hi too and send lots of hugs Liz - you are doing a great job and are so strong. Have been willing your fur baby home. Keep strong Liz, and don't ever lose hope. We are all with you. ((Hugs)) xx

2012-05-10 12:42 liz

I need to eat something, get changed and go out. I just don't feel hungry.

2012-05-10 12:42 liz

thankyou and yes everyone is wonderful and I don't deserve them. xxxx

2012-05-10 12:41 liz

When woman said dog went for her, did she mean he just walked up to her? Or did he actually snap? My neice and nephew used to think Ben was going for them when all he was doing was going for a stroke on the head. They would jump back and make him jump.

2012-05-10 12:41 SanBarn

Hi Liz, I'm in Essex so too far away to be of any help but I check your page several times a day,you have some wonderful helpers with you. I'm sending prayers and hugs and looking forward to seeing yourself and Ben reunited. Stay strong Liz, I know it's easier said than done. Bens page has a huge following and we all want Ben home with you. - San xxx

2012-05-10 12:34 Unknown

Come on Ben make everyones day and be found to go home.

I have been following this all the way through but its the first time I have posted here.

Stay safe darling Ben xxxx

2012-05-10 12:22 liz

Just home from work and how it dragged. I feel so absolutely desolate. I'm sorry I've upset people. Sorry I went out in the middle of thei night and kept Phebe and Wispa awake after all their help.

2012-05-10 12:12 Unknown

Latest info..i have been told a lady & her children went a walk on Sunday down coach rd and a dog similar to Bens photo went for her ( i am sure Ben would not do this ) but after all this time on the run he would scared..There are loads of roads off there & disused barns & buildings..someone i know is sending her son later on his quad bike to search fields & ditches on her farm..Has anyone tried the game keeper..or the old game keeper he lives in one of the houses at the end of coach rd by the gates..i hope this helps..i have no car today.. !!! Come on Ben lets be having you home !!!! xxx

2012-05-10 11:50 moonlight52

Dear Liz, I don't believe in god but I do believe in destiny and the power of love! Ben will come home and you'll be back together because you belong together and you've been together through so much! You deserve to be reunited! Just stay strong for a bit longer, sometimes happy endings take their time... xxx

2012-05-10 11:37 Vizsla55

We have everything crossed for you Liz, come on Ben time for your adventure to end and get home to your warm loving home. I have your page open constantly at work prayin to see it in blue and reunited. Think I will explode when it happens! Stay strong, sending all our love and strength to you both. xxxx

2012-05-10 10:58 labradorloopy

Liz I am so far away in Dorset but I am praying for you and Ben; I can feel how much you love him - remember he loves you this much too! Stay strong, you have really good support and help - he WILL come home! Love and kisses from my Labs xxxx

2012-05-10 10:49 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz we are 100% behind you and I have never seen such support in the NW, not everyone is from the NW and Ben going missing has touched so many peoples hearts.

Unfortunately I have got an Annual Reunion which starts at lunchtime today but all things crossed will get to yours tomorrow day (won't drink too much).

Know it is easier said than done but you NEED to try and get some rest, you have still got a job to hold down.

THANK YOU once again to each and EVERYONE OF YOU who have been there for Ben and Liz and are still being so supportive it is all greatly appreciated.

Will be in touch with helpers during the day and have been with Phebe during her stay.

Luv to all. xxx

2012-05-10 09:35 DonnaB

Please come home today Ben! We're all rooting for you Liz, stay strong and don't give up looking. I keep checking Ben's page MANY times per day and hope it will turn blue today xx

2012-05-10 09:11 dreena52

I am nowhere near, but my heart goes out to the owners, please don't give up on him, have you thought of trying a good medium. Anything is worth a try.

2012-05-10 08:43 Trish at K9 Dreams

Stay strong Liz, hoping & praying Ben will be back with you very soon. Take care xx

2012-05-10 08:27 AkitaTaz

Liz I know you have had a really rough morning and are on the brink of giving up on Ben but please don't. You are so close to finding him now! There have been recent sightings where Wispa has taken you (a dogs nose doesn't lie). I am sure that Wispa will take you even closer to Ben today. Stay strong for Ben Liz, he needs you as much as you need him. Lots of love and luck for finding him today xx

2012-05-10 02:10 liz

I am sorry, I had a bit of a cry and had doubts about the whole thing. I need to focus and stay on track and remember the people on here who have given up their free time for me & Ben

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2012-05-10 02:04 liz

I just don't know what else to say.

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2012-05-10 02:00 liz

I am scared people are making him up, these sightings to build up my hopes. Please let it be true that he has been seen. I can't bear it. People have stories of him, but no one has got him. It's torture. Are they just telling me what I want to hear?

2012-05-10 01:56 liz

Like I said before, I discovered blue bells growing in my garden and thought of him immediealy. I can't be bothered spelling correctly. I don't care. Please let us be together again. I have booked a week in Exmouth, Devon late September. It is a cottage with an enclosed garden and cliff walks. Gentle ones for us to go to and pubs where they welcome doggies. Please help me get him home. I can't stop crying again

2012-05-10 01:53 liz

He was and still is an innocent. Bluebells remind me of him, as he is always walking through them. Another magical incident was walking him on a nearby park in Morecambe and he was behind a giant weeping willow tree. I called his new name, 'Ben' and he peeped round tree at me with crisp bag over his nose. It was so hilarious. Haha!!!!

2012-05-10 01:50 liz

Please let us be re united again. I can't bear it. He's out there and I'm here. It's pouring down. I hope he's sheltering. I remember when I got him from te RSPCA in Preston in 1997 and stuck my finger through the bars, and tickled his ear. I could barely reach, but he shrugged it off and grumbled, like the placid teddy bear he is, and that is what did it for me. It was love at first sight. I went a week later, to pick him up and get him into the car. I had a cheapo ford cortina. He tried to climb on my knee all the way up the M6. I had to stop on hard shoulder a couple of times. He had never seen cows before, and couldn't stop looking in the fields. He also never saw the sea before or seagulls. When I got him home, he kept looking up at my face to remember me. I took him on the beach and he ran to the sea and then when he got knee high in the water chasing a seagull, he looked at me, as if to say " what's this? what have you put me in?"

2012-05-10 01:45 liz

I am full of hope. I am not psychic but am trying to communicate with him. Using silver cord method. I will open my mind to anything. I can feel him. It has to be him. He won't have strayed too far from his Lizzie.

I am a cynic & atheist but right now I know he's out there. I may as well give up otherwise. Please can we find him. He only strayed two weeks ago. I will never take him for granted again. He's more spirited & capable than I took him for. I won't patronise my clever man again. Old man? Never!

2012-05-10 00:56 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

WOW Liz up to now Ben's page has had over 28100 views, that is amazing. :) x

2012-05-10 00:41 liz

thankyou Jan, I kep forgetting to thank you but I hope you know it goes without saying. xxx

2012-05-09 23:47 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

UPDATED various size word doc posters are available, if anyone wants them emailing please let us know. They have been sent out to helper who have been spreading the word in the area.

THANK YOU for everyone's continued support for Ben and Liz. x

2012-05-09 23:27 liz

Thankyou J MO and Amanda. It's the fact the lady said she saw a dog with a collar on it's own that's giving me hope, but am scared it will just be someone else's dog who lives nearby. With Wispa scenting him, that is sounding likely too. She's spent two days and nights in mine, so knows his smell by now. I'm dying to wash his smelly bed, but can't yet.

2012-05-09 23:26 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

LOL already updated the DL poster earlier with the new sightings and shared the details again on facebook. I'll update the word doc ones now. Thanks again J MO you are a trooper. :) x

2012-05-09 23:11 J MO

Just spent the last 2 hours driving around Bickerstaffe. Bumped into Amanda and we both saw the eyes of an animal in the driveway of Walkden Farm House. We drove up and it had disappeared into the paddock in the front of the farm where the water trough is. I am pretty sure it was a fox or cat with the length of its stride.

I think it might be worth asking the owner of the Farm if we can park in their drive at the top and see if anything comes out of the wooded area. This is where this fox/cat came from and it is from here that the lady saw a dog coming from.

If anyone is going tomorrow after it is dark, take a torch with you it is very dark around there without the car lights on.

Jan, can we amend the poster to saa "possible sightings in Bikerstaffe"? I will then poster the supermarkets in Ormskirk Town Centre.

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2012-05-09 23:09 liz

Found map from my house to Sineacre lane, and it's only 2.29 miles away and 10 mins in car.

2012-05-09 22:57 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Nik. :) x

2012-05-09 22:57 liz

Thankyou Nik x

2012-05-09 22:46 Unknown

Press release now gone to Ormskirk reporter on Champion.

2012-05-09 22:21 liz

It's looking likely though and thankyou to Owl and Wispa and all you wonderful people who have faith and keep my spirits up and those who have called also.

2012-05-09 22:11 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Update from helper: Hi everyone, myself, helen, phoebe, sarah and marlene have all been round the farms tonight. We spoke to the owners of Walkden Farm and they said they had seen Ben for a couple of nights, then saw him cross Sineacre Lane, towards Mossside Farm. While we were there, we searched a wooded area over the field from them, because they had seen him head towards there, but found nothing. The kind owners also let us search all their outbuildings. The owners also told us that they had seen him crossing Sineacre Lane, towards Mosside Far. I spoke to the owner, who said he had seen nothing, but would look out for him. I have asked him to check every nook and cranny on his farm and armed him with posters. We then headed towards the land behind the fishery, and this this point lost Sarah and her mum, cos the road was terrible, and they had to head back. So lovely meeting u both. It appears that posters, fliers etc, need to be put round the Bickerstaff/Ormskirk area, as that appears sthe direction he has gone in.

2012-05-09 22:02 jobadger

Stay positive Liz - there's every chance it may be the boy. Does the champion have an online edition? Wispa and Owl - you're fabulous!

2012-05-09 21:54 liz

There is a chance it's not him. It could be any dog. I don't want to be disappointed.

2012-05-09 21:53 Claire and Jasper

OMG - there's a Ben Lane in Bickerstaffe! xx

2012-05-09 21:52 BBKM

This sounds really promising that this is Ben.... hope he has had a cozy warm bed in the stables. Good luck everyone, I am praying he is found very, very soon and home safe with you Liz xx

2012-05-09 21:52 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://www.champnews.com/contacts/contacts_newsed.asp

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/

Details posted further down 2012-04-25 20:39

2012-05-09 21:43 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

The Champion is one of the papers we have wanted his details to go in from the beginning as it borders with where he went missing and looks like he is actually in the area now for the paper. Won't be out until next week and deadline is normally the beginning of the week.

The St Helen's Star is the other good paper also mentioned earlier on last week. x

2012-05-09 21:43 liz

I hope it is my boy. I've had some really sweet texts and phone calls these past few days from people following this blog. Thankyou all and I have an early shift tomorrow, 8 - 12 so I can join the search tomorrow if anyone is going. It's only because I have to go into a training session. Ben started as a stray and has ended up as one, if it's him. It sounds too good to be true. If it is him, he has survived, despite his disabilities.

2012-05-09 21:18 Unknown

Fingers crossed x

2012-05-09 21:05 J MO

Nik, Bickerstaffe is one of the Villages outside Ormskirk so Ormskirk Advertiser and Champion will cover this area. Also not too far from St Helens

2012-05-09 20:56 Unknown

J MO, are we talking about another newspaper area, now ?

2012-05-09 20:20 J MO

Liz, forgot to mention that this is West Lancs and their Dog Warden is very proactive. Also dogs from this area go to Leigh Cats and Dogs. home.

Jan, hoping to be there about 9pm.

2012-05-09 20:13 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Fingers crossed here...good luck tonight ladies...

2012-05-09 20:09 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

What time will you get there J MO? Liz does not finish work until 9.00pm. x

2012-05-09 20:06 DogLostJulie - Area Co-ordinator - Surrey & South London

Great news I am keeping everything crossed that this is Ben - Good luck am thinking of you.

2012-05-09 20:06 J MO

Went to Liz'a straight from work and spoke to Liz on the way who advised of three possible sightings in Bickerstaffe and Phoebe would explain. Spoek to Phoebe and Wispa had led her towards Bickerstaffe, past the Frozen food factory where we were last night, and between the Fishery and Walkden House Farm there had been sightings.

Set off to Bickerstaffe and met Deb on the way. It is amazing how we all know each others cars now. We went to Walkden Fram and spoke to the owner. She said that over the weekend she had seen something. First of all she thought it was a fox, but decided it was too big. The next night she realised it was a dog and its eyes shown in the refection of her headlights. On Sunday she saw it side on. It was GSD coloured and had a collar, although she did not know what colour the collar was. it ran accross the road towards the Stables where Wispa had also led Phoebe.

The owner of Walkden Farm said that her dog had been barking in the night during the last two weeks and over the weekend she had seen paw marks around the outside of her dogs outside kennel and her own dog had not been outside.

Deb and i walkded to where the lady said the dog ran to but no sign. This dog is normally out between 8.30 and 10pm.

Just having a brew then will go over there again. I have put loads of posters around this area and have leaflet dropped the farms.

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2012-05-09 19:43 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Wispa took Phebe to the area and farm owner said they have sighted something the last few nights, the farm dogs have been barking and the last sighting was deffo a dog, they thought it was a fox but too big for one. Phebe said to concentrate on the Fishery (New Bridge Farm) before Walkden House Farm.

Check under things.

Phebe is heading that way now and hopes to meet up with some of the helpers who area going to the area. Good luck. x

2012-05-09 19:31 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

3 POSSIBLE SIGHTINGS OF BEN over the past few nights. I've not long spoken to Phebe. SIGHTINGS due to Wispa taking Phebe to the area today. Will UPDATE shortly. WELL DONE Phebe and Wispa keeping everything crossed. x

2012-05-09 18:41 BaileyP

I emailed This Morning too and have oposted of their FB page. I have also made a 4 minute long video of Ben from pics, posters' phone numbers too with all his details with backing track. It's all on You Tube ready for release but I need to check with Liz first as it is very emotional and I want her to have seen it(or know about it) before everyone else does. I thought I'd email the link to This Morning too.

2012-05-09 18:14 Unknown

Have spoken to the researcher doing the lost dogs spot on This Morning. She knows all about Ben (well done helpers) but can't promise anything. Thanks, Madeline.

2012-05-09 16:21 AkitaTaz

Liz you have been a part of Bens life for nearly 20 years. He will know that you are there hun and I believe that he will know when you are shouting him or are close by. Don't give up on looking for him xx

2012-05-09 16:13 Janie

Hi, Liz - have also emailed This Morning to ask them to include Ben on Friday. I wish I was closer so I could help in the search, but I'm in North Yorks. Stay strong & positive, Liz; we're all hoping and praying Ben is home with you soon.

Very best wishes
Janie xx

2012-05-09 15:24 Claire and Jasper

Although he can't hear you, he'll sense that you've been near his little adventure den - which is the loudest 'I LOVE YOU' you can give him. xxx

2012-05-09 15:05 Unknown

Ben will be one of the dogs that we put up. I'm currently trying to get hold of Friday's producer.

2012-05-09 15:01 liz

All this publicity may alert someone who has him. He can't hear a thing Akitaz so won't hear me calling his name. He's totally deaf.

2012-05-09 14:56 AngelaT

Have emailed ITV. Fingers crossed! Owl and Wispa you are both amazing. x

2012-05-09 14:42 animal lover

E-mail sent to This Morning xx

2012-05-09 14:38 Claire and Jasper

I've emailed them too, Liz. He's waiting for you - don't give up. Owl and Wispa - you are amazing! xx

2012-05-09 14:03 BaileyP

Emailed! Poster sent too. xx

2012-05-09 13:46 AkitaTaz

I have emailed also and attached some of his pictures from his FB site. Please stay strong Liz, we didn't have any sightings for nearly a week before and then up he pops. He isn't stupid and will be hiding out somewhere just waiting for you to call his name. DO NOT give up xx

2012-05-09 13:44 MojoPeanut

Stay strong Liz. There is every chance Ben is alive and in the woods somewhere. Now we have a new search area we need as many people in the area to search as possible xx

2012-05-09 13:42 MojoPeanut

I have emailed this morning too. Come on ladies (and gents). The more emails they receive about Ben the more likely they are to feature him. We must get media coverage for Ben in case he is sat curled up in front of an old dears fire :) xx

2012-05-09 13:38 liz

Bb off again. Just sent email in time.

2012-05-09 13:30 liz

Angela, don't mind you putting mobile on, I just have below. xx

2012-05-09 13:28 liz

Owl and Wispa are out again as I got too emotional. We came back to the park we go to and Wispa followed a scent that took us back to Pingwood Rd again where we went last night and found animal tracks. We came back to freshen up and rest with a cup of tea and now and Owl & Wispa have gone without me. I was getting too emotional. I have now decided to face the worst, he may have passed away, and have now kept busy & hoovered, dusted mopped everywhere, so th house is clean again.

2012-05-09 13:20 liz

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2012-05-09 13:20 liz

Dear This Morning

I am absolutely devastated.

My 19 year old dog Ben went missing on 22nd April.

I live in Kirkby, Liverpool.

He is deaf, almost blind and has the onset of parkinsons in his back legs.

I am inconsolable. He needs to be home for his medication.



My broadband is intermittent so I am doing this quickly.



He is collie cross, alsation, very attractive, long haired, medium built, looks like Lassie from the front and an alsation from behind. Colouring is golden, ginger at the front, and black and tan markings on his back, and tail, which is very long and bushy.



I have had wonderful volunteers from DogLost helping me ever since, searching round the clock, and a lady with a sniffer dog is out currently searching. She is staying the week with me.

I am beyond comforting.



Please help me find him.



Regards



Liz Jennette
I am beyond comforting.



Please help me find him.



Regards



Liz Jennette

I am beyond comforting.



Please help me find him.



Regards



Liz Jennette
01515481604 or 07557797578

2012-05-09 13:04 liz

My stupid broadband is off again?!!!!

2012-05-09 12:36 jobadger

This morning tv programme have posted this on their website....

This Friday we’re intending to feature an item on missing pets. So if you’ve lost a pet, or think you’ve had one stolen, let us know and we might be able to feature them in our missing pets gallery. Email thismorning@itv.com with some good shots of your missing pet and a few details that might help: when you last saw your pet, any distinguishing marks, habits or characteristics. Maybe it was wearing a particular collar. We need your emails by 5.00pm Thursday the 10th May. http://www.itv.com/thismorning/life/reuniting-lost-pets-with-owners/

2012-05-09 09:17 AngelaT

Oh Liz, I hope you dont mind but I gave him your mobile number as well as mine in case there are any sightings. x

2012-05-09 09:16 AngelaT

Have had an email from Security Co-ordinator at Knowsley Council and he now has a picture of Ben and is forwarding to all security staff to keep an eye out for him. Step in the right direction!

2012-05-09 08:45 NickyJ

You mentioned that you were spotted on CCTV by security guards when you were in one of the fields that Wispa led you to - why not ask those guards if they keep recordings of their CCTV from the past few weeks and see if Ben appears in any of them? (I believe as a back-up many security companies do keep recordings for some time).

2012-05-09 08:35 jobadger

I'm so glad you've got Wispa and Owl - and I'm so pleased that sightings are tying in with Wispa's movements. Good luck this week - everything crossed for you and the gorgeous boy! xx

2012-05-09 07:32 liz

Hi Snipets, thankyou, I really don't know where else to suggest or look. I always kept him to the first Saxon Green on Penda Drive so that he wouldn't cross the road to the other one and get lost, ironically. We did used to go to the fields round the back of the Farmers Arms. He loved that big field. I am now just following Wispa's nose. I am hoping and hoping she locates him this week. Owl and Wispa are here for the week.

2012-05-09 07:20 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Well done to the search party...

2012-05-08 23:19 Snipets dog grooming (Kirkby)

I know you keep looking in the most common places that Ben likes to go to but can you let us all know his favorite places and walks as an extra pair of eyes always helps if he makes his way back to familiar territory. I have been checking Saxon fields and the Pagsey every day and scouring the fields by the farm shop behind the mount garage. Today i walked the length of the river on the Shevington side and sadly everyone i spoke to all know about him but have nothing to report. Come on old boy, please come out and let us find you.

2012-05-08 22:57 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Not long got home, went straight to Liz's from work and it was great to see Liz in much better spirits never seen her so positive and a lot more relaxed.

We cannot thank Owl and the gorgeous Wispa enough for coming over to Liverpool (and they do not even need a Scouse Dictionary).

As Liz said we accompanied Owl and Wispa while on their search. LOL how good was that Liz, Phebe and Jenny for us to be called kids by the security? As we were in the fields we had been spotted on CTTV and the security guy said his boss had radio'd through saying there was kids in the fields. It was the second time that Liz and Phebe had been referred to as kids as they were searching in fields.

Sending positive thoughts for Wispa to get some results and help us locate the area where Ben and if not back before Phebe has to head back home at least we know of another place to look.

Met up with Deb, Gill and Gill's friend, thanks girls for helping in the searches again. You are all stars.

Hope to see you seen again Phebe and Wispa before you go home and enjoy your well earned rest tonight and your time in Liverpool. xxx

2012-05-08 22:50 J MO

Glad that you are feeling more positive today. Where Wispa had led you to, Pingwood, is also the third point on the triangle. I'll go again after work 2moro and call into some of the farms so the farmers can keep an eye out. The Security Guard was working a night shift and he said that he will keep an eye out. Gave him plenty of leaflets which he will hand out to the lorry drivers.

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2012-05-08 22:29 NickyJ

Well he could've darted after a fox or something when he left the house, and went off in the opposite direction to where you thought he'd gone. I'm looking at these industrial estates on Google maps and they're pretty big places - probably some unused sites there too. I'll try to look up some of these companies and email posters out over that way. Good luck x

2012-05-08 22:26 liz

Thankyou again Nik and Jayne, and everyone who's wished me the best - sorry, too many to type - and it's so nice to have Wispa in the house on the settee, making cute noises and being contented. She is also a guard dog and barks at any noise outside. It's so kind of Owl also and nice to have her company. Also seeing Jan and Jenny and speaking to Deb and Gill. I feel less alone. Let's hope Ben is found this week.

2012-05-08 22:23 Unknown

That sounds really positive. Well done, Wispa !

2012-05-08 22:15 smileyt

Liz, that sounds positive. And an industrial site would have plenty of places for a dog to hide and keep dry. Fingers crossed that this leads to finding him. I wish I could wave a magic wand for you. I know I would be going spare too if it was one of my babies missing. Take care and good luck tomorrow xxxx

2012-05-08 21:31 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Well Liz...lovely to hear you positive...and You have 3 very good and caring co ordinators with you...and Whisper...who has probably taken up the whole sofa by now...have a good nights sleep...will let you know any updates.

2012-05-08 21:29 liz

Thankyou everyone for your kind comments and encouragement. xxxx

2012-05-08 21:24 liz

Well today, Owl arrived in Kirkby townie, to meet me and we drove round to mine. Then I met the lovely Wispa. Again, I was in floods of tears, but after a spot of lunch sitting in the garden, we set out. I was most surprised, as Wispa crossed the road and went a different way to the way we would normally go. She followed the road towards Weaver Rd, which is where Ben was first sighted. This explains why I couldn't find Ben on the field or the road leading to it that night. Feeling less guilty now. Wispa was positively pulling us towards Pingwood Road, which is approx 2nd or 3rd sighting. She then drew us towards a hidden path into farmers land, and we found small dog foot prints, one set were 'turned in' like Ben's back legs are with being paralysed. Wispa kept on going and we found more. She eventually led us to fields beyond the VOSA recycling plant where we hit a dead end. We did have security guards questioning us, like criminals. Once we explained and they saw how Wispa, was puling at the leash, they let us be. We had to stop and go home for a rest and had tea and met up with Jan and Jenny. We all walked round again through the fields and Wispa was pulling at the leash again. We went to a big freezer place and was stopped by security again, but once Jenny explained all, they were more than helpful. We all came back to mine and Jenny and Jan went off to poster the industrial sites we had just visited today. So all in all, feeling a bit more positive. Thankyou everyone and Jayne who has just called me. xxxx

2012-05-08 21:08 liz

This last comment was in draft as I've had no broadband til now.

2012-05-08 21:07 liz

Me and Ben had a routine of doing the rounds of the garden looking at the plants. He would follow me like a shadow, wherever we lived. In our first
house, then in our next marital home, and then mine around the fruit trees I planted. It is a routine we have and I can't bear doing it on my own. Just had to get his empty bed out from under the stairs and it's set me off again.

2012-05-08 21:05 DogLostJulie - Area Co-ordinator - Surrey & South London

Dear Liz - I am way down in the South East and have been following all the news. Please keep strong and keep faith that lovely Ben will be found it is just to painful for words and I am sending love to you from all of us in the South East who are praying for Ben's safe return to you. With love. Julie x

2012-05-08 14:50 Unknown

Maghull & Aintree Star is the Liverpool Echo. I sent them another release last night. I did try to raise Ben's profile by asking helpers to drop an email to the Echo, but some helpers accused of starting a vendetta against them !!!!

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2012-05-08 13:14 AkitaTaz

Hang in there Liz, everyone around you is doing all they can to get him home x

2012-05-08 13:10 liz

Just got his bed out & it smells of him. Started me off again.

2012-05-08 13:07 J MO

Nik, please can you contact the Maghull and aintree Star?

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2012-05-08 12:21 liz

Thanks Toby. I can imagine exactly how you feel/felt. You must've gone through exactly the same pain, and probably still are. Also the loss of your 17 year old. That must have been so hard. I can't think about anything but Ben right now. He came with me when we moved 60 miles away from home, to a place where we don't know anyone. It was just me and him against the world. Staying home at night was wonderful, especially when it had been raining. We had each other. He would sulk if I spent too much time on the computer upstairs or pop his head over my laptop downstairs. Oh that's started me crying again. I hadn't been taking him out as much with his back legs being the way they were, so I think he must've got so bored, he shot off as soon as the opportunity presented itself. If he was here now, it would just be another run of the mill day with he weekend to look forward to together. He made ma laugh on a daily basis. Now he makes me cry. The thought of him. He was spotted last week twice and to think he isn't around anymore, and no one has seen him. I am getting phone calls all the time from people asking about him, but no one actually has him. I do hope Wispa can find him, and hope she finds him alive. I'm scared she won't find him, or finds him dead. Someone may have him but I wish they would just contact me as this is pure hell. xx

2012-05-08 11:56 toby

we're all praying for him Liz.Like you, I constantly reproach myself for that day in Jan when I took Maggie out. The thing is, I didn't do anything different that day to any other day.I had my boys Toby and Sam with me; usual routine of keeping Maggie on the lead until we were up in the forest. I often think she may have been freaked by the snow; if only I had done a different walk, if only I had took them out in the van instead of the mountain walk behind the house. But, I cannot alter any of it. I really wish more than anything she would run towards me and I would have her back. As I said previously, I can relate to your story because I too had a collie that lived to 17. She was walking up until the very day before I had to have her put to sleep. I always rescue collies so I waited 8 months to get an Irish rescue collie. She was absolutely adorable and My heart aches for her every day. The trouble is, us dog walkers cannot prepare a check list of what might happen every time we leave the house to go out walking, and we all want our dogs to have a great life and enjoy lovely walks off the lead. I do think in hindsight that Maggie was a lurcher cross collie who was definitely interested in hunting birds and possibly rabbits. Once she had left my sight I spent all day with my boyfriend and his collies walking that wood and mountain.I was then convinced she had been stolen so advertised in the press in S Wales; went to traveller sites, posters everywhere......nothing. Its a terrible void and I have felt absolutely awful that Many tears brought this gorgeous little dog back with her 2 pups from Ireland in the hope of a forever home and I could only give her 8 months.
I really hope you get your boy back.....never underestimate the power of hope......

2012-05-08 11:06 J MO

Good luck to Phoebe and Wispa today x

2012-05-08 11:02 NickyJ

I'm carrying on emailing Ben's poster to as many businesses in your area that I can trace from maps and listings online. I hope it helps spread the word and might just jog someone's memory. Nx

I've also posted his advert on Liverpool's AdZooks website under Community/Lost&Found

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2012-05-08 10:49 liz

Just been round parks again. I want my little disabled dog back. Crying so much at t I can't bear this separation. hought of him.

2012-05-08 10:03 Tracey

fionap someone checked this out, sadly its not Ben x

2012-05-08 09:38 AngelaT

Have asked local councillor for the procedure to check out the CCTV at Mill Farm. He will get back to me soon.

2012-05-08 09:34 fionap58

just saw this i think its bit far for ben but best to mention this dog its on fb "4PawsGSD Lost, Found, Stolen & Re-Home Dogs" Reports of an elderly, collie sized dog that is possibly male, wandering around Barrow for the last 3 days that the reporter is aware of - Ainslie Street area at this point in time. It has also been taken in by at least 6 home owners and fed but all they have been advised to do by the police and dog warden is to let it out to roam. The lady's son has gone to get the dog because of the atrocious weather here at the moment. If anyone is able to help that is in the Barrow, there is contact number on fb post, xx

I've just copied this from further down as no-one commented probably thinking it was too far away but someone could have picked him up in a car and taken him anywhere. It wouldn't be the first time a lost dog has tipped up miles away from home. I have no idea how to 'work' Facebook but could someone check it out?

Last edited: 2012-05-08 09:36:14 by fionap58

2012-05-08 09:34 liz

Lady with Whisper/Wispa is setting off soon. I have to nip to the bank and sort out my vodaphone bill. I will drive round the area looking.

2012-05-08 09:16 Meru

I post this link on my FB page everyday - come home Ben please xx

2012-05-08 08:38 liz

Thank you both, my mistake wssnot putting him on the lead before I went out in the dark. I didn't contemplate this happening at all. He is always just a few paces ahead of me day or night.

2012-05-08 08:30 AkitaTaz

Good luck today with the tracker and please stay strong for Ben Liz. My gut feeling says that he is out there just waiting for someone to find him. He wasnt seen for a good few days between the 26.4 and 2.5 so has obviously found himself a good hiding place. Time to come out today Ben, the sun is shining and its time to go home xx

2012-05-08 08:00 moonlight52

Dear Liz, I've been following your story for a few days now. Unfortunately I live in Switzerland and can't be much of a help in the search for Ben. But what I'd like to tell you is: don't be so hard on you! Yes, maybe you made a mistake by not going out for a walk with him that afternoon, but that can't overshadow the love and unconditional affection of the past 17 years! He loves you and he will come back to you! Keep your hope up, don't give up! Dogs have often prooved that miracles are possible! They are capable of so many things. Whenever I'm sad or miss my dog, I read this little text and it gives me hope again, I hope it will comfort you as well :


Just a Dog
From time to time, people tell me, "lighten up, it's just a dog," or, "that's a lot of money for just a dog." They don't understand the distance traveled, the time spent, or the costs involved for "just a dog."
Some of my proudest moments have come about with "just a dog." Many hours have passed and my only company was "just a dog," but I did not once feel slighted.
Some of my saddest moments have been brought about by "just a dog," and in those days of darkness, the gentle touch of "just a dog" gave me comfort and reason to overcome the day.
If you, too, think it's "just a dog," then you will probably understand phases like "just a friend," "just a sunrise," or "just a promise." "Just a dog" brings into my life the very essence of friendship, trust, and pure unbridled joy. "Just a dog" brings out the compassion and patience that make me a better person.
Because of "just a dog" I will rise early, take long walks and look longingly to the future. So for me and folks like me, it's not "just a dog" but an embodiment of all the hopes and dreams of the future, the fond memories of the past, and the pure joy of the moment.
"Just a dog" brings out what's good in me and diverts my thoughts away from myself and the worries of the day.
I hope that someday they can understand that it's not "just a dog" but the thing that gives me humanity and keeps me from being "just a human."
So the next time you hear the phrase "just a dog." just smile, because they "just don't understand."
And remember „just a dog“ can work wonders

2012-05-08 07:09 liz

I was sitting on the floor talking to the mortgage people and he was trying to climb onto my knee days before the weekend. He wasn't ready to die yet. He still had life in him. He had senior moments and weak back legs but he still played in the garden and jumped up and down with excitement when I had his tea ready. Then he's roll around in his bed contentedly wiping the food from his mouth. I can't stand this pain anymore!! WHERE IS HE?????

2012-05-08 07:00 liz

I can't forget the Saturday morning I was setting off for work and he looked at me as if to say "You're going to work again!?" and I assured him I would be back at lunchtime, only I never did. I left him there until later that afternoon. He had pooed & wee d from not knowing where I had been. I wish I had come home lunchtime and fed him and walked him. He didn't get fed until 7pm and after about half an hour, I went out again. I regret this so much, and would give anything for him to be back so I can make it up to him. One day, one mistake.

2012-05-08 06:47 liz

I just had to go into the shed for the guinea pig bedding and there were Ben's bowls. One still had a bit of his last meal he had on the Saturday afternoon, when I popped home to feed him, before going out again. I so wish I had walked him then and I wouldn't have done so later that night when I came home. I had a memory of a couple of summers ago, when we had just moved here, he got himself trapped in the shed. He doesn't bark, so I didn't know he was there, until I realised he wasn't around. I opened the door, and there he was looking at me. It made me smile but even that made me start crying all over again. We haven't even lived here 2 years yet. On the 29th May it will be 2 years since ex husband dropped us both off with all the furniture and drove away for good. It is absolutely killing me because he just got on with it, and explored his new home and settled down straight away.

2012-05-08 06:42 liz

Thanks Toby. I can't bring myself to read about others yet, as selfish as it sounds. Sorry for the loss of Tara and Maggie, who may still turn up. I don't know what to think. He was definitely alive the first week, maybe even last week, but now I'm not so sure.'ve just been out in the garden changing the guinea pigs' bedding, yes at 6am, and the garden just makes me fall to pieces. This is his garden. I bought the house for him because of the location and the enclosed garden. Even the window cleaner says he always goes to the back patio windows to look at him when he's cleaning and if he's not there, says it's very strange, but that's because sometimes he's asleep on my bed. I noticed in the corner, one of my bulbs that my dad gave me, has sprouted a bluebell. I don't know if this is a sign of Ben being alive or if he has passed away. I am not a superstitious person, or religious, it's just the comfort it gave me as I'd not seen it before. I didn't think my bulbs would sprout until next spring.

2012-05-08 01:05 toby

I'm following your story daily on the Doglost website. Sadly, I lost my newly rescued Collie Maggie on the 31st Jan 2012, whom I had owned for nearly 8 months.Its been over 3 months now and even though I have other collies, I'll never come to terms with her loss. I look for her in the woods every day. She went off chasing birds; the snow then came down and we've heard nothing since. 8 months before Maggie, I had to have my 17 year old collie Tara put to sleep. A wonderful dog.....so I can appreciate your awful trauma of Ben going missing.This site has been an eye opener to me. Until you've lost a dog in the circumstances like many of us have on this site, no one can know what its like.
Some days, I am completely overwhelmed by it.....my other dogs keep me going.This site is also a wonderful resource. Its also kept me going to relate to others in the same situation.

2012-05-08 00:22 liz

Cried so much I've given myself a headache. I can't believe this presence, who's been there, like my little shadow, all these years, is gone, in seconds. That's all it took. The one thing waiting for me at home to make me forget any troubles, that wanted food, attention and love. I let him down big time. Now I think about it, he could've back tracked up someone's driveway and I walked past thinking he was on the park. Then we lost each other.for good. It's getting to the third week now. It's not like him to be gone from home so long and not find his way back. Something isn't right. Like a wounded teddy bear, he would make his way up, even if I was in the bath or on the loo. He wouldn't let the little matter of parkinsons stop him getting up the stairs. I am an aetheist but now, PLEASE GOD bring him home to me and I will believe again!!!

2012-05-07 23:44 Unknown

News release and photo now gone to the Ormskirk Advertiser series.

2012-05-07 22:16 J MO

Is anyone able to contact Knowsley Council 2moro to see who checks the CCTV footage from Mill Dam Park. We may be able to see which way Ben entered and left the park last week. I've got meetings all day 2moro

2012-05-07 21:09 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Yes take a break Liz...if you need to talk call me on 0844 800 3220...Jayne

2012-05-07 21:06 liz

I can't bear it any longer. I've just looked out at the garden where he wanders and stands looking through the gate. I think I am having a panic attack. I know everyone is doing their best to help. He's just a helpless little fella. I think I need to take a break off here for a bit and watch TV to take my mind off him a bit. xxx

2012-05-07 20:55 liz

Ben has been everywhere. Honeymoon in Scotland in 1998. Then back to same cottage every year for anniversaries. Also to the Lakes, up The Great Cable on the Screes, and Wales for weekends, Cornwall & Devon, Berkshire with relatives. Up in a cable car in the Scottish Highlands, on ferries and boat trips...and more. Over the 16 years he's been my adopted son, we've had a great life, and now in his autumn years, he should be contentedly sleeping in his bed when I come home from work. I know I am not the only person to lose a dog, but he's not just any dog. He's Ben. Like someone said...."He's something else!"

2012-05-07 20:46 liz

Thankyou, he is my world. My life. Life isn't the same without him. The house is so empty & the only time I am not crying is when I am sleeping or at work speaking to customers, and that is hard.

2012-05-07 20:44 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Just logging on and catching up with things.

Thanks janni0706, yes that found one was a Golden Retriever and was followed up by Oska's owner.

I am back at work tomorrow and hope to go to the area and look out for Ben hopefully straight from work if my own dogs are sorted. Will meet up with Owl. x

2012-05-07 20:44 liz

My heart is broken. I am crying again. It's raining and he should be here. Every other second is filled with thoughts of Ben.

2012-05-07 20:42 jinny

hi liz i was reading of dogs that had gone missing on here from a few years back and one ladys little dog was missing for a whole month and was found safe and well ,so keep your hopes up it wont be long till ben is back with you ,your doing a great job as are all your helpers xxxx

2012-05-07 20:26 liz

Thank you everyone. I managed to finish an hour earlier at work tonight with it being quiet. I have to make up the time Friday. I came out of work crying again, and got into the car, and it's pouring down. I can't stop thinking that Ben would be still trying to get home. He's happy with me in his life, and loves treats of sausages & chicken. I can't bear to open the tinned ham I bought from the farm shop a few weeks ago. It's his favourite. He has a good life here, warm house, comfy bed, nice garden, rides in my jeep, lie ins on my bed, lots of attention and love. I can't stand the thought of never seeing him again. We HAVE to be reunited.

Deb I can't use my mobile with owing £200 on it currently. XXX

2012-05-07 20:25 fruitbat49

Ohhh, I hope this little one is found soon . . . he's too old to be out alone in this cruel world :( Hurry home Ben. Pleeeeaaassseee!

2012-05-07 19:09 ClaireC

OMG wouldn't rate that police spokesperson or dog warden if thats their attitude. How cruel.

2012-05-07 18:51 twinks

just saw this i think its bit far for ben but best to mention this dog its on fb "4PawsGSD Lost, Found, Stolen & Re-Home Dogs" Reports of an elderly, collie sized dog that is possibly male, wandering around Barrow for the last 3 days that the reporter is aware of - Ainslie Street area at this point in time. It has also been taken in by at least 6 home owners and fed but all they have been advised to do by the police and dog warden is to let it out to roam. The lady's son has gone to get the dog because of the atrocious weather here at the moment. If anyone is able to help that is in the Barrow, there is contact number on fb post, xx

2012-05-07 18:46 Claire and Jasper

Hi, good spot. I think Majorjet knows about that dog - he came up as part of the search for Oskar the golden retriever, missing from Runcorn. Hopefully she'll be able to say whether it really is a retriever. x

2012-05-07 18:19 janni0706

Could this be him, it is a long shot but may be worth looking into
http://www.animalwardens.co.uk/lost-found-dogs-search?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&_____catid=0&sobi2Id=34805

2012-05-07 18:18 J MO

Thanks Mojopeanut, struggling to keep track between Facebook and here. It's starting to rain here now so think he might be hiding to shelter. I'll probably go straight from work 2moro.

2012-05-07 17:56 MojoPeanut

I think the next scheduled search/poster is tomorrow night not tonight - Tuesday. Meeting at Mill Dam car park at 7pm. All help greatly appreciated. All posters will be supplied. Please if u are free come and join us xx

2012-05-07 17:24 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

J MO...how do you find the energy...tx

2012-05-07 16:58 J MO

There is another search tonight starting at Mill Dam Car Park at 7pm

2012-05-07 16:44 PA

Hi, i just want to say im soooo rooting for you to get your beautiful Ben back home with you. Hopefully he'll let himself be caught very soon. Fingers crossed. PA.

2012-05-07 15:55 J MO

Just been out and about again today. Been to where the sock was left, driven around the gas estate, over to Pingwood and heading towards Simonswood. No sightings but we need to leaflet drop the gas estate and poster the farms heading towards Simonswood.

2012-05-07 15:52 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Have been to Halewood RSPCA he is not in there. x

2012-05-07 13:26 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&bav=on.2%2Cor.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.%2Ccf.osb&biw=1005&bih=679&q=l33+4et&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq&hnear=0x487b186e6e722381%3A0x2cb98f5ffeef8861%2CLiverpool+L33+4ET&gl=uk&ei=cLunT9zZF-bO0QXduuiXBA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CB0Q8gEwAA

This is where he has gone missing from L33 4ET

If you select the Satellite View (top r/h corner) it gives you an aerial view and you can slide across all the surrounding areas. x

2012-05-07 13:06 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Have emailed the scenting instructions again to Liz and also J MO who is going to the area today with other helpers. Good luck everyone who is there today. x

2012-05-07 13:04 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Snipets dog grooming (Kirkby), just what we need people who live in the area looking out for him. x

2012-05-07 12:33 Snipets dog grooming (Kirkby)

Liz. Keep hoping. There are a lot of people helping you look. I am a dog groomer working from Saxon Way. We are walking our dogs every day around the Saxon Fields and the Pagsey. Had no sightings but take hope everyone is looking and talking about Ben.i have posted this link on my Facebook page and am telling customers to keep looking. We hope he is found soon, safe and well. I am always getting people calling to my house with dogs found wondering lost as people know i am a groomer.i really hope the next one is Ben.

2012-05-07 12:05 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

2012-05-03 13:34 liz
BACK TRACKING SIGHTNGS (as posted by Liiz on DogLost)

Week commencing 23rd April
A man saw a collie cross walking down Weavers Lane, Kirkby, round corner from my drive, date and time unsure. He was coming from the farmers fields behind Saxon Green. Says he was like Ben's picture and had never seen him before. We have never been there ever. Said he was trotting along quite fast.

24th April 2pm
A woman and her boyfriend saw exact likeness and was so convinced from his photo she called me twice. Both said he was in a trance for quite some time. He does that, with his age. Standing by foot bridge looking towards pond.

Wed 25th April 7:30pm
A woman driver saw a collie outside the cottages opposite Pear Tree.
Date unsure, someone saw a collie cross near Pingwood

Tues 24th April
A little girl saw a collie like Ben trotting from pond to woods around 4 ish, after school.

Also lady resident who's window overlooks this bit, saw him coming out of woods to pond not sure of time.

Tues 1 May 7:40am
A young man sees exact dog like Ben sniffing the foot bridge at duck pond and confirms it with me today when I show him photos.

Wed 2nd May, 12:45pm
A woman rings me to say she has Ben, describes him from flyer in her hand & says he has red collar with yellow tag, which I don't recognise. Spoke to her throughout the day and she is sure it is him.

2012-05-07 11:42 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz I will call into Halewood RSPCA again today. We cannot always rely on kennels making matches but Ben has been well publicised and the kennels have a good photo of him, which they don't always have. This is what happened with Lady ID 38045 recently reunited, the photo DogLost and kennels had was so poor (hardly unrecognisable as a dog because of the above angle it was taken), also her family had not checked for over a week, last day they went was the day she was handed into the kennels but she was in the holding block.

MojoPeanut who is helping did check Halewood the other day. x

2012-05-07 11:25 liz

A lovely lady called offering spiritual advice. I was in the middle of looking at Ben's photos so was crying like mad on the phone. She offered to call me back but I managed to calm down to listen to her. A lady just rang me from the Echo advert saying her dog had been in the Halewood RSPCA for weeks despite her ringing them. She was just ringing about Ben and asking me the usual questions. I can't make any more calls from my mobile or landlie. I just can't afford them. I have very little per week to live on after DDs have gone out. Less than £40 for food & fuel. I will give the hoover trail a go.

2012-05-07 11:23 jobadger

You're going through a nightmare at the moment Liz - stay positive - your lad needs you to be strong - my thoughts are with Ben each and every minute - now would be a very good time to show yourself big man. xx

2012-05-07 10:57 J MO

Liz, I know it's hard but you need to stay strong for Ben. Just going over things and where we are up to there are some things that you need to do.

1 you will need to keep checking where you left the sock
2 you need to do a Hoover trail. I think it would be a good idea to trail from the place where the sock was left at the back of the houses and down the path that leads to the crossing to the Pagsy
3 where Ben was seen at the location where the White Collie is can you search accross the road from this but instead of going to Millenium Park turn left and go down the path to the right of the brook
4 Liz you also need to make a note to hound the Council tomorrow to see you views the CCTV footage at Mill Dam Park. This will give us an idea of which way he is coming from and headed to on Wednesday.

I'll try and get over there later x

Last edited: 2012-05-07 11:17:48 by J MO

2012-05-07 10:56 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz we are all behind you 100% and feel your pain. Your plight has touch so many people. We will carry on searching for Ben and will be saying prayers that someone will sight him again. It is not uncommon for dogs to not be sighted for a few days. Keeping everything crossed for you that he is found soon and you can start to get back to normality. It is a nightmare of a time for you with trying to carry on with work commitments etc. Sending you a massive big hug from each and everyone of us who is following his pages and helping in the searches. Keep your chin up Liz. ♥♥♥

Thank you again to all who are supporting Liz and assisting in the searches.

Ben wherever you are we are thinking of you and willing you back home with your mum. ♥♥♥

2012-05-07 10:26 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Tx Angela and Scott1...

2012-05-07 10:21 AngelaT

My heart goes out to you Liz, it really does. I know exactly what you are going through and I know its easier said than done but try and stay positive. It's the not knowing that's the killer. You have a lot of good people doing everything they possibly can to get Ben back home. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. x

2012-05-07 10:13 scott1

Going to take our dogs on a walk later, we'll go round the farm fields behind mill damn pond and look in the trees and try and help find him, hope he comes home soon.

2012-05-07 08:52 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Liz dreams are normal....everything is spinning around in your head and the dream is a way to let it out. I used to have similar dreams when Hermes was missing for over 6 weeks...but got her back...hence this site was started.

2012-05-07 06:15 Teddys Mum - Area Volunteer, West London

Oh Liz, I have just read your post. Dreams are so so distressing when they are so vivid. But remember, if it is so, then Ben is happy seeing hearing and young again and nothing can harm him.However, the mental torture you are going through, evoke all sorts of thoughts that manifest themselves in dreams. Whatever the outcome, I hope you can get closure. Sending you both healing thoughts. x

2012-05-07 06:04 liz

Can't stop crying so much.

2012-05-07 06:02 liz

Had a dream that I saw Ben for the last time & he came back but he wasn't real. I had to take him somewhere that he'd already crossed over to. It's tearing me up. It's mental torture. He was young again & could see & hear. He was trotting along & I called him & he turned round to look at me. I hugged him so tightly. I didn't want to let go but like a radio announcement from nowhere a voice was calling him. I think this dream is telling me he's dead & his body isn't far away.

2012-05-07 05:45 liz

Awake again & full of despair.

2012-05-06 23:57 J MO

Nik, where Ben went missing borders Sefton and West Lancs. Can you try and get a story in the following papers:-

Ormskirk Advertiser
Ormskirk and Southport Champion
Southport Visitet

thanks

2012-05-06 23:30 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Went to Liz's who was out searching the area of the open areas near hers with a helper and her lovely husband and son, thanks for turning up. They had travelled from Chorley.

Met tri's mum and her daughter while on the way to Liz's, the three of us started to look around the area near to where Liz lives. Then we met up with Liz, helper and family. When everyone went home spoke to Liz and gave some advice re the hoax calls. Myself, Liz and her mum headed to the top part of the pond and I had a walk around. Spoke to some young lads who asked about Ben they said they had been speaking to Liz earlier in the day. Very nice lads who are on the look out for Ben.

Liz gave me the socks she was wearing and one has been left by a bush. J MO it is the area we looked at the other day. I stayed in the area until 9.40pm when it got dark. x

2012-05-06 20:13 J MO

Angela, the lady who works in Ambleside is 99% sure it was Ben. We also had another sighting about lunchtime Wednesday is the park next to Ambleside.

2012-05-06 19:39 AngelaT

Was the Ambleside Drive sighting definitely Ben? Was this the lady who rang Liz and then said he had run off? I am confusing myself....!

2012-05-06 19:20 J MO

Been out and about this afternoon with Liz, Gill and Nick. Been around the woods at Mill Dam Park, Saxon Way Park and the Pagsy. We spoke to dog walkers who knew about Ben but no sightings :-(

I met Marlene and her daughter and they were going to post on the gas estate off Bank Lane. I think we need to leaflet drop the whole of this estate. If Ben bolted from Amblesude Drive on Wednesday he might not have turned right back to the park. He may have run straigt down the road accross Bank Road onto the Gas Estate.

Jan is meeting Liz tonight.

Ben.... Where are you?

2012-05-06 17:52 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

o.k. Liz I will go straight to yours be there approx 7.00-7.30pm. x

2012-05-06 17:35 liz

Thanks Jayne. Jan,there is also Knowsley village. I have run out of laminates but plenty of flyers. Also there is a country road full of farms and fields behind where I live. xxxxx

2012-05-06 17:32 liz

Jan are you coming to mine. I think we've done the park to death. There are places we haven't been to nearer to mine. Liz x

2012-05-06 17:26 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

OMG...sorry to hear that...it does happen occasionally.....one day they will have a dog...then they will know how it feels....keep strong look at all of us that are helping and not some bunch of worthless bored teenagers.

2012-05-06 17:25 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz has been asked to mark sightings on a map so we can see if he is going in a triangle. Will speak to her later when I go to the area.

Re the sighting today of a loose dog in Halewood; I used to see a loose dog which lived in the Leather's Lane area and would sometimes see it while driving along Higher Road the stretch from the Police Station to the RSPCA whilst I was passing through. x

2012-05-06 17:23 liz

I have just been the victim of a cruel hoax. Should've realised when they asked what the reward money was. Got to destination and gang of lads there all laughing and winding me up shouting "Ben!"

2012-05-06 16:45 BBKM

Just wondering if Ben has created a Triangle yet with his sightings?

2012-05-06 16:31 liz

Ben's not Men's arrggh preditive phone text

2012-05-06 16:11 liz

Just wondering about Knowsley village. Run out of laminates. Discussed with Owl the possibility of Men's back legs getting stuck somewhere.

2012-05-06 16:09 liz

See you at 7 Jan at park? I meant pic nickers on previous post.

2012-05-06 16:08 liz

Broadband has gone off so using mobile. Before meeting others I postered other way on corner to recycling centre. Man put poster on clip board & was showing drivers coming in. Then went to Acorn Farm full of pic pickers & put posters in cafe & shop. Left flyers for customers. Then riding school round corner from there & a quad biker who goes across those fields who took some flyers too.

2012-05-06 15:54 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, thanks for the update. See you later. x

2012-05-06 15:48 liz

Thanks everyone. We've been back to Mill Dam Park, climbed through hedges and bushes trawled through streams and mud, handing out flyers to dog walkers. Came back to mine for a rest and then Jenn, Gill & hubby, Mojo & Peanut,(their two sweet doggies), went to the Pagsys. I stayed and manned the phones with my mum. Also, spoken to Owl, who is bringing Whisper on Tuesday. I just rang Owl back and we chatted and I cried again. Thankyou Owl. The only thing is,in past 2 weeks, I've run up a £200 mobile bill which I am having to put on a plan,(£43 billed, £164 unbilled usage), so I can't call anyone back now or text. I can use the landline free evening and weekends for landline to landline.

2012-05-06 15:29 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1044&bih=679&q=L32+2AU&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x487b187f67c0545f:0x53c70c9978ef25a1,Kirkby+L32+2AU&gl=uk&ei=wommT__ZHcm80QWapeT7Aw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CB0Q8gEwAA

L32 2AU is the post code for Mill Lane which is where Mill Dam Pond is and you can park up. x

2012-05-06 15:24 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks AngelaT. :) x

There has been a group search today and helpers are still in the area.

2012-05-06 14:17 AngelaT

Just got back from Pagsy. Walked the length of the stream, that leads off the pond in Saxon Green, up to Banks Lane. Nothing! But that is good news as it means he hasnt fallen in. What about the old driving range? This is one hell of a mystery.....and it is driving me insane.

2012-05-06 14:11 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Don't think it was Ben. The caller had a withheld number and said there was a loose dog wandering around in the HALEWOOD area near the RSPCA. This does border with an area where there maybe dogs on their own!!! At least the guy has taken the time to ring. x

2012-05-06 13:51 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Just on the phone to J MO who is at Liz's and someone had rang with a sighting, Liz was speaking to the caller. Will update as soon as we know where etc. Fingers crossed it is him. Good luck Liz. Jan x

2012-05-06 13:21 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks a million to Owl for the offer of going to the area with the gorgeous Wispa to help search just what is needed. xxx

2012-05-06 13:07 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://visitwoods.org.uk/en/visit-woods/Pages/wood-details.aspx?wood=27624&site=Charlotte's-Pagsy#.T6ZoWujWTCY

Thanks AngelaT for posting this information greatly appreciated. I've posted a link to information about Pagsy. Will confirm this with J MO, we walked a large part of the area on Wednesday and it came out near the Pear Tree.

There have been no confirmed sightings since Wednesday and Ben may of moved on to another part. Hope to be out there this evening.

Keep your chin up Liz everyone is doing a great job and it only a matter of time before more sightings come in. It is important anyone who is spoken to is given a smaller poster to have to hand so they you can be contacted a.s.a.p. xxx

2012-05-06 10:54 Unknown

I mentiond about there the other night..

2012-05-06 10:49 AngelaT

Its the woods the other side of Saxon Green. It leads onto Bank Lane, near to the Pear Tree. There is a kind of lake there and a river runs through the wood.

2012-05-06 10:43 MojoPeanut

What is pagsy?

2012-05-06 10:32 AngelaT

I know it is stating the obvious but has anyone checked Pagsy?

2012-05-06 10:15 Trish at K9 Dreams

Oh Liz please, please try not to blame yourself. I know its really easy to say, but it was not your fault. I am sure most of us have taken a chance with our trusted dogs & not put them on a lead to take them outside, only to watch as they nip off after a smell, a sound (or a pidgeon in my case) It happens, you are not stupid and it is not all your fault !! I am confident Ben will be found safe and well. We continue to send you positive thoughts and prayers, look after youself. Trish, Reggie & Honey xxx

2012-05-06 06:17 liz

Looking back, the week before he strayed off the normal path at the farm shop into fields and the owner of the shop walked round back of farm and found him. I think due to his condition, he was due prone to wandering and forgetting his sense of getting back to me and the car, or house. The night I lost him, I came back to the house and even left the door open and went looking again. In case he found his way home again, as he always does from the park. I think his condition was starting to get worse & I should never have let him go without his lead, in the dark. I've done it many times before, but not lately. I am stupid and it's all my fault. I can't forgive myself. I'm angry at him too but at the end of the day, I am responsible.

2012-05-06 06:13 liz

This awful feeling, like a hole in my stomach. A sick empty feeling. Two weeks today he went missing. I am trying to rack my brains. I can only think that after being couped up for 3 days before, due to the rain and his bad legs, then all day Saturday, he shot off for freedom and was having an adventure further afield. He got himself lost obviously but now, where is he? To give a clue to his condition, when standing on concrete on a lead, he pulls more to snif at things because he can't see them. He looks like a drunken dog as his back legs won't support him very well. Like he's doing the splits. When off the lead, his nose is stuck to the ground sniffing everywhere. He walks just fine & you wouldn't suspect there was anything wrong with his back legs. He can't see past about 1 foot in front. You have to go right up to him for him to see you. That's why if that lady was the last to see him last Wednesday he slowly went to sniff her hand thinking she was me. Then as she was on the phone to me, he ran off. I still can't get over the fact she rang me to say she had him, when in fact she didn't. Then rang me back to say matter of factly, that he had run off again, but not worry, he comes back every few weeks. I am still furious. He doesn't come back every few weeks, this is the first time he's gone missing. Why ring me if you don't have hold of his collar or in the house? Anyone could do that????I know I am takng my anger out on her but she had his poster in her hand at the time & maybe could've run after him and grabbed his collar. He is quite gentle, he would've stopped. I have to run after him on the park because he plays up if he doesn't want to go home straight away.

2012-05-06 05:46 liz

Just woke to an overwhelming sense of loss. Went to the look where he should normally look up as I climb over him. Two weeks today. My stomach is knotted & I feel sick & bereaved.

2012-05-05 23:15 Unknown

Jayne.(head office) arnt they all doing a wonderful job..!! BIG credits & gold stars to them all.. !!! xx

2012-05-05 23:04 Unknown

WOW..21,549 Views..!!!

2012-05-05 23:02 Unknown

Liz..not used the hen n chickens rout in over a year..lol..tend to do east lancs rd and M58..I know all bikers used to collect there..will b up Melling Mount way tomorrow..hunting about.. !! xx

2012-05-05 22:54 J MO

There is another search scheduled for tomorrow. We are meeting at the Mill Dam Park at 12pm. We need to get our thinking caps on as to which ways he could have gone from Ambleside Drive.

2012-05-05 21:55 liz

Jenny has kept my spirits up when I am down. So positive. I am mentally exhausted.

2012-05-05 21:54 liz

Tri's mum, been round what used to be Hen & Chickens and no sign. It's not far from Pear Tree. The Hen and Chickens is now an indian restaurant called Jahal and has been for over a year.

2012-05-05 21:21 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Gosh everyone....you are doing a fantastic job...keep up the good work....its only a matter of time now...

2012-05-05 20:18 J MO

Just got back again. Been around for about 2 hours. Postered around Weavers Avenue where Ben has been spotted and spoken to dog walkers on Millenium Park but no one had seen Ben.

We need to start looking further afield now. If he ran away from Ambleside Avenue then he either ran into Millenium Park, accross Mill Dam Park heading accross farmfields towards Melling or heading towards Pear Tree Pub.

I understand that a few are meeting at Mill Dam car park 2moro at 12pm if you can make it.

2012-05-05 19:47 Unknown

Liz..what about the hen and chickens..they have a bikers night there..they would see alot onthe roads..also Ramblers clubs over the weekend..around Melling Mount..we will come tomorrow and drive around Giddygate Lane etc..All PAWS CROSSED LIZ FOR BENS RETURN..xx

2012-05-05 18:31 liz

I've had one call from the advert, from a lady in Croxteth Park crying and concerned for him and me and said she would call me again for updates. This was around 3pm. Everyone in Liverpool will be glued to the match. Thanks Jenny, for everything Gaynor the landlady at the Pear Tree knows me and Ben well. It is our local. xxx

2012-05-05 18:29 liz

Thankyou again Bridget, and to everyone, LizzyC Ben was sulking because he'd been couped up all day without a walk. He ran off too quickly for me to catch him, then I locked my front door, and he was in distance and gone. From the sightings he wasn't far from our road the next day or so, but obviously can't read signs to get back.

2012-05-05 17:52 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Tx Bridgit...what a wonderful thing for you to do for Ben....this is the essence of doglost and how total strangers come together for owners in their time of need.

2012-05-05 17:18 LizzyC

Liz, was Ben his usual self before he went missing, it sounds so unlike him to go off?

2012-05-05 17:12 BaileyP

So pleased with the advert. The lady I spoke to at The Echo has done me proud. I live in Herts so can't see the paper but have seen it on FB . I really hope it helps. Will be in again on Monday and the free papers next week. Can do it again next weekend if needed - but Ben WILL be home by then!!

2012-05-05 16:39 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

https://www.facebook.com/groups/177058762416397/ His facebook group

Thank you to Bridget for placing the big add in The Liverpool Echo with a photo it looks fab. xxx

2012-05-05 16:18 Sarah

Bit of a longshot.. but has anyone thought of contacting Knowsley Safari Park and asking them to display a poster? Lots of the staff (and visitors) are local and it's just possible someone might have spotted him, even if he's not directly in that area.

2012-05-05 15:13 J MO

Liz you need to stay strong for Ben. It will be a good idea for as many of us as possible to be out whilst the match is on. It will be quiet out and Ben will be able to sense this and might feel safe enough to come out.

2012-05-05 14:44 liz

I finished work today at 1 and am now home with my mum manning the phones. I think it's just a question of waitingw. I've been on and off crying but with my mum here and everyone supporting me, I feel better just staying in. Wherever Ben has gone, I hope he is safe. I am so worried that his health has deteriorated but it's not quite been 2 weeks yet. I just feel so helpless and out of control.

2012-05-05 14:13 liz

Thankyou Bazil

2012-05-05 14:12 liz

Thankyou Jenny and Jan and Bridget. The advert is on p20 of the Echo. I am home with my mum waiting for the phone to ring although people will be watching the match later and may not ring yet. xxx

2012-05-05 13:39 J MO

Just been out and about. No sighting but have spoken to the postman on the estate where the last sighting was and he's looking out for Ben. Also spoken to the Landlady at the Pear Tree and she is going to annouce Ben in the pub later.

Have leaflet dropped the houses around the Pear Tree.

Will go again later

2012-05-05 13:08 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

UPDATED word doc posters with STILL MISSING on are available if anyone requires them please let us know and they can be emailed to you. xxx

2012-05-05 11:25 BBKM

Liz my heart aches for you and what you are going through at the moment. Please stay strong, you are doing a fantastic job. I know it seems such a very long time since Ben went missing. Stay focussed Liz, keep in your mind that lots of dogs (old and young) are lost like Ben for as long or much longer and they are eventually found safe, caught/captured even if they are giving us the runaround. The first dog I helped find was a tiny Miniature Pinscher who was lost for 16 days and was covering an approx 8 miles or more radius nearly everyday. I hope Ben is found safe and home very soon with you. Wish I lived closer to help you in your search. xx

Last edited: 2012-05-05 11:29:19 by BBKM

2012-05-05 10:42 J MO

Anyone outside the area who is unable to help search please can I ask you to assist with the following:-

Ben's poster from this site can be emailed out.

Please can you google business, boarding kennels, vets, dog groomers in the Knowsley area or ay other business pubs etc that you can think of and email Ben's Doglost poster to them.
...
Also the national newspapers also have pet stories and their websites and often have animal related stories in the Sunday paper. Please can email the Nationals and see if we can get Ben's story in their paper or in their website.

Can anyone email Makro in Kirkby and ask them to put the poster on their staff noticeboard.

Last edited: 2012-05-05 10:44:01 by J MO

2012-05-05 10:30 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks J MO for posting great advice as always.

Good luck everyone today who is out searching. I won't be able to go to the area until maybe later on tomorrow and not online much today. Will be thinking about Ben and hope to get the news he has been found.

Fingers crossed him being in the Liverpool Echo for the next few days brings some sightings. xxx

2012-05-05 09:59 J MO

The sun is out and it's not raining which are the same weather conditions as Wednesday when we had the last sightings. Even tho he is blind Ben might actually notice the change in the light especially when the sun is bright. I'll be up and down there over the weekend. I am also going to leaflet drop the cottages by the Pear Tree Pub.

Just a word of advice to anyone postering we have noticed on our travels that the posters that have been up with the black tags are being pulled down by the kids wereas the notices put up with cellotape wrapped around them are harder for the kids to remove and are still up.


Ben is either in the wooded area by Mill Dam Park or had headed through the old golf course back towards Saxon Way park or through the fields towards Melling. I've started postering Melling way cab anyone pick up Saxon Way park and that side if Kirkby?

2012-05-04 22:16 liz

Helen too, sorry xx

2012-05-04 22:14 liz

oh and how could I forget Deb, sorry, you go without saying, with your constant help too. xxx

2012-05-04 22:02 liz

Finished work now, no messages at home, house is still empty without Ben. Rang Jenny and Gill in break times. Thankyou to everyone for your lovely kind help and support. Jenny has a cold from our Sunday search in the rain. Thankyou Jan and Tilly for walking miles also with Jenny and Gill and everyone else. Thankyou Angela and Lynne. Thankyou Bridget for paying for the Echo. Thankyou Nik for getting Pete to mention him on the radio. I am still feeling down hearted that I may never see my little Boo again. Everyone has been wonderful, and being positive and boosting my spirits. I miss Ben's little grumbles as he settles down for the evening in front of me, and his snoring. His looking over at me, to check I'm still there. I have sad songs in my head. Regrets, worry. Elvis, "The Wonder of You", Jim Diamond's "I should've known better." If I never see him again, I will regret it for the rest of my life. I miss his soft furry coat, and his floppy ears. I miss the smell behind his ears. His busy tail, the way he follows me everywhere. He looks up if I go out of the room, so goodness knows how he must be feeling now. Let's hope the Echo brings good news. I'm not strong enough to take bad.

2012-05-04 21:33 solitairejane

We only saw one small poster on a tree near a brook on Mill Dam Park then there were a few on railings close to the traffic lights as you come out of the park on the right. I don't think there are enough posters about. Has anyone tried posters in the local shops and the catholic school nearby. Could Ben have moved on to Millbrook Park? Maybe the area needs to be widened. Hopefully the ads in the papers will give enough exposure too xx

2012-05-04 21:25 J MO

I've also postered around Melling and Maghull where I saw the dog this morning that looked like Ben. 2mori between 5pm to 8pm will be a good time to be out looking when FA Cup is on the TV because it will be quiet out and this might encourage Ben to come out. We also need to poster around Saxon Way and any footpaths leading to the farm opposite the Pear Tree.

2012-05-04 20:24 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

No reported sightings today. :(

Met up today with Liz and J MO at 1.00pm. Gave Liz lots of various size posters. We lit two BBQ’s in the Mill Dam Pond area watched from the high spot for a while and walked around the area in the dense open spaces where he could be hiding up. The only thing we seen was a CAT in the distance in the area where we think Ben maybe hiding up.

Liz had to go to work and myself and J MO carried on and walked across the fields covering where he could of gone across from where he first went missing. Put posters up, handing some out and replacing some with the new updated posters, posted flyers through some of the farms.

Myself and J MO did see the dog that is loose near its house and not far from where the lady said she nearly got hold of Ben. The lady is 99% certain it was Ben which is good.

Four more helpers turned up at 1800pm we stayed with them for a while and they split up and carried on searching round the areas. Postering and handing out smaller ones.

THANK YOU to everyone who turned out. J MO your help has been really appreciated if only we found Ben that would make our day and a lot of people very happy.

There is going to be another search on SUNDAY 6TH around 12.00pm meeting at the MILL DAM PARK CAR PARK if Ben is still not found.

Come on Ben where area you your mum and Team Ben want you home.

If I can I will be there on Sunday but I am out tomorrow night at a family meal. xxx

2012-05-04 19:39 solitairejane

Went up to Mill Dam with my hubby tonight but sadly no sightings. Come home Ben xx. Hope others might have had some luck.

2012-05-04 16:56 alex

Have you tried Animals in need at Spurriers Lane ,Melling? It is close to the Pear Tree pub Some one might have found him and taken him there.

2012-05-04 15:33 AkitaTaz

Hope all goes OK at the vets Solitarejane x

2012-05-04 15:05 solitairejane

Unfortunately I can't make the 6pm meet. I am having to take my sister in laws dog Rosie to the vets as they think she has had a heart attack or stroke. I am hoping to get up there later though. If not Saturday but hopefully he'll be found by then. Praying for some good news xx. Also Liz try and be positive the sightings are a good thing. I think he's staying low and coming out for food. Dogs are amazingly resistant creatures and survive in the wild when they need to.

2012-05-04 12:45 liz

Thanks, that is what I have been doing for 13 days.

2012-05-04 10:57 NickyJ

My heart goes out to you Liz.
All I can say is you've got some fantastic helpers and you are doing all the right things.
Stay positive - Channel all of your emotional energy into looking for Ben!
x

2012-05-04 08:39 liz

The last thing I remember is the big bushy tail disappearing round the corner to the park. I presumed he was on the park by then sniffing round the corners where the trees are, like he does. Or he could've been up someone's drive. All the neighbours have flyers to check their sheds and back gardens. I don't know what to think.

2012-05-04 08:28 liz

The one that ran away from the lady, Lynne, the carer, could be the one who lives at the houses. He had a yellow tag like you see with PDSA or RPSCA on his red collar. I am doubtful that is him. He only has 2 silver tags on his collar, a heart shaped one with my old mobile nbr and a kennel shaped one with my address.

2012-05-04 08:26 liz

Jenny just rang me, she saw an exact description of Ben with a lad in Maghull with a big bushy tail in the air. He does put his tail in the air when happy. I am over compensating by over feeding the guinea pigs, Eric & Ernie. The baby one is so spoilt now he's squealing outside, as he knows I am up.

2012-05-04 08:23 AkitaTaz

Liz you have had 2 confirmed sightings this week the last one being only 2 days ago and he had the strength to run away from the lady trying to catch him. Remember that food is being left by helpers and dogs can manage very well on their own when they have to. Please stay positive hun xx

2012-05-04 08:13 liz

I am worried that after 14 days without food, he could've passed away somewhere. He may have been seen Tuesday, but the sightings were more last week and we can't be sure it was him seen on Sunday outside the Carters at 5pm after the rain stopped and the sun came out.

2012-05-04 08:11 liz

I must have been exhausted because I went back to sleep and just woke up now at 8am. I have to get fuel as driving about means I've used up 3 week's worth of my fuel budget looking for him. I have an appointment at 10 so I feel guilty.

2012-05-04 07:44 jinny

hi liz what your feeling is so natural ,i remember the feeling i had when mine went missing for 3 days , you just feel hopless ,but what you and everyone on here is doing is so far from hopeless,you are doing everything in your power to bring Ben home, i truley believe with the fantastic man power on here it will be very soon ,just keep on doing what your doing Liz keep your chin up ,your little man will soon be by your side sending hugs xxxx

2012-05-04 05:49 liz

Just woke and the pain is unbearable. I am so scared that nothing will bring him out if he's so far away or worse. I want to put those thoughts to back of mind, but easier said than done. Everyone is helping so much. I haven't changed the duvet because he slept on it with me sometimes. I can't hoover up his hairs on the carpet, I can't wipe the nose drizzle off the patio windows or the leather pouffe. I can't erase him.

2012-05-03 23:05 J MO

Been out twice tonight after work. Met Deb and we checked the wooded areas by the pond.just been driving around the estate and had my headlights on the park area from the hill. Haven't seen any dogs tonight. Meeting tomorrow to BBQ at the park. Hopefully the smell will bring him out.

2012-05-03 22:28 liz

Thankyou Jayne too for your lovely VM. I played it back 3 times and cried. xxx

2012-05-03 21:59 liz

I feel comforted by everyone & thankyou. Especially what Jenny said about old dogs laying low.

It has to be him, it just has to be. I have photos portraits, keyrings and embroideries of him. Was looking through photos of him last May running through the poppies on the field, (where I lost him). It was May 2011 and he has this wolfish grin. Then when we came back, I took a 'timed' photo of me in front of fridge, with it open full of food and wine, and when I downloaded it, low and behold, his smiley face is behind me expecting a treat from the magic fridge. It's so funny and cute.

People are ringing me and leaving messages. I cry and then they cry too. It makes me feel less alone. Me and Ben are buddies, soul mates, the odd couple. My ex called us Bodgit and Scarper. Guess who was who? I actually did a shift tonight without crying, well I cried in the loos, sneakily looking at FB. Then as soon as I got into the car. I rush home to hear my messages.

I have an appointment until lunch time then I am working again at 5, so I will only have a couple of hours with the BBQ but have the matches ready and some sausages. I did proffer burnt offerings this morning, but he's not fussy. Almost ate them myself mid morning but they are a bit pink in the middle.

2012-05-03 20:42 jobadger

Just wanted to echo Nik's words - you're doing a fabulous job! Ben - your namesake is home down the road so it's your turn now. Good luck everyone. Take care Ben! xx

2012-05-03 20:03 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Nik greatly appreciated.

The helpers who are meeting up have been following Ben's story and have all been liaising with each other. We do not want to scare Ben out of the area with too many people at the same time looking for him, especially additional helpers who do not know the background. x

2012-05-03 19:28 Unknown

You're all doing a tremendous job. If you're planning a big search over the weekend and want some additional helpers, I can ask Pete Price if he'll mention it. I'd need to know by about 9pm tomorrow night as he's not on again until Sunday night.

2012-05-03 18:46 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Only got a bit of time before going to work and trying to catch up with everything.

J MO I will try and be with you tomorrow for the BBQ. Got some sausages we can use.

Liz, I know it was not Lynne who we spoke to yesterday that flagged you down but the resident who did may of been seeing the one Deb took a photo of.

I've printed off loads of updated posters especially the smaller ones to hand out. With so many people helping and looking out for him it is only a matter of time we get the sighting we are waiting for. xx

2012-05-03 17:29 solitairejane

Jmo I am going up there in the morning. I'd have helped with the bbqs but I've got a doctor's appt. I'll be there at 6pm too to help with the search. Here's hoping xx

2012-05-03 15:27 NickyJ

Would it be a good time to set up a trap yet, do you think? Maybe a local dog warden has one?

2012-05-03 15:23 liz

It so is, I won't be availble untl later, before work. x

2012-05-03 15:17 J MO

Who is available to meet tomorrow about 1sh to set up some disposable BBQ's?

2012-05-03 15:12 Caroline28

DL is an absolutely amazing community. Liz, we are all rooting for you and Ben... emotions running high, hoping the sausages and patience bring him home sharpish xxxx

2012-05-03 15:07 liz

Again, thankyou for your kindness Bridget. The national paper for Liverpool should hopefully bring in a result!! xx

2012-05-03 15:05 liz

Hi, the link is
http://www.knowsley.gov.uk/things-to-see-and-do/parks-and-gardens/mill-dam-park.aspx
and thanks

2012-05-03 15:01 solitairejane

Hi Liz I will be down there tomorrow. Can you please send me a link of the exact spot where you've been sitting and where you think he's been. I don't know the area at all but as long as I have a guideline for my sat nav I should be ok. I will be in my walking boots and will bring myself some food so I can keep going for a few hrs. I think the area needs to be manned as much as possible. Keep your spirits up. My email address is solitairejane@gmail.com

2012-05-03 14:54 liz

Hi sorry can't delete the same message that has appeared below, thankyou Bridget for ringing me although I cry like a banshee when you do and anyone else for that matter. I should think that his will result in even more calls and hopefully someone may have him. With hindsight, going out in your walking boots or wellies with your dog Saturday evenings is better than going out, leaving him at home, feeling guilty.

2012-05-03 14:54 liz

Hi sorry can't delete the same message that has appeared below, thankyou Bridget for ringing me although I cry like a banshee when you do and anyone else for that matter. I should think that his will result in even more calls and hopefully someone may have him. With hindsight, going out in your walking boots or wellies with your dog Saturday evenings is better than going out, leaving him at home, feeling guilty.

2012-05-03 14:47 liz

Thankyou Claire and Jasper and Akita Taz and anyone else I've not thanked. Bit forgetful at the mo as you can imagine and not with it at all.

2012-05-03 14:08 BaileyP

Adverts going in Liverpool Echo/Weekly Post and Metro for this week. Main paper Saturday and Monday and free papers next week. I've got a two column width display ad with photo in Lost and Found section. Hope it helps spread the word.

Keep strong Liz! xxxxx

Last edited: 2012-05-03 14:43:19 by BaileyP

2012-05-03 13:54 Lisa123

Liz you don't have to apologise to anyone, lot's of us on here know exactly what you are going through and the different emotions you feel it is a horrible time for you but please remember we are all rooting for you and Ben. I have lost count of the amount of times I have checked Ben's page. Thinking of you all day everyday :) xxx

2012-05-03 13:44 J MO

Liz, Dogs of Ben's age who are lost will hide for long periods of time and will hardley venture away from where they are hiding. This would tie in with there being usually only one sighting per day. I have bought a disposable BBQ for you to use 2moro. You can cook your sausages on it where you have been today. You will need a match to light it or use the cigarette lighter in your car. I think you need to stay there all day 2moro as I think he might only venture out once in a day. We might need to have this one spot manned all day over the weekend if he isn't back by then. I will be up there later. x

Last edited: 2012-05-03 13:45:57 by J MO

2012-05-03 13:44 liz

Thankyou Claire and Jasper and Akita Taz and anyone else I've not thanked. Bit forgetful at the mo as you can imagine and not with it at all.

2012-05-03 13:37 liz

Jan, the woman who flagged me down was not Lynne who almost got hold of dog on Windermere Rd. It as another resident. They are all watching us look for him and are coming out to their houses on their driveways to help.

2012-05-03 13:36 Claire and Jasper

Well Liz - sliding legs or not - he's one tough cookie! Sending love, luck and more superhero strength to you sweetie. P.S I think we need a rich sponsor to pay for an 'auto-refresh' feature on this page ;) xxx

2012-05-03 13:34 liz

Backtracking sightings:
Week commencing 23rd April, a man saw a collie cross walking down Weavers Lane, Kirkby, round corner from my drive, date and time unsure. He was coming from the farmers fields behind Saxon Green. Says he was like Ben's picture and had never seen him before. We have never been there ever. Said he was trotting along quite fast.
2pm Tues 24th April, a woman and her boyfriend saw exact likeness and was so convinced from his photo she called me twice. Both said he was in a trance for quite some time. He does that, with his age. Standing by foot bridge looking towards pond.
7:30pm Wed 25th April, a woman driver saw a collie outside the cottages opposite Pear Tree.
Date unsure, someone saw a collie cross near Pingwood
Tues 24th April, a little girl saw a collie like Ben trotting from pond to woods around 4 ish, after school.
Also lady resident who's window overlooks this bit, saw him coming out of woods to pond not sure of time.
Tues 1 May 7:40am, a young man sees exact dog like Ben sniffing the foot bridge at duck pond and confirms it with me today when I show him photos.
Wed 2nd May, 12:45, a woman rings me to say she has Ben, describes him from flyer in her hand & says he has red collar with yellow tag, which I don't recognise. Spoke to her throughout the day and she is sure it is him.

2012-05-03 13:27 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, Deb did take a photo of a loose dog which we showed to the Lady who contacted you yesterday (the one by the flats). She confirmed the photo Deb had was not the one she had seen and it definately had a red collar on. Maybe that is the one the lady who flagged you down is referring to.

I am in work and also working tonight until early hours so not online freely. Definately won't be tonight. I've updated the word doc posters and will email out to those I know who are helping in the area and spreading the word.

IF ANYONE DOES SIGHT HIM THEY MUST NOT TRY TO CATCH HIM but gently try to approach and if safe take hold of his collar. All helpers have been advised to carry a slip lead with them. xxx

2012-05-03 13:18 AkitaTaz

Liz there have been plenty of positive sightings of Ben, please do not worry about the people that haven't seen him and therefore do not think it is him. You are so close to getting him home x

2012-05-03 12:43 liz

Ben can still trot along okay, just standing still makes him do the splits on slippery surfaces, like shiny floors.

2012-05-03 12:42 liz

Just phoned police with latest updates & signtings as I had reported him as possibly stolen the night he vanished.

2012-05-03 12:41 Angel

jobadger, Claire & Jasper - thank you for clearing that up for me! I am no dog expert by any means but I am a bit concerned about people trying to grab Ben by the collar and him running off. For a dog with dodgy legs he seems to run fast but my point being this will frighten him and make him less likely to go to people. Having doggy sat my friend’s old, deaf and nearly blind dog many times, unless you were head on to him and moved very slowly, if you touched him it would frighten the life out of him. Maybe it would be better for people to carry slip leads? That way it could be put over Bens head before he realised what was going on. Just an idea. Really hope he’s home soon. x

2012-05-03 12:21 liz

I've been out since 6am, and then walked and walked the streets and park. As I was talking to fisherman, the young lad that saw Ben, happened to walk by and confirmed from his photos it was him. He said it was definitely him. He must've had a good look. Then a lady who's window overlooks the park, confirmed what the little girl had said last week, he was running from the trees towards the pond only little girl said it was other way round and that would've been later. Everyone I spoke to, almost, every passer by knew about him. The only thing that has upset me is one woman flagged me down as I was driving off, and said there was a dog around here that looked like Ben and this was probably the one he was being mistaken for. I've now come home and cried buckets again.

2012-05-03 11:13 J MO

Another sighting Tuesday this week by the pond and bridge in Mill Dam Park.The lad said to Liz that it was definately Ben

2012-05-03 10:49 MojoPeanut

I wish there was a 'like' button on this page for all the lovely comments! So many people looking for this little boy. I hope he realises how famous he has become!

2012-05-03 10:17 J MO

Lix has just called me. She has been at Mill Dam Park since 6am with Ben's blankets and food and clothes from the house. She has spoken to a lady who haas confirmed that she saw Ben around the pond last week. Another sighting in the same area.Liz is staying for another hour and then will go home to check her answerphone and drive round again. I am going again after work.

2012-05-03 10:11 AngelaT

We are all thinking of you Liz and you never know....today may be the day! I am Lynn's sister and we have been out looking for the past two nights. I have a meeting tonight but will go again early hours. You never know....may just find him snoozing somewhere. Stay positive. x

2012-05-03 08:18 AkitaTaz

Stay positive Liz, I was looking at a map this morning and the lady that nearly had him on ambleside looks very close to the pond and is between the pond and your home. Hopefully today is the day and we can all sleep better tonight. Take Care xx D

2012-05-03 07:35 Trish at K9 Dreams

Thinking of you Liz, good luck today & take care. Lots of hugs and tail wags from all of us here xxx

2012-05-03 06:59 Tobys Mum

Liz - I have been following Ben's thread and I am bouncing out of bed every day to log on in the hope he's home, he's so close. Stay strong and know that you are doing everything you can, along with the wonderful people at Doglost, to be reunited very soon. Fingers crossed he'll be home today xx

2012-05-03 06:07 liz

I've made a flask of coffee,I've packed smelly clothes, cooked sausages, packed his blanket to sit on and a dog towel in case he comes up to me all muddy. Going to sit at http://www.knowsley.gov.uk/things-to-see-and-do/parks-and-gardens/mill-dam-park.aspx.
Thankyou friends xxxx

2012-05-03 00:03 BaileyP

I've been in touch with Liz tonight and we are placing adverts in the Echo tomorrow. Hoping to put one in Lost and Found section also a larger one somewhere else in the paper with a pic if possible.

2012-05-02 23:48 solitairejane

Liz, I would even stay with you at night with one of my dogs if it meant we could catch him.

2012-05-02 23:46 solitairejane

Hello Liz, it's looking positive and I am sure Ben will be home safe. I can help look for him on Friday as I'm not in work. If you can send me an email with recent sightings, post codes for sat Nat as I don't know the area at all, I can then drive up with my dogs and look for him. I have a spare lead, always keep one in my car so I can catch any stray dog. I've caught a few dogs and all have been reunited and I would hope that someone would do the same for me if I was in that situation. I'm from seaforth so it's not too far for me to travel in the car. My email address is solitairejane@gmail.com Regards Jane

2012-05-02 23:24 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks jobadger for posting great advice. :) x

We spoke to Liz again today about putting some items of clothing in the area. There is a high spot which is great for sitting off in the car you can see a good way across the area and fields. We advised Liz to do this today, she can be out looking for him and also getting some rest.

We just need that one call for Liz or someone else to get there in time. xxx

2012-05-02 23:23 liz

I think he could've smelled me and my car fumes and his scent in the car. I had the windows open. I was parked nearby. It's too scarey to stay overnight with door open or shut. You don't know who's about at night.

2012-05-02 23:21 liz

Thankyou, but so many sightings, and descriptions. This lady said she got the flyer then looked out and there he was. He came up to her to sniff her hand then ran off. That sounds like him, timid. The day before, the young lad said he had his nose to the ground, which he does too.

2012-05-02 23:11 jobadger

You haven't lost him Liz - he's just having a bit of trouble getting back to you. You'll need his bed and his bowl - and today - even though it's been long - has been more productive than yesterday - no-one has been that close to him since he went off.
Just a thought - have you left anything of yours (or his) where he is staying or where the food is - so that he might stay with it.
Any chance of sitting nearby with the car door open - even if it meant sitting out all night - if it's your scent which is keeping him in the area?
I really do hope he's home very soon - for you both. xx

2012-05-02 22:56 liz

I really thought the nightmare was at an end today when this lady said she had him, but she hadn't got hold of him at all. It's just carried on like an abyss of misery and guilt. Nrmally he would be putting his head on my lap now for attention. Jan asked me where his bed was, and I said it was under the stairs and his bowls in the shed. I can't bear to look at them.

2012-05-02 22:53 liz

Thankyou to all for your wonderful support and kindness and to Jenny, Jan, Deb and Chris and Gill. I am exhausted as I'm sure they are. Long day. Emotionally draining and frustrating too. The fact he was so near yet so far, and work getting in the way too. I keep having flashbacks like funny memories of us jogging along Morecambe prom in a sandstorm and both being blinded by the sand and looking at each other in mutual sympathy, and in rain storms where we were blinded by the lashing rain. I can't lose him this way, we've been together too long and I wanted his final years at home with me, in the garden in summer, in Devon at the end of summer. Days out, nights in, visiting family together. I can't bear the thought of never seeing him again and ending on a bad note. He was sulking as he'd been couped up all day then shot off first chance and got himself lost because I lost eye contact with him. My heart is still heavy and have never felt such pain and loss. This is worse than any heartache I've ever had, worse than my divorce.

2012-05-02 22:44 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Spent the day in the area with Liz and J MO. So close but so far if the sighted dog was BEN. We missed it by minutes and searched around but could not see it anywhere.

Leaflet posted a good few houses as J MO has said. Also spoke to others and handed out flyers to them. There are a lots of posters in the area but could do with more especially where he has gone missing from.

When Liz had to go to work we met up with Deb (who knows Ben), she had seen a loose dog and taken a photo, the lady who reported the sighting early clarified it was not the one she nearly go hold of. She said the one she seen did have a RED collar on, which Ben has. The loose dog Deb seen had a dark collar on.

When J MO had to leave carried on searching with Liz and met up with two helpers who live in the area, one of them said her husband had spotted BEN on Weavers Lane and he knows dogs and is convinced it was Ben.

Met up with another helper with her partner and two Dach's. Also spoke with the Animal Tracker and walked around the area with him and Deb.

Had a good day spreading the word and left just before 8.00pm. Took my BC Tillie who was really good until she fell in Mill Dam Pond right by all the horrible reeves and garbage this was just as we were about to leave!! So she was in need of a BATH when we got home.

THANK YOU J MO and to everyone who turned out, also those who are continually helping in the search and posting flyers to houses postering the areas. The word is spreading and a lot of people are now on the look out for Ben. xxx

2012-05-02 20:38 J MO

The search for Ben started at 6am by Liz and Majorjet, Deb and myself have also searched and postered. We have postered on Pennine Way, Malvern Crescent. Glovers. Brow and the traffic lights at the Mill Lane Glovers Lane junction. We searched all the surrounding woodland areas at Mill Dan Park and met the park warden. At lunchtime Luz got a call that someone had Ben. We drove round and the dog had run off. This sighting was in Ambleside Close which is in the Estate to the right of Mill Dam Park. There is a similar coloured dog running around this estate which Deb photographed and the lady was sure that this was not the dog she had seen. There is also another collie cross on this estate which is Ginger with some White on a pink lead but this is not Ben. Animal tracker joined the search at 7pm and he said he will search through the night for Ben. More food left near the new sighting. Everyone we spoke to was aware of Ben so the news is spreading fast.

2012-05-02 18:33 Millys Mum

Like some other Helpers on Ben's page, I'm too far away to help but have been checking on his page at least once a day each and every day but hadn't posted until today. Liz, it's good to see that you have such great support and help 'on the ground' and hope that it won't be long before Ben is back home, safe and sound. It's such a shame that he evaded 'capture' and hope that he shows himself again but this time to his worried 'Mum'. Good luck and fingers crossed... xx

2012-05-02 16:40 BBKM

So close...please Ben keep safe and stay near that pond, your family and helpers are coming to get you xx Good luck everyone xx

2012-05-02 16:08 DogLostHelen - Regional Co-ordinator - Norfolk, Suffolk and Cambridge

Jan (Majorjet), J MO and Liz have been out searching since this morning around the Mill Dam area and the pond. This was where Ben was spotted and nearly caught...sadly they got there just a bit too late and didn't see him....

2012-05-02 15:29 Unknown

This is good news.

2012-05-02 15:25 DogLostHelen - Regional Co-ordinator - Norfolk, Suffolk and Cambridge

Bumped due to this sighting, praying hard he will be home very, very soon xxx

2012-05-02 15:17 AkitaTaz

Just to let people know that Liz has had a text in the past hour and Ben has been seen near the pond where food was put out last night. A lady has tried to grab his collar but he ran off. People are on their way to help search. Come on Ben a warm bed is waiting xx

2012-05-02 15:15 jobadger

Sorry Angelmort for the confusion - Yes Claire and Jasper, I was commenting on the sighting to send thoughts to Liz to stay positive. He's nearer now than he's ever been. Come on old boy - everyone's willing you home. xx

2012-05-02 14:43 Claire and Jasper

Hi Liz - just wanted 1) to send our best wishes to you and 2) to say I've just seen that Ben's page has been viewed nearly 16,000 times already! Amazing - feel the love! xxx

2012-05-02 14:25 Claire and Jasper

Not yet, but there was a really important sighting yesterday which came into Liz late last night (and there's been another one today). Jobadger was (I think) exclaiming 'He's on his way home' as a commentary on that sighting and the current status of the search. As a certain Belgian TV detective would say 'We are all waiting for news with breath that is bated'... x

Last edited: 2012-05-02 14:27:13 by Claire and Jasper

2012-05-02 14:14 Angel

I’m confused, can someone please clarify. Yesterday this was posted – ‘2012-05-01 23:04 jobadger
Fabulous news Liz - He's on his way home..... ‘ but all today’s posts are still saying about searching for him. So is he home???

2012-05-02 14:08 BaileyP

Liz has just texted to say a woman has just phoned with a sighting of Ben on the roads by the pond. She was inches away from him trying to grab his collar but he bolted. Liz thinks he is scenting her and her car!! Everything crossed here!!!!!:))))

2012-05-02 13:30 MojoPeanut

Thanks Jinny. I have just emailed MDH with Bens poster. I am sure they have already been informed xx

2012-05-02 13:20 NickyJ

Liz, Just a thought - have you tried sprinkling contents of hoover bag in a sort of trail leading to your house? He might pick up the scent of his home? x

2012-05-02 11:35 BaileyP

Good luck everyone with today's search. It's only a matter of time and Ben will be home!

Last week I suggested putting an advert in a prominent poistion in the Echo. The woman I spoke to there last week said that that is the only sure-fire way of getting him in the paper. Ask them to put it on a page which is not in the Classified section. In our local paper we often have large ads asking for help with lost dogs and they are big enough to really see. Need to get it in by Friday I think in case he isn't home.Will text you about this Liz! Bridgetxxxx

2012-05-02 10:19 jinny

hi i hope you dont mind me posting again but its worth me adding that after i was told he was in MDH, and travelled all the way here i was shown around by a student who didnt have a clue ,ben wasnt in the lost department or the rehoming part and no-one seamed to know where he was , one worker told me that it must have been mistake as he clearly was not there, but i insisted and said there MUST be somewhere else here that he could be , after while they reluctently took me to the sick bay , nd that is where my ben had been put as he was to stresed to stay in the lost section, i just thought i would share thst with you incase it helps xxx

2012-05-02 09:42 jobadger

Has anyone contacted MDH?

2012-05-02 09:34 jinny

also my little girls dad lives in kirkb yhe walks his dog twice a day on fields i will tell him and his family to look out for him too xx

2012-05-02 09:31 jinny

Hi liz im so sorry to here about your Ben ,i know excactly how you feel , my elderly blind little yorky ( also named ben) went missing from me about 5 years go now ,i ws worried sick and done everything you done incuding putting him in the lost and found in the liverpool Echo, 3 days later i had a call saying he had been takin to Manchester dogs home,,if there found in certain parts of liverpool or if liverpool r,s,p,c,a are full there is a chance they are takin there , it really is worth a try ,i hope with all my heart you find him soon like i found my ben and your world can start again ,your in my thoughts xxxx

2012-05-02 09:21 Vizsla55

Come on Ben sweetie, time to get home and into your mammys arms. Good luck Liz and team, will be checking for updates all day. Love, hugs and tail wags xxxx

2012-05-02 09:06 MojoPeanut

Good luck today Jenny & Liz. We are closing in on you Ben. Time for your little adventure to end and for you to come home to Mummy :) xx

2012-05-02 09:06 Meru

Will be thinking of you all - come on Ben show yourself xx

2012-05-02 08:48 DebsAndGreg

Paws & everything crossed for today. Come on Ben time to go home.

2012-05-02 08:39 Lisa123

Will be thinking of you today!! Good luck and time to come home now Ben xx

2012-05-02 08:31 Trish at K9 Dreams

GOOD LUCK TEAM BEN !!!! from all of us here in Fleet, thinking of you all. We are sending you positive thoughts, prayers, vibes, sniffs, barks & big doggie hugs.....keep your chin up Liz & come on home now Ben xxx

2012-05-02 07:40 NickyJ

GOOD LUCK today everyone - I'm following this thread from afar and so wish I was nearer to go out and help look for him. I so hope you find him today - or should I say I hope he finds YOU today Liz, as he's obviously trying his very best to get back home to you.

2012-05-02 00:54 BBKM

So happy to read your boy is on his way home. Well done everyone x

2012-05-01 23:15 liz

Thanks again to everyone for their kind words and encouragement and Jenny and Gill for putting flyers and posters everywhere. Nik thankyou too and Jan and all the lovely people on here and out there supporting me and Ben xxx

2012-05-01 23:04 jobadger

Fabulous news Liz - He's on his way home..... If I've checked this page once, I've checked it twenty times today! Good luck tomorrow. Everything crossed. xx

2012-05-01 22:45 J MO

And the sighting is not far from where I think he is hiding and where i have left all the food. Hopefully the food will keep him there until the morning whenwd go looking again

2012-05-01 22:40 liz

Thanks for update on Pete Price's show Jan too xxx

2012-05-01 22:39 liz

Sorry Jenny. Not Jemmy. Lad saw Ben 7:40 this morning on way to work.

2012-05-01 22:38 liz

Hi all, been working until 9, on phone to Jenny and Gill and sneaky one with Lynne in work, in the loos. I had no broadband until now. It's intermittent here in the middle of nowhere. Just spoke to father of lad who saw him. Spoke to lad too and he described Ben to a T saying he was just sniffing the ground constantly. Well that's Ben for you. He said he was ginger and golden and black bum and bushy tail. Warden and Jemmy coming to my house 9 ish and we are going to go find him. I asked the lad and his father to hold Ben's collar and call me as I am 2 mins round the corner in the car. Thankyou Jenny and Gill and Lynne for all your support and hard work. xxxx Oh and Chris from Huyton, the tracker man. xxxxx

2012-05-01 22:31 vixxm

Great news..keep us posted ...Come on Ben, time to go home x

2012-05-01 22:26 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

SIGHTING. A resident at Mill Park has not long called Liz. They got a leaflet through the door and phoned to say they saw him at Mill Pond at 7.40am today!!

Brilliant there has been another sighting, Liz will update us a.s.a.p. x

2012-05-01 21:09 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks a million J MO for all you are doing and for the updates on here and his group page you are a star.

Wish I was not in work, if Ben is not found by Friday I maybe able to get there and meet up for a search etc. He is becoming one famous boy.

Thanks Nik for helping out. xxx

2012-05-01 19:38 Unknown

Great job JMO - as ever. I need to concentrate on a DogLost launch now, but I'll be checking back as often as I can. MajorJet can email me if there's something that needs doing.

2012-05-01 18:49 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Well done team Ben...Tx Jmo...for leaving food out for Ben...

2012-05-01 18:27 AkitaTaz

Thank you so much J Mo x I was ready to drive all the way down there to put food out myself. Your observations are very positive. Hope you see him tonight. Stay strong Liz, we are closing in on your little man xx

2012-05-01 18:21 J MO

Been out and about again this evening and have spoken to Liz. I think when he left Mell Dam Park and where the litle girl saw him running to he has been in the wooded area at the back of the houses on Pennine Way. From that area he could easily access Pear Tree Pub where he has been signhted and the Carters Arms where he has also been sighted. No sign of him there but I did see dog mess and no human footprints. Emptied loads of senior complete dog food out for him which hopefully will encourange him to stay put. There is also water there as well. Leaflet dropped the houses on Glovers Brow and put leaflets under car wipers in the car par at the back of the shops off Glovers Way and also on the cars in the Train Station car park.

I was putting posters up around the Estate at the back of the Carter's Arms when a van stopped. I was talking to the two guys and they drive around Kirkby all day doing odd jobs so they took a poster to keep an eye out.

I really think we are closing in on him. Just got home to walk my dogs and have something to eat then will drive over there again and take my dogs with me.

Come on Ben, adverture over now lets be getting you home x

2012-05-01 18:15 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

It was a work colleague who mentioned about it being on the PETE PRICE show, he said he does not normally cover missing dogs but Ben had pulled at his heart strings. His show is aired 10.00pm until 2.00am. I did speak to Liz earlier today on the phone about it being on the radio just after I mentioned it to Nik.

MANY THANKS to PETE PRICE for airing it greatly appreciated. :) x

2012-05-01 18:12 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Caroline for the numbers these were passed to Liz in the info advice/email and I have also shared his details and photo on their site. Would be just as well to ring them and let them know he is still missing. xxx

2012-05-01 15:54 BBKM

I keep checking here, praying Ben is found safe and is home very soon x Stay strong Liz, you are all doing brilliant x

2012-05-01 15:16 Caroline28

have you tried these RSPCA and Dog Warden numbers?

Warrington Council Dog Warden Telephone 01925 442599 (0845 241 7253 outside office hours)
Halton Council Dog Warden Telephone 0151 907 8300
St Helens Council Lost Dog Register Telephone 01744 456338

2012-05-01 14:51 Unknown

Liz, sadly Radio City don't seem to have an iplayer to listen over. If anyone heard Pete Price last night, could they post here what he said to reassure Liuz.

2012-05-01 14:34 J MO

Hi Liz, I am going again tonight and am off tomorrow so I can meet you in the morning and we can go around the edge of the fields at the back of the Estate near to the pond. I will call you later.

2012-05-01 14:29 liz

Park Warden Kevin is coming to see me tomorrow. He's on the ook out and so are his dog walking colleagues and neigbours and is to check CCTV. Thanks Dominique. This is the park http://www.knowsley.gov.uk/things-to-see-and-do/parks-and-gardens/mill-dam-park.aspx

2012-05-01 14:04 liz

Thankyou everyone. I am a mess. He is my soul mate as someone just pointed out. He's just a little disabled dog who went on a jaunt and got himself lost and confused. He could be absolutely anywhere. Because of two positive sightings I feel that he was in the area up to Tuesday but he could be anywhere now. Someone said they saw him Sunday night not too far away, but nothing since.

2012-05-01 13:48 Claire and Jasper

Please try to stay positive, hun - it won't be long now. In all likelihood, IF someone has taken Ben in, it will be because they are kind and they want to help him. Most people would make allowances for any dog in his position being poorly/ a bit scared, etc and rather than be impatient with him would just want to keep him safe and warm. P.S You're doing really well, you have so much support on here and I have to say he's very beautiful! xx

2012-05-01 13:46 AkitaTaz

I have spoken to Kevin (Park Ranger for the area) on behalf of Liz. He is also a dog lover and will keep an eye out when he is around Mill Park Pond tomorrow. He said he would give you a call Liz. Maybe give him a call if he hasn't contacted you by lunch? He will also let his dog walker frinds know about Ben and get them to keep an eye open for him x

2012-05-01 13:45 MFHJane

I have shared this on my own and my rescue's Facebook pages, plus some others, I do hope he shows himself soon. Was just wondering whether there are any kind printing companies on here who might be able to do a mass lot, if he is still missing on Thursday the polling stations close by where he's been spotted really would be a great place but you'd need loads of posters to hand out, and they'd need to be colour for obvious reasons. Also I wonder whether whoever added the 'Ben missing in Kirkby' text could add another little line underneath, where it wouldn't cover any of Ben's photo, saying 19/20yo!! I'm sure it would pull at people's heart strings that he is so old and missing, like it did mine, they might be more likely to help then, because people look at the pic before reading any of the info... just a thought. Sending massive positive vibes and hugs xx

2012-05-01 13:32 liz

Thanks Nik would like to hear it x

2012-05-01 13:16 liz

I am worried because he is disabled, deaf and blind, someone might not understand this and be impatient with him. You have to pick him up sometimes to put into a car, and put your hands behind his bum to help him up the stairs. I know there are more good people than bad, but someone who has him needs to get in touch. I appreciate he is all over this site, FB and has been on the radio, which is wonderful, and the support I'm getting. It's that waiting for a call. It's killing me.

2012-05-01 13:16 Unknown

Hang in there, Liz. As I said to you on the phone, I'm sure it won't be long now. I'll see if I can get a link to Pete Price's show last night.

2012-05-01 12:25 liz

Thanks Jenny. I meant to say he's my normality when everything is bad, not everyone.

2012-05-01 12:15 liz

I can't stop crying. I'm reminiscing over photo albums. He's been there the whole of my last 17 years. He's my normality when everyone is bad. He came with me when I went to the DIY stores, and the pub. He made me laugh when I was down, playing in our garden, giving me licks and me giving him cuddles. He cheered me up when I got divorced. I miss him sobadly and want him back now!!

2012-05-01 11:55 J MO

Liz, I'm going again later. I am off to buy some complete food for him that I cane scatter at the sightings. I've got my wellies with me so will look at the back of the hosues by the pond and put food there.

2012-05-01 11:26 liz

I'm totally exhausted both mentally and physically. Thankyou to everyone so much. It's now just a waiting game.

2012-05-01 11:15 jobadger

Thinking very positive thoughts for you and Ben, Liz. Good ole Pete - trust him to come up with the goods! Hope there's more news today. Take care. xx

2012-05-01 11:08 liz

J MO, just spoke to Nik & she says that Jan heard Pete Price mention Ben on his show on Radio City.

2012-05-01 10:50 AkitaTaz

Try to get some posters to local schools, Thursday is election day so a lot of people moving through schools and community centres etc

2012-05-01 10:35 J MO

Liz, Did you check the back of the houses leading from the Mill Dam Park to the Carter Arms? Looks like he is laying low.We need to start checking the fields to see if there are any inroads by a dog. I am going later after work. Jenny

2012-05-01 10:34 liz

Nik have you got the link listen to his show?

2012-05-01 10:30 liz

Oh my gosh did he? What time? Will try to find and listen. x

2012-05-01 10:29 liz

Just spent the morning from 6 - 10 with the tracker man, doing the whole route round the sightings. No joy. I'm wondering if he's gone further afield or if someone has him. Did anyone hear back about the sighting of a dog like Ben on a rope with an elderly couple in the townie?

2012-05-01 10:26 Unknown

Pete Price - on Radio City - mentioned Ben last night. Many thanks, Pete.

2012-05-01 10:26 AkitaTaz

Just an idea but how about contacting the owners of 29459 & 23282 who had dogs lost (and found) in this area too. It was last year and 2010 I think but they may be able to help with the search??

2012-05-01 09:32 Unknown

Been in contact with the remaining presenters on Radio City and at River Radio.

2012-05-01 09:23 sidney

just wanted to add our support and hopes too, we are in North Yorkshire but wishing we were nearer to help in the search. We are so much hoping for good news today, take care x

2012-05-01 09:20 Lisajo

Each day I log in just waiting to see good news of your Ben safely back home. I pray everyday for Ben you and your family. Only wish I was closer to help with the search. X

2012-05-01 09:10 Angel

Thanks for explaining Majorjet. Well done all those out looking. I'm sure he will be found soon. x

2012-05-01 09:05 Meru

Please come home soon Ben xx

2012-05-01 08:59 Caroline28

Liz, I have been watching this closely from west sussex and just wanted to let you know of my support too, I'm sure there are many of us who say little but could help if we can. I'm willing Ben into the blue and thinking lots of get home soon thoughts. doG speed Ben xxxx

2012-05-01 08:23 Trish at K9 Dreams

Liz, I am watching this thread from Fleet, Hampshire. I so wish I was nearer and could help you. Stay strong and know that our positive thoughts and prayers are with you and Ben......Come on Ben, get into the blue !!! Take care & look after yourself. Trish, Honey and Reggie xxx

2012-05-01 06:42 vixxm

thinking of you Liz, good luck today, Chris is brilliant, if anyone can find Ben he will this afternoon xx

2012-05-01 00:21 liz

I am pretty sure he said he was heading towards chippy but would have to ring him again to check.

2012-04-30 23:39 J MO

Liz, Did the guy in the Taxi say which way Ben was going? If he was heading towards Bank Lane then after the Estate there is a track that would take him back to the pond where he had also been sighted. It would be quiet for him to rest and he would have undergrowth to hide in.

2012-04-30 23:18 liz

Great idea JMO, will listen to what tracker man says too. He's the expert. just want my teddy bear home where he belongs. His home and garden is waiting. xx

2012-04-30 23:14 J MO

Liz, whilst you are out with the tracker and starting at your house it might be a good idea to put a scent trail down. It might encourage him out and you might pick him up on the way home

2012-04-30 23:05 liz

Thankyou Jan xxx What a kind decent man he is, he's doing it voluntarily. Thankyou to all you wonderful kind decent people supporting me too. xxxx

2012-04-30 22:57 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, remember little Jake ID 15598 I mentioned the elderly totally BLIND JRT, he survived in the freezing November weather and was found o.k.

Make sure all sightings are being marked on a map and also the times of when he was sighted. Good luck with the tracker tomorrow, we are all behind you 100%. Will give you a call tomorrow. Hugs and kisses. xxx

2012-04-30 22:44 liz

thankyou both of u, he was seen along where the farms are but that was a week ago. then he was spotted at pear tree, then pingwood then mill dam, then nr carters arms, so he's got about if it is him. i am so scared that he's died of stress

2012-04-30 22:41 jobadger

Liz - I have nothing but admiration the way you're holding everything together. Stay positive - I wish I was nearer to help - you have a fabtastic team of helpers. Ben will be home -like J MO says - dogs are resilient and they never fail to surprise. xx

2012-04-30 22:34 J MO

Liz, the good news is that he hasn't strayed far. You will be surprised how resiliant dogs can be and where they can pick up food. I'll be out again tomorrow after work. Let me know how you get on with the Tracker and any specific areas you want me to concentrate on x

2012-04-30 22:23 liz

Oh and also, I put flyers through the doors of Sefton Close.

2012-04-30 22:17 liz

I spent from 10 - 2 wandering the village where he was supposedly seen. I put posters in the 2 pubs, 2 chippys, dog groomers, lamp posts, bus stops, sat in Mill Dam Park for 20 mins, stopped people in the street, inc two community officers on bicycles, a man in a wheelchair who suns himself on street, who will spread the word, kids, adults. I walked up to the Pingwood pub through the fields there and back. I got a call from a tracker who tracks exotic creatures that have escaped in undergrowth and is meeting me at 5:45am tomorrow at my house. He has cameras to set up. Jenny spoke with a woman, who rang me tonight & said a man in the area who brings in strays and knows all the dogs in the area, saw Ben trot past him towards Weaver Lane coming from the fields and cattery. This heads back to Hall Lane and Penda Drive. He seemed in an agitated state and the guy said he'd never seen him before. He couldn't remember what day so it could be the Sunday, Monday or Tuesday last week. I am concerned for Ben's health now, as if he's stressed, it could've caused him to hide out and may have passed away. Those streets he was seen trotting along are near home, but he obviously couldn't work it out and would now be very tired and hungry. Thankyou Jenny and to everyone for you constant help and support.I am still a mess and feel life has stopped still. xx

2012-04-30 21:44 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Owl. :) There is plenty of undergrowth and places for him to take cover. The open area has water sources and is a good safe place for him to be until he is found. x

2012-04-30 21:22 DogLostOwl

All searchers please remember to look under anything low to the ground which he could have crept under for shelter.

2012-04-30 20:31 J MO

Forgot to mention that I didn't have any leaflets with me to put in letterboxes but have put plenty of posters on lamp posts. Also spoke to Liz who has been out all morning but her broadband is down so she has been unable to post.

2012-04-30 20:13 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Fantastic work J MO you are a star. Weather has picked and is great tonight much better than yesterday. xxx

2012-04-30 20:10 J MO

Been out and about around Kirkby tonight. Postered around the Pond area where Ben was seen last Tuesday. Saw a collie cross standing in exactly the same area that the lady saw Ben last Tuesday. Had hold of his collar but his owner appeared and Liz confirmed that this dog was much lighter in colour than Ben. Drove around Mill Lane and the two Estates either side. Postered on lamp posts around these areas. At the bottom of Mill Lane opposite the Carter Arms saw a man walking with a collie cross very similar in colour to Ben. I followed him and pulled over to speak to him. Asked if his dopg had been out last night and he said that he never lets it off the lead so the dog that the guy in the Taxi saw last night is not the one i've seen tonight. Parked in the car park of the Carter Arms and two community officers walked past. Gave them Ben's poster and they were about to walk around the Estate behind the Carter Arms. They were going to look out for Ben. I have also postered around this Estate. Went to the park by Saxon Way where Ben went missing from. Spoke to a lady walking her dog who took some posters for her husband who is a local Councillor for Knowsley. He is out canvassing for the Elections on Thursday so will loook our for Ben on his travels. I will go again tomorrow after work. Come on Ben show yourself.

2012-04-30 20:07 jansus

just a thought- are there any homeless shelters near by? could a poster be sent there? for obvious unfortunate reasons these people are obviously around at night when he might be coming out? Also they do not have internet access so may not know what to do if they found him. Just a random thought really.

2012-04-30 19:56 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

J MO is currently out in the area, we have been liaising while J MO is out searching. Some really great people are getting on board will let J MO update everyone when back later. :) xxx

2012-04-30 19:17 DogLostHelen - Regional Co-ordinator - Norfolk, Suffolk and Cambridge

I have been following this from the start and Liz you are doing a brilliant job and you have a band of great helpers behind you, I don't know how many times I have refreshed this page today...
Come on Ben it's time you were home

2012-04-30 19:16 ClaireC

Long shot, but what about going to your local BBC news channel and asking them if they can help locate this very old boy? Tug at their heart strings. Good luck

2012-04-30 19:01 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

It was brilliant to get the news that there had been another sighting of Ben especially after the events of last night when Liz was speaking to the dog walker. :( Liz did ring me while she was with him and was so distraught as we can imagine. I also spoke to the man who could not apologise any more for upsetting Liz and stayed with her while she walked around the area. Had a long chat with Liz once she was back home and we eliminated what she had been told and the sighting that Liz had on Tuesday does look like it was definitely Ben. Liz sounded a lot better and more focused. :)

Helpers have been going to the area helping to look out for him and spread the word and postering, which is working as the sighting are now coming in. Sure it is only a matter of time before Liz gets that most important call and get to where he is or someone takes him now that they know he is being looked for.

The Liverpool Echo are not very good now at covering anything but have done occasionally. The Champion and St Helen's Star are two good papers that were advised to try and get something in, the cut off date may have gone now for this weeks edition.

Keep going Team Ben you are all doing a great job and it will pay off. Look forward to the Ben Garden party in his garden. :) x

2012-04-30 18:58 Claire and Jasper

Hi Angelmort - I read Majorjet's comment as meaning something like 'this dog's got a chip and it's not Ben's chip'. I may be wrong (it has been known ;))

2012-04-30 18:51 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Only just logging on myself to catch up with posts.

Angelmort, the found dog which was a possible match for Ben had a different chip number than Ben. Liz has reported Ben missing to the Chip Co and his chip is checked regularly. I've called into Halewood RSPCA myself to look around the kennels and asked about the found one, Liz had also been in and checked. xxx

2012-04-30 16:34 Angel

Only just reading through this thread. I don’t want to dismiss any of the sightings, but I’m confused by postings from 24th April. Majorjet writes that the dog handed into the vets, thought to be Ben, couldn’t have been because that dog was chipped. But Liz quotes Bens chip number earlier that day in one of her postings, so Ben must be chipped. As Ben was an adult when Liz got him, was he chipped pre Liz? Liz, have you rung the chip company to report Ben missing but also, have you checked they have the correct contact details for you? Really, really hope Ben’s home soon. X

2012-04-30 14:36 DogLostRiverlady

No joy with the echo either....odd coz other papers follow us. Will tweet to a few others then.

2012-04-30 14:03 Unknown

Tried to get this story out to a few more places. Very disappointed with the Echo as they are running a piece on three dogs that need rehoming rather than a story on Ben. (So 'disappointed' that I've contacted the exec ed.)

2012-04-30 13:35 jobadger

liz - it might be worth having a word with the youths hanging around the shops. I've had invaluable help from a lad who I always thought a trouble-maker - but he has a heart of gold. They may have seen Ben in his travels.

2012-04-30 12:58 MojoPeanut

J Mo, please keep a list of the streets that you leaflet. I intend to go out tomorrow night with my friend to leaflet too so would be good to know what streets have already been done - Gill xx

2012-04-30 11:25 Unknown

I'm not sure that media coverage is what's needed here. Surely, a decent search party will bring better rewards ?

2012-04-30 10:15 liz

Ok well I am going in a moment to do the same and walk round back of pubs back to pond as apparently there is a walk way there too. Thankyou x

2012-04-30 10:08 J MO

Liz, I will be there about 4.30 so will dry round and look in the pub car parks and leaflet drop the houses around there.

2012-04-30 09:31 liz

J MO The lane is called Glovers Brow. My friend from work says to look round the backs of the pubs which lead back to the pond. I am going to have some food first, shower and get dressed and go looking and putting posters up again in that area. I have to go to work at 5 all week this week, which is the time he was seen.

2012-04-30 09:25 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Oh good news...Ben is wandering out to scavenge for food by the sound of it...probably the smell of the pubs kitchen is attracting Ben...

2012-04-30 09:13 J MO

Liz, What street was Ben seen wandering around? I will go down there aafter work. Now that thw rain has stopped it will e a good idea to scent trail from the pond to your house. Also you could put some scent items around the pond area. The taxi driver may have seen the poster that we put up yesterday. The poters are being seen and read which is a good thing.

2012-04-30 08:40 AkitaTaz

Liz, this is a good positive thing, I have posted on your facebook pretty much the same thing as wensmum has said below. Is there any smell that Ben would associate with you? Cooking sausages etc? I really do think that a disposable BBQ in the area near the pond where he seems to be staying would bring him out to you x

2012-04-30 07:09 liz

Thanku wensmum

2012-04-30 07:07 liz

The guy was in a taxi and didn't take much notice as he was tired, but saw my post on here and rang me. If Ben is wandering the streets around there it means he's not far from the pond and park he was seen at on Tuesday.

2012-04-30 07:04 liz

Just had a call from someone who is on doglost and said he thought he saw Ben wandering along the road on his own near the Carters pub and shops around 5pm.

2012-04-30 07:04 wensmum

Oh Liz, this is so hard for you. But - druggies would sell dogs on to people who want dogs - like dogs get sold in pubs and car boots - usually to unthinking but kind hearted people.Really well done getting the police interested.
Don't read too much into the posters thing - kids take them down - they say "reward" - I hate to say it, but other dog walkers take them down - so they have the picture to compare with dogs they meet - again kind heated but unthinking - council people take them down - there are places where posters won't stay up for 24 hours. Have you got someone who can get posters into all the local pubs? They are usually good about putting them up - also ask at houses nearby where posters go if they would display in their windows/cars. Thinking of you

2012-04-30 06:32 liz

The man who had seen the collie in Northwood rang and we chatted for 10 mins and established it wasn't him.

2012-04-30 06:22 liz

I was on the field again last night with sausages in a bag, and a dog walker put the fear of God into me. He said there are druggies waiting in bushes to nab dogs then sell them on for drugs. That explains why he vanished. At the same spot that he disappeared, two posters were taken down within hours of me putting them up on the same day. The man said, this will be whoever has them. Hysterical, I rang the police and put the man onto them who then realised the impact of what he'd said to me, and how he had affected me. They have now taken this seriously and took his details. He accompanied me on my walk again to Charlotte's Pagsy, which Deb will know, then from there, as we were looking, I rang the woman who saw him Tuesday and we went over it again and she is 100% sure it was him from the flyer through her door. We had talked about his ears the day before and she said they weren't up or down, just horizontal, like a wing nut, which was one of his nicknames. I just don't know what to think. He isn't in any of the areas as I've been there everyday. If some druggie has him, what has been his fate? Why would you take down his posters everytime they're up? I know there are gangs of youths who hang round the shops, 10 mins walk round corner. One poster has the phone numbers ripped out. The one opposite hasn't been touched. I don't know how to read into any of this. I am going to ring the park wardens at 9. I've slept on settee two nights in a row, and am feeling sick all over again. My friend from work knocked on my door somewhere around 1am, she had been driving round for me after finished work, on a late shift. She had seen my sausages put out the front door untouched. (They still are now).

2012-04-29 21:29 smileyt

I keep checking in too. I'm too far away to offer help but I'm rooting for you. I have two oldies myself and I really feel for you. I do hope with all my heart that you find him soon. xxx

2012-04-29 20:38 Jane

I keep checking this page too to see if Ben is home yet. I don't live in the North West so cannot help in any search but I with you in spirit. I can see how much you love him, and he looks like such a lovely, cuddly boy. Good luck and my thoughts are with you xxx

2012-04-29 19:26 jobadger

Jansus has a point liz - has anyone dropped any posters round the schools? Kids are brilliant for coming up with news. xx

2012-04-29 17:25 Unknown

I am still waiting for this guy to reply to my P/M from last night..wish he would hurry up !!! All Paws Crossed !! xxx

2012-04-29 17:21 jansus

me too. I keep checking in to see if there is any news. You know when you do the same thing every day and you sort of go into automatic mode ( I sometimes think did I let the dog in or is he still in the garden , when I know deep down that I have) are you sure you followed him down the road and that he did not go the opposite way? I am sure that you have Searched all areas any way -but sometimes it helps to go back to the begining and think is there anyway in the opposite direction that he could have gone that might be that he is hidden? Like you say if you were that close behind him there can not be many places he coud have gone - so it makes sense that someone perhaps saw him and thought he was on his own? If he is like my dog -just a friendly word and he would walk with anyone - so hopefully he is just being looked after somewhere close. Wishing you all the best with your search and hope you get some news soon. Spreading the word to school children is a good idea as they will do anything for a bit of pocket money so may be very helpful. Thinking of you .

2012-04-29 16:32 Lisa123

Hi Liz, I keep checking Ben's page. I just wish I was closer to help you in your search but it does look like J MO is being a great support to you. One thing is for sure we can all see how much you love your boy!! Sending you a very big hug and hope he is home very soon hun xxx

2012-04-29 16:21 emmalouise

Liz, tweet's on twitter are basically like a huge game of chinese whispers, someone says something 'missing ben' and asks all their friends to say it too
so basically ben is pretty famous right now!
really hope he's home soon x

2012-04-29 16:21 emmalouise

Liz, tweet's on twitter are basically like a huge game of chinese whispers, someone says something 'missing ben' and asks all their friends to say it too
so basically ben is pretty famous right now!
really hope he's home soon x

2012-04-29 15:38 liz

Another thought, is that he could be stuck somewhere as his back legs give way, he does the splits on shiny surfaces and can't get up. His front legs were starting to do the same. He may be so weak and tired he hasn't the strength to get up and walk.

2012-04-29 15:33 liz

Thankyou Jen. I am feeling a bit more upbeat and all of you on here have made me feel like I'm not on my own with this.

2012-04-29 15:21 J MO

I think you will get some calls from the posters in Townie. He has either been taken in or he is sheltering in one of the kid's dens in the woodland area. You could see flatten grass into these dens had been flattened. Keep positive he is out there waiting for you. Jen

2012-04-29 15:09 liz

I haven't got twitter Jayne, what are people saying? Anyone seen him around my area? I've gone over it and over it in my head and I can't get over what happened. I went to get his lead, the door was open, he dashed past me as usual, I locked the door, followed him down the street to the field, went to find him in his usual place in the bushes on field and he had vanished.

2012-04-29 14:47 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Wow 770 tweets...that must be a record for us...all willing Ben to get home.

2012-04-29 14:41 jobadger

I'm glad you're feeling more positive liz - your boy will be home - I do think someone has taken him in. One person - one poster - one phone call! xx

2012-04-29 14:34 liz

Thankyou Frankie B. Jenny has been to the Southport RSPCA and the dog was only young. They don't take in stray. At least the phone calls have started. One man rang me when I was out from yesterday and asked my mum if I had found him and that he would keep looking.

2012-04-29 14:26 FrankieB

What a beautiful boy. I hope he's found soon.

2012-04-29 14:20 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Well done Liz and J MO the weather today is very wet and fowl. :( At least you can now eliminate the sighted dog and concentrate on the other one that was reported to Tri's Mum. We just want that one person to see his details and make that most important call.

Southport RSPCA are a Rehoming RSPCA and if Ben has been handed in he would be taken to Halewood RSPCA. Sometimes finders do report to their nearest RSPCA or boarding kennels and where he has gone missing does border with Sefton and there are kennels in the area. Come on Ben where are you? xxx

2012-04-29 14:12 liz

Hi everyone, thankyou so much. I've been out with Jenny all morning and we are both drowned rats. We went through every house on Kennel Worth Rd but we discovered the dog like Ben belonged to a lady who showed us. He was bigger and darker than Ben and walked with stiff back legs. She said her grandson walks him so that is who the man would've seen. We then went into Kirkby police station and the kind officer put his poster up in there. Then we trooped all round Kirkby townie putting into the pound shop and one of the bookies. The rest wouldn't, so we put some outside, front of market, on poles, on empty shop wnidows. We then walked all over looking in the dens on both Millenium Parks, me waving my sausages about, and asking everyone we saw, on the way. I've just had a call, as Jenny was sitting in her car, that a man saw a dog like Ben in Southport RSPCA off Newcutt Lane. Jenny is going there now. Fingers crossed. I did cry a lot when we were out, and Jenny kept me going, but now I feel a bit more positive. Thankyou so much Jenny. Thanks to everyone on here for giving me so much support and positivity. xxxxxx

2012-04-29 13:52 DogLostRiverlady

Have tweeted to Liverpool Echo....it would be good if they retweeted to their 30,000 followers.

2012-04-29 12:20 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Well done ladies...

2012-04-29 10:04 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz and helper J MO are in the area today spreading the word and will be going to Kirkby Town Centre where he was reported sighted. Good luck today. :) x

Thanks wensmum for putting his details on vets greatly appreciated, some maybe the ones I alerted when sharing his details, but great they know he is still missing. I've posted the link to his fb group below. xxx

2012-04-29 10:00 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

https://www.facebook.com/groups/177058762416397/

Liz, we just need the right person to know he is missing and not an abandoned stray. All the exit/entries and dog bins should be posted. By now he could well of been taken in and being looked after. Contact the KMBC Park Wardens (ring the numbers on the park name boards). Check if posters are being taken down. Leave a poster as many places you can, especially takeaways, ask for a poster to be displayed on the drive through window, very often they will let you put a smaller poster up.

You have so much support which is great. Good luck today. Lots of love. xxx

2012-04-29 08:46 liz

wensmum, yes he has his own prifle, ben jennette

2012-04-29 07:16 wensmum

Hang in there Liz, you have a great team. Have put him on all Liverpool vets I can find with fb pages - please, has he got his own fb page we can link to?

2012-04-28 22:35 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Nik, thanks for helping out greatly appreciated. I have had a message re a missing Westie in the Liverpool area that was aired on BBC Radio Merseyside at lunch time yesterday, so with a bit of luck they may mention Ben. :) x

2012-04-28 22:16 J MO

Nik, try Dave Kelly DJ on Radio City. He talks about his dog a lot on the radio

2012-04-28 21:52 liz

Wow I am so touched by you all. Thankyou so much. I am overwhelmed. I've been out everyday, every night, except today where I had to do a speeding awareness course. Went out with cooked sausages in a bag f ull of holes wafting it about. Then Deb rang me about a possible siting and we met up and went round the chippy and pizza place.

2012-04-28 21:36 Unknown

The Liverpool Echo news team were in an editorial meeting when I phoned on Friday, so I shall be back onto them on Monday. In the meantime, I have contacted all the broadcasters on BBC Radio Merseyside who had shows Fri evening to Sunday evening. I usually manage to hit at least one person who is a dog lover/owner and who will slide in a mention when a producer isn't listening. I'll do a bit more tomorrow.

2012-04-28 21:34 Unknown

On Tuesday in the townie I saw an old couple with a dog similar to that I tried to gie it some biscuits out of my pocket it refused them but the old couple didn't have a proper lead just a piece of rope.....THIS GUY SENT ME THIS MESSAGE AN HOUR AGO !! Tri's Mum.. xxx

2012-04-28 21:23 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Helper has been sent a message from a man who said he was in Kennelwood Chippy in Northwood and said he was certain he had just seen the dog that was missing., he said he was with a boy of about 10 and the dog seemed to have a little trouble walking and the kid was kinda pulling him along, he said he must live local because he drove around and around looking for him but he had disappeared............

Liz and friend have been to the area and posted the Chippy and Pizza place! Chippy lady did say that a lad lives opposite with a very similar dog x

2012-04-28 20:30 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks J MO for your help today. I have not long got back from the area myself, it is a very good area for him to be in and if he is still out there as J MO says plenty of places for him to hide up. Walked around the open space area for 2 hours. Did not see any posters around the walking area, but Liz did say some that had been put up at the entrance where Ben went missing from had been taken down!!

There are plenty of dog bins which are a good place to poster and lots of entry/exits. Spoke to quite a few dog walkers and handed them DL cards to keep, some did know about Ben. Seen some posters on way out of Saxon Way on the lampposts and there was a man with his dog and some children looking at it, spoke to them about Ben. A group of children I spoke to knew about Ben.

Called into Halewood RSPCA this afternoon and looked around the kennels, the staff are well aware of Ben and mentioned that Liz had been in. Kennels will keep being checked.

Posted a few DL cards through Liz's door and will try and meet up with her tomorrow. We did speak to each other while I was in the area. x

2012-04-28 17:47 Miss Marple

Hold on Liz, the alert has practically gone global. Ben is hopefully with some well-meaning/caring but niaive person who cannot realise the panic and distress you are feeling. We anxiously await good news. xxx New Brighton

2012-04-28 13:57 J MO

Just got home after driving around and postering for 2 hours. No sightings but plenty of places to hide in the park. There is also water running through the park so plenty of opportunity for Ben to have a drink. I think he is hiding in the undergrowth in the day and coming out at night. Spoke to dog walkers in the park that didn't know about Ben. Loads of posters about and definately a lot more people around today than the last 2 days so hopefully there will be a sighting over the weekend. Going back 2moro

2012-04-28 09:10 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz, good luck with your course today. Easier said than done but do try and get some rest and something to eat you need your strength to find your boy.

I spoke to HALEWOOD RSPCA again yesterday and he not been handed in. The other kennels that need to be checked regularly are LEIGH CATS & DOG'S HOME, both kennels were emailed a DogLost poster on 25.4.12 (see my post on that date). I will call into Halewood RSPCA over the weekend to check the kennels and for other NW dog's on DogLost. xx

2012-04-28 08:45 liz

My brother in America, used google map and said the stream that runs from my house to where he was seen means he's staying nearby. Gill has been going in and looking in Halewood. x

2012-04-28 08:43 liz

Thanks JoBadger, I just spoke to lady who saw him this week and she says she definitely knows it's him. He was just standing there in a trance. I like to think he's hiding out waiting for food. I've called police who have no reports of dead or injured dogs, nor emergency vets, so that's something. I have to go and do speeding awareness course today and then tea at my parents and my mum is coming to stay to keep me company at this sad and stressful time. I await the phone calls with bated breath.

2012-04-28 08:13 jobadger

Please don't despair liz - dogs never fail to surprise. Today is a new day - there are tons of people rooting for you and the gorgeous boy - there'll be people searching this weekend and with it being the weekend, there'll be more folks out and about. Have you rung Halewood recently? I wish I were nearer - I know all the places you're talking about - he'll be home and you can smother him with kisses - someone will have taken him in - the weather wasn't too clever a couple of days ago. Take care. xx

2012-04-28 07:55 liz

Just put last of flyers all round my estate. I can't stop crying. Talked to dog walkers who have seen nothing. I have posters everywhere too. I sort of feel like he's passed away now. He could not have survived in his condition for a week. There's been nothing definite and he shot off so fast the night I lost him, he could've gone anywhere. I so regret not taking him for a walk when I came home to feed him, then I would not have felt guilty when I came home later and he shot off before I could put him on the lead.

2012-04-27 23:44 liz

Thanks Gill. JMO there is a round trip from Pear Tree through fields to Millenium Park/Mill Park Farm. Then through park to roundabout towards Johnny Todd pub which is where two kids said they saw him headed. Not seen anything and have been out all day and night. I am feeling very despondent at this stage & feel like it's all futile as he may or may not have been seen. Where is he?????

2012-04-27 23:40 liz

Been driving around and walking again, so exhausted. No sign. The community police think that the dog sighted was another one which was re united with it's owner today. I am convinced it was him. Where else would he be? He went too far so he couldn't find his way home, that's all isn't it? Nothing sinister????

2012-04-27 21:54 J MO

Liz, where exactly are you talking about. Tower Hill to the train station? I will go sometime 2moro to look and put more posters up

2012-04-27 21:53 MojoPeanut

He's out there somewhere Liz trying to get back to u. Stay positive and I will try and meet up with u again on Sunday. Hoping he is home by then though - Gill xx

2012-04-27 21:23 liz

Gill he seemed to trot off towards park on right hand side of where roundabout is. Did you notice I went that way tonight where we seperated at the roundabout? xx will go looking again tomorrow morning but have this stupid speed awareness test all afternoon.

2012-04-27 21:21 liz

Yes and big thanks to Gill & Julie and Deb for spending all their evening with me. xxx

2012-04-27 21:20 liz

Just realised, Ben amybe following my scent as I walk up and down that road for work. OMG. I am waiting for my friend to finish work and meet me round there to go looking again. I can't sit at home doing nothing when the police and wardens are clearly not interested.

2012-04-27 21:17 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Visi for posting the details.

MojoPeanut you do not live far from me and if you let me know when you are able to go out again I maybe able to go with you. I have emailed you the various size posters and replied to your reply email.

THANKS A MILLION for going out looking for him.

J MO you are fantastic and always there to help as usual. I've also emailed you the various size posters. x

2012-04-27 21:15 NickyJ

Everything crossed for you here x

2012-04-27 21:14 J MO

Great news that there have been some sightings in the same area. It shows he is not moving too far away. I will be out tomorrow looking for him. I will head for the train station and park area

2012-04-27 21:14 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz this sounds really promising, great the posters are working and you are getting the feedback. You are doing fantastic and your boy is so lucky to have a mum like you who cares so much for him. :) x

2012-04-27 21:07 liz

Got a response from someone who clearly identified Ben and was standing two feet from him. Exactly like his photo, red collar and silver tag. He was staring in a trance, which is one of his symptoms and she assumed he had seen a mouse. A little girl confirmed she had seen him running away from pond in direction of home. Two teenage boys outside train station said they saw him last night trotting past on his own towards roundabout but turned right into a lane. I believe them as one said he thought he was going to bite him, which Ben wouldn't. He noticed his distinctive coat from photograph. They went off to find him for me, knowing there would be a reward. I've been out all day since 8am and going out again at 9.

2012-04-27 20:49 Visi

Maybe also try The Reporter, http://www.sthelensreporter.co.uk/ this is another free paper that comes through the door every week or so.

2012-04-27 20:31 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://www.champnews.com/contacts/contacts_newsed.asp

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/

Thanks everyone for your continued support you are all stars.

The LIVERPOOL ECHO is the main paper that would cover the area and if they would do an actual story with a photo that would be great. We do struggle to get anything in The Echo but due to the age of Ben and all the interest from everyone who is helping to look out for him it may pull on their draw strings!!!

There used to a free paper covering Merseyside which I used to deliver in South Liverpool on a weekly basis, this paper is now included in the Tuesday edition of the Liverpool Echo. It did cover a large part of Merseyside and surrounding area. Depending which area it was it had a different name, The St Helen's Star is one of them and is still an independent paper.

Other papers that would be great to get something in is THE CHAMPION and also THE ST HELENS STAR, all these papers have brought results in the past. Getting a photo in would be the best option and most effective for spreading the word.

Thanks Nik for posting on Ben's page and offering your help which is very much valued. :) xxx

2012-04-27 17:27 DogLostJackalee (Kathryn) - Area Co-ordinator - Greater Manchester

Thanks Nik and J MO :) The sightings of Ben on Monday were by the fish pond in Millenium Park. liz is meeting up with a couple of helpers this evening so I have sent them the scenting and plotting instructions. The support liz is receiving has been fantastic. Hundreds of posters and flyers have been printed out by people and are being distributed in the area. I've asked liz to list the places Ben has been sighted, see if we can build up a picture of his movements. Good Luck tonight everybody :)

2012-04-27 16:20 Unknown

And a defunct, political one at that !!!

2012-04-27 15:49 J MO

Kirkby Times seems to bs an internet newspaper so I've just emailed them with Ben's poster. Not had a response from them.

2012-04-27 15:37 Unknown

Been onto Echo & BBC Merseyside. J Mo, any response from Kirkby Times ?

2012-04-27 15:26 J MO

Nil, I have emailed Ben's details to the Kirkby Times. The main newspaper is the Liverpool Echo and they never seem to put missing dogs in the paper. We have had some joy with Granada Reports in the past.

2012-04-27 15:01 Unknown

20 yrs old: Poor thing. I think you need a bit of help here. Let me see what I can do with the media.

2012-04-27 14:14 DogLostRiverlady

still circulating on twitter.

2012-04-27 14:07 Unknown

Come on Ben - where are you?

2012-04-27 13:10 J MO

Just got back from postering. Put loads of posters up and also saw loads of posters which is excellant. You can clearly see the posters on both sides of the main road and through the Estate. I tried to find the areas where the dogs are walked and spoke to a couple of dog walkers who will look out for Ben. I should be ok to leaflet drop tomorrow. What time are you starting and wheteabouts? Hope the call brings good news

2012-04-27 13:02 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

While I was on the phone to Liz she had a call, it was from someone who said they seen Ben on Monday, Liz is on her way to see the caller. Good luck Liz you sound a lot better. :) x

2012-04-27 12:12 MojoPeanut

J MO, I have printed off 200+ mail drop leaflets to post in letterboxes. Just looking for someone to come with me to help now :) Fancy meeting up this weekend to cover some local streets? I have also put an appeal for help with this on Bens fb page http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/177058762416397/

2012-04-27 10:14 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks to the RSPCA, have replied - no problem giving details out have asked to also include HQ details. X

2012-04-27 10:11 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Posting from my phone. I've had another reply from one of the RSPCA's (WIGAN):

Thanks for your e mail.  I have forwarded the details of Ben to the RSPCA national lost and found register.  I have put your e mail address as the contact, as well as the phone number.  Could you let me know if you are happy for details to be given to any member of the public who may have information.  This is important, in order for us to comply with data protection.
 
I hope Ben is found very soon – please let me know.
 
Kind regards.

2012-04-27 10:11 J MO

I am just printing off loads of posters and then will go over there. I think I know where these parks are but definately know where the Pear Inn is. I am using plastic folders for the posters so will put them outside. Do we want to arrange a leaflet drop in the Estate nead the parks? If so can we agree which streets to do. I don't mind printing of more posters but not sure of the size of the Estate.

2012-04-27 08:17 BaileyP

I think that might work in our favour Liz as if someone has taken him and they are getting impatient they may put him out of hand him in rather than keep him.

PLEASE EAT!!!!!!!! You will make yourself so weak that you won't be able to walk around looking for him. You need to get as much energy inside as possible as you have a very busy weekend ahead of you!!

I have emailed some of the local schools (Ravenscroft and St Peters and Pauls) with his details and poster and asked them to tell the children and parents to look out for him this weekend.

Now go and eat something!!!! xxxxxxxHugs

2012-04-26 23:27 liz

Saxon Green off Saxon Way. They lead to the Pagsys which we've searched. I was there all day and so were others. All week my neighbours helped me search too. I've had a half a sandwich and a bowl of soup in 4 days. I just feel sick all the time. I'm worried someone is being impatient with him being deaf, blind, slow and incontinent.

2012-04-26 23:07 J MO

Whereabouts are the parks in relation to the Pear Tree? I should be able to go out looking tomorrow

2012-04-26 23:01 liz

Radio station won't do it. I've just been out with Helen and Julie in both parks. I retraced the steps when I last saw him last weekend. We are all soaking wet and they suggested I go to the schools and get them to give the kids copies of the posters to take home and mention he needs his medication.

2012-04-26 20:51 vixxm

Have read about poor Ben on Facebook (Beverley Cuddys link) I am too far away to help search but I just want you to know I am thinking of you and willing Ben to come home, just one thought, the Beardie rescue sometimes light barbeques and cook meat where the dog has gone missing in the hope that the smell of the food will bring them out, he must be hungry, may be worth a shot, x

2012-04-26 16:15 Visi

Hope he turns up, the weather is absolutely foul today.

2012-04-26 13:35 Madhound

Sorry not checked all the comments below but have you asked Radio Merseyside & Real Radio to mention it on their shows?

2012-04-26 12:10 J MO

I have been driving around Prescot Road and I zm currently at the Pear Tree car park. No sign but have noticed a number of footpaths off Bank Lane. Will continue looking

2012-04-26 11:03 liz

Thankyou again for your lovely support. I've just had a call from animal warden who confirmed they have the poster, mine haven't arrived in post yet as it doesn't come until lunchtime. She suggests we have a patrol from 6pm onward whilst it's still light along that road. What does anyone think? Shall we do a rota along main road where Pear Tree is and Farm shop? I think he is sleeping in bushes now, then coming out later to scavenge people's bins. I will be patrolling when post comes although I have a house viewing at 2.30. Then I will patrol again after until I have to leave for work at 4.30. I am off work tomorrow so can patrol all day tomorrow.

2012-04-26 09:40 J MO

I'm not that far away but don't know the area well. Whereabouts have the sightings been? Is there a landmark near that I can pick up on the map search? I will try and drive around 2moro or over the weekend

2012-04-26 09:00 jobadger

I've been following this gorgeous lad from the beginning - I know it's a nightmare liz, but stay positive - if sightings are coming in then you're doing all the right things. So many people are searching - stay strong - he'll need you when he comes home. xx

2012-04-26 08:46 liz

I've been out since 6am looking everywhere near where he was sighted. I'e knocked on farmer's doors. I've looked in barns. Horse's shelters, tractor diggers. No sign whatsoever. One woman farmer said she was out at 7.30 last night across the fields & her alsations would've found him and was v cynical which upset me, saying she didn't see a dog in that vicinity but someone else says she has a dog like Ben so it could've been him. I just rang Dominique feeling hopeless again and crying. I had the best night's sleep last night full of hope that I would find him, but now I feel like it's a nightmare all over again. I have to go to a counsellin session now and if the leaflets and posters come by the time I am back, I can go round posting them. Thanks again, I'm stll trying to be optimistic he's out there. xx

2012-04-25 23:06 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Great there has been sightings of him, just the news Liz needs. There are so many people helping and supporting Liz which is fantastic. Keep up the great work everyone. xxx

2012-04-25 23:05 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Just POSTED by Liz on his group page after being out searching:

Thank you all of you, this has given me hope. He was spotted in areas we go to, the arm shop, the fields, the cottages across from the Pear Tree Pub where we sit outside and I give him bits of meat off my plate. We didn't see him but this sounds like he is sticking to the area.

2012-04-25 23:00 liver1047

posted on docrafts craft website, come on ben please come home,,,

2012-04-25 21:31 liz

I got a call at work and couldn'tanswer from an 0203 number but you can't call it back

2012-04-25 21:07 dallas

I live facing the park and will keep my eyes wide open! If Liz is going out to search tonight, I can go along with her? Has anybody checked round by the pond and by the little stream? I will update my fb status now x

2012-04-25 21:06 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

https://www.facebook.com/groups/177058762416397/ Link to his group.

Please also keep his DogLost page up to date. x

2012-04-25 20:48 mumstaxi

Missing ben 20 years old liverpool this is bens fb page. please is there anyone local to l33 that could help with postering spreading the word and searching we need to arrange asap thank you

2012-04-25 20:39 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

http://www.champnews.com/contacts/contacts_newsed.asp

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/

Thanks everyone for your continued support you are all stars.

The LIVERPOOL ECHO is the main paper that would cover the area and if they would do an actual story with a photo that would be great. There used to a free paper covering Merseyside which I used to deliver in South Liverpool on a weekly basis, this paper is now included in the Tuesday edition of the Liverpool Echo.

Other papers that would be great to get something in is THE CHAMPION and also THE ST HELENS STAR, all these papers have brought results in the past. Getting a photo in would be the best option and most effective for spreading the word.

http://www.any-uk-vet.co.uk/ To find vets in the area. The link has been sent to Liz in the info/advice email along with contact numbers for kennels. If anyone has the time and can ring around vets to double check that would be a big help.

I have emailed some vets, RSPCA's, DW's, Dog's Trust, Dog Training Clubs, and Rescue Kennels his posters. x

2012-04-25 20:38 NADIA

in his fb page there is a list of all places been contacted and postered xxxx

2012-04-25 20:31 BaileyP

Hi Janni0706 I rang the Echo newsdesk today and pleaded with them to run the story. She said that they are innundated with lost dogs all the time and it wouldn't be fair to choose Ben!! I pointed out his age and disabiliites but she wasn't having any of it - said to email details to them with Liz's contact details and they would 'perhaps' put it in the free paper next Tuesday if we get it to them by Friday. I really couldn't have tried harder - said I was from miles away trying to help etc etc. She suggested an advert as it can definitely go in whereas a write up won't!! If you can try them again that would be great - you may get a more dog friendly person on the other end of the line!!!! Have tried local tv and radio stations too - all contacted today. The more we can all do the better - Liz is feeling really desperate.

If there is anyone local who can go around the area looking at places he might be hiding I'm sure she'd be very grateful.

2012-04-25 20:27 NickyJ

Have all local Vets been contacted or sent posters? I will start looking some up tonight and emailing posters.

2012-04-25 20:09 janni0706

HAVE POSTED THIS TO THE LIVERPOOL ECHO ON FACEBOOK AND ASKED IF THEY COULD PRINT THE STORY http://www.facebook.com/theliverpoolecho

2012-04-25 20:05 janni0706

Liz and BaileyP I am sure papers will run this as front page news, you wouldn't need an ad. I will contact them again. I live in St Helens nine miles away but we have a local paper. What is the local paper for Kirkby, do you have one? I am sure they would run this for free. Have you been to local vets with posters, dog walkers may see the poster. Dogs have been found this way before.

2012-04-25 19:26 NADIA

hey have created a group called missing ben 20 years old liverpool xxxx

2012-04-25 15:43 liz

That would be fab, we will speak about the ad later. Do you know how much ad is. I don't have a lot of money, but it would be worth it.
I'd like to hear what the pet detective has to say, but again, I only work part time on a temporary contract and living off redundancy money too. I'm not having a lot of luck! But thanks again and speak later. xxx

2012-04-25 15:17 BaileyP

Have phoned Liverpool Echo they will run a lost advert if you want but you will need to pay for it. I think that would be a great idea - the deadline is Friday so we can get a good sized ad in the local papers. Will discuss with you later. x

Also tried to get through to The Pet Detective who helped a local family here find their dog. They have a website with a contact phone number. It will be worth ringing them too. I have posted Ben's details on their Facebook page.

2012-04-25 15:08 liz

thankyou both of you and speak later BaileyP.

2012-04-25 14:31 BaileyP

I'll ring you this evening after 9.

2012-04-25 13:22 MojoPeanut

I am not far away in Halewood. I will be sure to keep my eyes open on my walks with my dogs. I will also print some posters and get them up in Huyton village. Hoping he is cuddled up in front of someones fire xx

2012-04-25 13:08 liz

Thankyou BaileyP. I am so appreciative of what you are doing for me and Ben and everyone else on here. I am crying too much right now to write anymore. Speak later. I work from 5 - 9 so won't be able to talk until I get in after 9. x

2012-04-25 12:53 BaileyP

Sorry I meant to say - don't worry about him being attacked by a fox - very unllikely. I would think that he has curled up in a little safe place somewhere. he has probably worn himself out wandering around. Last year I helped look for a very old sheltie in London who had wandered off like Ben. he was found MILES away and it was thought that he'd just kept walking in the wrong direction as he was so disorientated. You really do need to poster far and wide. Keep going!!!!!text you later! xx

2012-04-25 12:49 BaileyP

Have emailed the local BBC tv station about him. If you feel strong enough to do it try ringing local radio stations yourself and pleading with them to mention him. A dog near here went missing a few weeks ago and we got him mentioned on radio, in the papers and there were hundreds of posters every where - they got him back!! I think we should contact a national newspaper - I'm at work at the moment but when I get home in an hour I will see if I can get a paper like The Sun or Daily Mail to do an article on him. We really need some of the media to get involved to get him really well known. He may have travelled a bit further than you think and people all around need to know of his plight. Have you been house to house in the area he disappeared from. If there is someone there who could go with you literally knock on as many doors as possible. schools, local businesses. A lot of leg work but the more people that know about him the better.

Are there any lakes/ponds/rivers around that he could have s;ipped into?

Please don't give up!! He needs you out there telling the world and his wife that he is lost. I have two blind dogs and one is blind and deaf so I know how they react - I wish I could be there to support you. I will text you later and maybe we can have a chat on the phone if you would like some moral support.
Bridgetxx

2012-04-25 12:24 liz

I can't stop crying. Been looking through photo albums. New Year staying in together, him getting all excitable with the horses on the farm and jumping around them. I just found out, wardens won't go get them if they are simply trotting along the road or a field, only if they are enclosed. How stupid is that? He looks like a little ginger fox if anyone sees him scuttling round. There are foxes round here. I'm worried he's injured and a fox has attacked him because he is older and weaker. He really struggles to get up stairs with those back legs and falls down them. I have cushions at the bottom of the stairs or sleep downstairs sometimes with him. He has a healthy heart according to the vet, it's just his parkinsons symptoms. He can still be alert but is almost blind and sometimes goes into a trance. If you come up behind him, he jumps as he's deaf too. Thankyou everyone for helping. I am absolutely desperate. He's too vulnerable to be out there on his own and is an absolute innocent and trusting. xxx

2012-04-25 10:48 AkitaTaz

Liz when you get the posters take some round to the local school, kids are great at letting info slip if they have suddenly got a new dog and also put some on the nearest main road near to a junction where cars are slowing down. He may not have gone that far put people are seeing the posters.

2012-04-25 10:18 DogLostRiverlady

still circulating Ben on twitter.

2012-04-25 08:07 NickyJ

I think that it would be a good idea to get other dog walkers in your area involved - if they are walking the fileds and parks everyday maybe they can cover certain areas to make sure as wider area as possible is checked.
With his age he must be well known to fellow dogs and their owners!

Also, I was thinking, although he is deaf, I wonder if he can still hear high frequency sounds? Sounds so high pitched they're out of our hearing range. If you have a 'silent' dog whistle it might be worth trying it because even dogs who don't bark might still howl or bark in response or if they're stuck somehwere.

Poster, poster, poster around your area and get all those other dog walkers out searching. Nx

2012-04-25 07:28 Rubster

Liz, its hard but try & stay strong. I live in Suffolk so the best I can do is to keep badgering the facebook pages with Bens doglost link. Hugs to you x

2012-04-25 06:52 liz

The papers and radio will give out their direct number rather than mine, then contact me. xx

2012-04-25 06:47 liz

BaileyP I am so touched that I am crying again. I have actually emailed the poster to the Liverpool Echo. Thankyou so much for this. I have Dominique doing posters for me also. Everyone is so kind. xx

2012-04-25 06:09 BaileyP

Have started emailing - this is what I've sent to radio merseyside so far:

Dear Radio Merseyside
I am contacting you in desperation as a very old dog called Ben (aged TWENTY) has become lost in Kirkby and his owner is absolutely distraught. I live in Hertfordshire so am too far to physically help look for him so I am contacting the local media for her as she is too upset to do so herself. Can I PLEAD with you to put out an appeal for him. This is a link to a poster that has been made up for him.
http://www.doglost.co.uk/poster.php?dogId=38912
I'm sure that either she, or someone from the doglost organisation would speak to you but I know that you would make a massive difference if you could feature Ben's story as he is an exceptionally elderly and frail dog.
Thank you so much.


I will send as many like this as I can this morning. xx

Last edited: 2012-04-25 06:12:06 by BaileyP

2012-04-25 05:53 BaileyP

Hi Liz If you tell me the name of your local newspapers and radio station I will contact them for you today. I think we should try to get him mentioned asap. If they want to contact you is is ok for me to pass on your phone numbers?

I will also contact a national paper (eg Daily Mail) and see if we can get him in there. Im sure that he won't have gone far but you need to systematically go to every house and either knock on the door or put a leaflet through the door. He can probably go further than you imagine as he will be confused. I hope that you have other people up there helping you to look.

I'll text you in a little while to get the name of the papers and radio and get on to them asap.

Thinking of you - you are not alone. Everyone is rooting for dear Ben and you. xxx

2012-04-25 04:59 liz

Thankyou BailyP. I'm so grateful for eveyrone's support and kindness. I don't know where to start with the papers or radio. This is more painful than my divorce 2 years ago. I've not known pain like it ever. I haven't eaten for 3 days & cry until I make myself sick. I have this wrenching stomach pain and such despair at my loss. This wonderful site and people is such a blessing. xxx

2012-04-24 23:25 BaileyP

Have you contacted local radio, tv, newspapers? I'm sure that due to his amazing age his story would be covered?

2012-04-24 23:23 BaileyP

I wish I lived nearer so that I could help but I've been tweeting celebs tonight and have lots of retweets from people with thousands of followers eg Marc the tv vet who has tweeted some people he knows in the area too, Beverly Cuddy from Dogs Today magazine, Jodie Prenger etc so hopefully word will be spreading. Keep strong for your boy Liz - we are all with you spurring you on. Xx

2012-04-24 23:09 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz great Doninique has been in touch. :)

If anyone can help with the postering I've done word doc various size posters. Smaller ones are ideal for handing out and posting through doors. x

2012-04-24 22:03 liz

I am taking on board everyone's advice and I am going to follow it, I am going to go to the houses on Prescot Rd and Bank lane. Because of his disability his back paws curl up and it's painful for him on concrete so he's more likely to be in fields. I also keep watching out for him on a lead with someone. Thankyou for your kindness. Dominique too who rang me and is doing me posters and leaflets. xxx

2012-04-24 21:46 janni0706

Is anyone arranging a search? I live in St Helens and may be able to help

2012-04-24 21:38 NickyJ

I'm following this thread from afar, I wish I could do more to help.
Looking at Google map of the area he went missing, I can see a Fir Tree Animal Sanctuary across the fields - have you been there at all? Also, have you posted leaflets along Prescot Road & Bank Lane as these houses back onto the fields?
I'm sorry if these suggestions are repeating things you've already done.
I can imagine how you're feeling, but you have to stay strong and focused to find Ben. Nx

Last edited: 2012-04-24 21:39:41 by NickyJ

2012-04-24 18:27 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

LOL Majorjet...if I dont respond straight away to your texts...I just get another one...you have trained me well...

2012-04-24 17:40 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Thanks Jayne for the quick response in emailing other postcodes. :)

Liz we are all behind you, you have to be STRONG for BEN. I've updated the new photo/s and grouped together.

Thank you to everyone who is helping, Liz has been given all the contact numbers for kennels in the area and further afield. Halewood RSPCA are well aware of him now and that is where he SHOULD be taken if found and handed in. Local kennels have also been sent his details and photo. x

2012-04-24 17:24 AkitaTaz

Thanks Rubster you are a star xx

2012-04-24 15:58 Rubster

I've tweeted & also posted his doglost link on as many Liverpool facebook pages I can find. Stay safe Ben, you'll be found soon x

2012-04-24 15:55 liz

Hi everyone, thanks for t he comments, I have gone round putting notes through door, we had a search party with everyone yday and all rescue centres.

2012-04-24 15:53 liz

Frustrating, someone just said a dog was found matching Ben's description, on Sunday at 9.40 and gave me the kennels where he was at. I rang and they think it's the missing report, but I wouldn't say things like, dog, male, tail full, ears flat, collar red.

2012-04-24 15:07 AkitaTaz

Hi Liz have you tried knocking on a few doors along Saxon Green to see if anyone has taken him in or has seen him xx

2012-04-24 14:34 janni0706

Have you tried the rescue kennels in Spurriers lane Melling?

2012-04-24 14:16 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Hi Liz...probably someone has taken him in...with all the tweets that have gone out...over 100 I am sure we can locate Ben...so anyone reading this press the share button and tweet...tx

2012-04-24 13:59 liz

I live on Penda Drive, Kirkby and we went on Saxon Green just off Penda Drive and that is where he disappeared. It is a culdi sac and there are just fences to people's back gardens so there was nowhere for anyone to kidnap him unless they were hiding in bushes but there was no one about. I am not coping at all and I have to go to work later. I work evenings. I think someone may have him or he's lost or the worse, trapped and dying. He's old & weak and I am so worried. I knew I didn't have long with him with his parkinsons but I thought I would have had him all this year through summer and we have a planned trip to Devon in a pet friendly cottage. If anyone has him, please let me know. My heart is broken. I am almost suicidal.

2012-04-24 13:08 liz

Click on this link & it shows where I live and surrounding areas. There are two parks and I lost him on

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&rlz=1G1DSGJ_ENUK403&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&wrapid=tlif133526833401010&q=map+of+penda+drive+l33&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x487b186e63a4ceb3:0xf626192c75ba7d7e,Penda+Dr,+Liverpool+L33+4ES&gl=uk&ei=DJSWT8SqFYjS0QXj942dDg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CC0Q8gEwAA

2012-04-24 13:03 liz

Thank you for your kind messages. As you can imagine, I am distressed and can't think of anything else. I keep being sick. I keep crying hysterically. I've just posted 2 more photos of him with me.

2012-04-24 12:44 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Alerts sent out to helpers in L9,10,11,12,28,39. WA10,11.

2012-04-24 12:30 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Family have spoken to vet and they don't have anything in there now fitting Ben's description. Family also checked with Halewood RSPCA.

I've just spoken to Halewood and they did have one taken there from the vet but it is not Ben, it was CHIPPED. It does sound like the one the DW was referring to.

The search goes on for Ben. If anyone can help owner searching the area it would be gratefully appreciated. MANY THANKS to all who are looking out for Ben. x

2012-04-24 11:08 MojoPeanut

Got everything crossed this is Ben. I don't live far so could help with the search if needs be. Watching this page like a hawk today :) xx

2012-04-24 10:13 Unknown

Good luck - hope it is Ben xx

2012-04-24 10:02 BaileyP

I am PRAYING that this is Ben!! I live so far away from you but you are continually in my thoughts. Having an old blind dog myself I can only imagine what you are going through. Sending lots of (((((HUGS))))) to you and hoping that the news is good. Bridgetxxxx

2012-04-24 09:12 Meru

Fingers crossed that it's Ben xx

2012-04-24 08:20 AkitaTaz

Everything crossed that this is Ben, I worried about him all night, I can't imagine what you are going through. I will be cheking throughout the day to hopefully see him go into the blue xxx

2012-04-24 08:18 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Liz good luck with your interview, it has been a horrible few days for you. I did not want to ring you with it being so late but did try to contact the vet, have put Ben's details on their website page.

I am going to follow it up for you this morning, the DW has my details as well and he will try and find out more. x

2012-04-24 07:37 jobadger

Ohhh I hope so too...........

2012-04-24 07:17 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Fingers crossed.....

2012-04-24 03:24 liz

I tried ringing warden too but they are not open until 9. I will be in a half day interview today with my phone switched off, so I won't be able to call the vet or the warden until it finishes. However if smoeone could call my mum on her line, she is driving me there as I am too distraught to drive right now. Her number is 07941009119. His microchip number is 121609340A.

2012-04-24 03:16 liz

Thanks Jan, I got your text, but exhausted and was trying to get some sleep. I just woke up and started crying again. I've just seen your message below which is hopeful. I have found their number and rang it, but i is closed now. I take it they were open quite late last night. Thankyou jobadger, he is gorgeous. He's also very quiet & doesn't bark. So if he was trapped he wouldn't tell us. Jan what did the tweet say about Ben?

2012-04-23 23:37 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Had an alert from the Knowsley DW of a dog matching Ben in the local vet waiting to be picked up and taken to Halewood RSPCA. This is the same vet I did advise owners to contact. Would be fantastic if it was Ben. We will follow it up tomorrow.

Many thanks to Knowsley DW for the alert. x

2012-04-23 20:53 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Spoken at length to owner who is distraught and wants her boy home. Keep your chin up Liz there are a lot of people looking out for Ben. x

2012-04-23 20:49 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

I've added him to the following fb pages and with friends I know in the area, thank you to everyone who has started sharing greatly appreciated:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/362175273467/
DOGLOST NORTH WEST

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000892692484&ref=tn_tnmn
Majorjet DogLost

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002424742601
Rspca Liverpool

https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolDogRescue1990
Liverpool Dog Rescue 1990

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Official-Freshfields-Animal-Rescue-Page/285048157613
Freshfield Animal Rescue

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Animals-In-Need-Maxicare/296713837658
Animals In Need

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dogs-Trust-Merseyside/157460557624061
Merseyside Dogs Trust

https://www.facebook.com/southportlostandfoundpets
Southport Lost and Found Pets

https://www.facebook.com/warringtonanimalwelfare
Warrington Animal Welfare

https://www.facebook.com/pages/RSPCA-SAFE-HAVEN-Warrington-Halton-St-Helens/123707167104
R.S.P.C.A - "SAFE HAVEN" - Warrington, Halton & St Helens

https://www.facebook.com/groups/28352441684/
RSPCA Warrington, Halton + St Helens

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rspca-Warrington-Animal-Centre/288038307873096
Rspca Warrington Animal Centre

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Manchester-Cheshire-Dogs-Home/254357294191
Manchester & Cheshire Dogs' Home

https://www.facebook.com/RSPCAManchesterandsalford
R.S.P.C.A Manchester & Salford Branch

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003050523300
Microchipping Liverpool (Sarah)

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alder-Veterinary-Hospital/132860703427503
Alder Veterinary Hospital

https://www.facebook.com/groups/208507829188025/?ref=ts
Pets needing homes

https://www.facebook.com/groups/130071560450693/
Find these staffys warrington area

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Merseyside-Retired-Greyhound-Trust/132373430144001
Merseyside Retired Greyhound Trust

https://www.facebook.com/KirkbyMarket
Kirkby Market

https://www.facebook.com/groups/memoriesofkirkby/?notif_t=group_r2j_approved
MEMORIES OF KIRKBY

2012-04-23 19:54 jobadger

I hope this gorgeous lad is home soon - he's beautiful.

2012-04-23 19:33 DogLostRiverlady

Have seen a tweet bout Ben so am circulating.

2012-04-23 18:46 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Info below COPIED from other info box and details/photo updated for his poster:

He is deaf and has cataracts and stiff back legs from Parkinsons Disease. He was off the lead in the park round the corner from home. It was dark and 1am in the morning and he just vanished. I have searched surrounding areas for him but cannot find him.

2012-04-23 18:45 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Spoken to family who are all doing a great job in their search for Ben. They have had him 17 years and he was an adult so could be 19-20 years old now. Family have contacted the right people and are out now checking ditches in the area. Where he has gone missing from is not too far from his home. Ben was wearing a collar with ID but the telephone numbers is out of date. He is MICROCHIPPED and this was only checked last year.

They have visited Halewood RSPCA and there was a possible match but it was not Ben.

I've given some local advice and will email info/advice to owner and start sharing across facebook. Keeping everything crossed he has been taken in and he is back home soon. x

2012-04-23 18:01 DogLostMajorjet (Jan) - Area Co-ordinator - Liverpool/Merseyside, North West

Will try and contact family a.s.a.p. to offer help and advice. Ben is registered with the AW's his details on their website below:

Lost Dog
22 Apr 2012 Cross Breed
Location: Liverpool L33
Name: Ben
Gender: Male
Colour: Black
Markings: tan
Size: Medium
Our Ref: 265632

For further details call 0845 241 7253 (local rate)
to amend, email info@animalwardens.co.uk

2012-04-23 17:04 DogLostJayne - Founder Doglost.

Alerts sent out to helpers in L31,32,33,34.

2012-04-23 16:47 Admin

Sorry to see that BEN is missing.

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